Letter from PerfectionGirls

[DaddyzHome]

I just received this letter... I assume it went out to all PG affiliates.
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Hello All!

Welcome back from Vegas for those that we able to attend.

It was brought to our attention early this week that there is/was a glitch in the reporting feature in CCBills new affiliate admin. The glich involved rebills and the number of rebills our affiliate have or will be paid on.

Our program, from the day it opened has always been set on umlimited rebills by default and will remain that way until the end of time. We have checked nearly every affiliate id with multiple rebills. There is not one case of an affiliate not being paid on a subscription that has continued to bill beyond the first rebill.

If you have found you have not been paid past the first rebill on a subscription that has continued to bill, please contact ua nd we will pay you on missing rebill payouts. However, as mentioned above, we have yet to find any examples of this. Please provide verifiable proof for we have not found one situation where this is the case.

We will be spending several hours and days with ccbill in the upcoming weeks. Needless to say, the glitch in there system has caused us a great deal of grief. We will be changing to Epoch as our primary processor once this situation is fixed and we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates. Far more detailed and user friendly then the ccbill interface. Our new affiliate interface has been done for a month and we were planning on launching on the Feb 1st. You will find our new stat program much more detailed and accurate. More information will be coming very soon.

Now, as to any remarks made on message boards. If you are on affiliate and have an issue or a problem with our program. We have email, icq and phones. All of which have been made available to you. There are many ways to ask us question and get to the bottom of problems you may be experiencing. If you go to a message board first, before trying ot contact one of our staff we can only assume you have a personal agenda. If you really feel the need to post, at least post your contact info so we can get in touch. T

his is line #6 in our terms of service:

"We reserve the right to terminate the account of any webmaster who posts to message boards, emails or messages our other affiliates, or speaks negatively of us. We are not going to make everyone happy all of the time.. If you have a problem or issue with our program or any of our sites, please feel free to contact us. We understand miscommunications can and do happen, but we always try our best to satisfy any webmaster problems. Talk to us folks. communication is key."

We will infoce this. We dont want to of course, but we will. The lies and mis-information that was spread by one or two affiliates will not be tolerated. Stories of "fights" infront of the CCBill booths and people getting "beat up" are childish at best. The eledged "fight" was with friends of our program. Any conversations were done in private, off the show floor and handled in a friendly and professionl manner, there was never any "big blow up". All of us invloved did get a good laugh out of it of course, but lies are totally uncalled for. We know that this is only one or two of you. We spoke to all of our key affiliates in Las Vegas and ALL are extremly satisfied.

Anyways, we are back at the office and back to work. We had an amazing show and we are looking forward to the new year! If you have any questions, please follow the contact info in our program.

My icq 176384083
my email is [email protected]
my cell number is 734-718-3549

Best regards,

Jeff

[rooster]

ccbill said the glitch was only those that had 0


The only glitch with this cocksmocker is he is a theif.

[DaddyzHome]

We have checked nearly every affiliate id with multiple rebills. There is not one case of an affiliate not being paid on a subscription that has continued to bill beyond the first rebill.

This has already been shown by Rowan:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=217887

[DarkJedi]

[DaddyzHome]

We will be changing to Epoch as our primary processor once this situation is fixed and we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates.

No need for CCBill to stick up for them any longer then, huh?

[Peaches]

I sure hope that letter's not a cut and paste from the real thing - I'd hate to think someone actually sent that out with all those typos.

[paul1000]

(snip) ...we will spend several hours and days with ccbill ... (snip)

if it smells like bullshit ... looks like bullshit ... and tastes like bullshit, then ......


C'mon you little faggots ... We prolly do 5x the business with ccbill that you do, and we are never on the phone for "several hours and days" with them !

Go blow your smoke up somebody else's ass.

[bopha]

"we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates."


That's comforting.

[OneHungLo]

Originally posted by DaddyzHome


This has already been shown by Rowan:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=217887

Have any other affiliates from perfection cash (besides Rowan) shown that they were not paid on rebills?

[Meta Ridley]

Originally posted by DarkJedi

[Nasty]

Yea, I received one, what a fucking ass-hat

Originally posted by Peaches
I sure hope that letter's not a cut and paste from the real thing - I'd hate to think someone actually sent that out with all those typos.

They did. Never heard of spellcheck I guess.

[liquidmoe]

Spelling errors happen to the best of us but when its a blatant one on the first line, then that's a bit troubling.

[nuclei]

We will be changing to Epoch as our primary processor once this situation is fixed and we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates.

In other words, now that ccbill is showing affiliates who is fucking them, pg is switching to their own software that doesn't, but fast.

[Hammer]

I got that same letter and I must say I found it highly unprofessional. The explanation of the supposed snaffu with ccBill was OK, but the part where he threatened me if I say anything against them on the boards was ridiculous. And to send that warning/threat out to every one of their affiliates at the same time that you are attempting to apolgize/explain a problem? Jesus.

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by DaddyzHome
All of us invloved did get a good laugh out of it of course

Laughing all the way to the bank. You're a real class act.

[Atari]

Originally posted by DaddyzHome

There is not one case of an affiliate not being paid on a subscription that has continued to bill beyond the first rebill.

It was all a mistake?


So who has been paid for 2+ rebills?

[JSA Matt]

I like how ccbill came on here and tried to defend him with some bogus post and now he is pissing on them. Class act all the way.

[kmanrox]

you gotta be fuckin kidding me.... they actually say they can terminate your account if you squeal on them?

any lawyers out there, is that legal??

FUCK YOU PERFECTIONGIRLS... you're lucky you don't owe me any money...

[bopha]

Was this also part of the ccbill glitch?

"We pay up to 70% per signup and 70% of all subsequent re-bills. You are paid 50% up to your first 100 signups, then you go up to 55% until you reach 200 signups, in which you go up to 60% and after your 300th signup, you will go up to 70% (plus re-bills)."

Taken from
http://www.perfectioncash.com/terms.php


Notice this
http://www.bophadeeznutz.com/pg.gif


How much revenue was lost from partners who made bonus as per this companies website but not paid.

Didn't anyone else notice this?

[Why]

fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.

shit happens, get over it. lots of other programs fuck you in your asses almost daily, at least these guys take the time to explain stuff to thier affiliates, instead of just ignoring them all. which i seem to recall a number of programs doing when at a loss of words as of late.

he is offering to make it right and you asshats have to knock him, shit got fucked up, it was an error, he is offering to pay you up in full and you spit in his eye.

now who are the real class acts here? a bunch of mainly nameless retards on gfy with nothing to show for themselfs in this biz? or knocking a man who is trying to fix a problem that really isnt his fault to begin with and offering to make it right by any means necessary.

most of the people in here doing the bashing are nameless fucktards just talking shit about something they dont know shit about aside from what they hear on GFY which for the most part is heresay anyways. and just jumping on the bandwagon to talk shit about someone to try and fit it.

[Holly]

Originally posted by Peaches
I sure hope that letter's not a cut and paste from the real thing - I'd hate to think someone actually sent that out with all those typos.

Same damn thing I was thinking. It amazes me. It really does. Especially in an email that is obviously very important to the future of his business.

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.

shit happens, get over it. lots of other programs fuck you in your asses almost daily, at least these guys take the time to explain stuff to thier affiliates, instead of just ignoring them all. which i seem to recall a number of programs doing when at a loss of words as of late.

he is offering to make it right and you asshats have to knock him, shit got fucked up, it was an error, he is offering to pay you up in full and you spit in his eye.

now who are the real class acts here? a bunch of mainly nameless retards on gfy with nothing to show for themselfs in this biz? or knocking a man who is trying to fix a problem that really isnt his fault to begin with and offering to make it right by any means necessary.

most of the people in here doing the bashing are nameless fucktards just talking shit about something they dont know shit about aside from what they hear on GFY which for the most part is heresay anyways. and just jumping on the bandwagon to talk shit about someone to try and fit it.

Not everyone here has to cheat their way to the top. Ask your friend to pay his designers.

[Why]

Originally posted by kmanrox
you gotta be fuckin kidding me.... they actually say they can terminate your account if you squeal on them?

any lawyers out there, is that legal??

FUCK YOU PERFECTIONGIRLS... you're lucky you don't owe me any money...

thats not what it says at all. dont be a retard.

[Why]

Originally posted by JSA Matt


Not everyone here has to cheat their way to the top. Ask your friend to pay his designers.

who is to say this error was purposeful? get off your horse, im sure fucked up shit has happened on your boat and was quickly and quietly swept under the rug.

i dont know what the deal is with the designer, so ill stay out of that one.

[Rich]

Of coarse he's switching processors and/or switching to his own stats syste, he can't shave with ccbill anymore! Like he's going to just forget about all that extra income. Someone should've done the world a favor and cut this guy's balls off when he promoted underage girls.

[seven]

I did 1:30,185 with 'em so I for one ain't worried about my account being terminated Actually need to remove the traffic leaks I still have to 'em.

[bopha]

Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.

Really? Why don't you ask your friend why they say the pay bonus to webmasters but failed to put those bonuses in the ccbill partner admin.



According to the pg site "sales from 100 - 200 would equal an extra 100 dollars on top of normal payout.

Sales 200-300 an extra 200 dollars on top of normal payout.

After 300 sales at 70 percent your payout should be 13.96 per sale.

That adds up don't you think?

That needs to be set up in the CCbill admin or no bonuses would be paid out.

The fact that you are a friend, might be blinding you to the fact that this program does not deliver what it promises it's affiliates. Why does this make people who find this unethical the asshat?

[BradShaw]

Jeff should just retire from this biz. All you have is your reputation, and it appears his is a joke at this point. Funny how CCBILL backed him, now he says he is moving to Epoch.

[BradShaw]

Jeff needs a PR guy bad. That letter was full of grammar and spelling errors. Like anyone is going to trust this guy running his own software.

[TheSenator]

Well, I told all my webmaster friends and I also told them to tell their other wemaster friends....and to put them on our special list of great sponsors that bullshit and blow smoke up your ass....

[foolio]

We will be changing to Epoch as our primary processor once this situation is fixed and we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates. Far more detailed and user friendly then the ccbill interface. [/B]

HAHHAHAHAHA

So CCBILL bent over and took a MAJOR assfucking for nothing then? Wow, sucks to be ccbill right bout now.

This can be looked at a few different ways... I think the correct way to look at it is "We are going to use a program that will not let you see that we are assfucking you and not even giving you a napkin to wipe our cum from your ass"

PG has no class, they do not pay designers, they fuck over people promoting them, and they do not even care enough to do a fucking spell check. Plus they get a major company to lie for them... then they walk away from them.... wow, just wow.

So why are people still promoting them?

[jennym]

Originally posted by Why
thats not what it says at all. dont be a retard.

line #6 in our terms of service:

"We reserve the right to terminate the account of any webmaster who posts to message boards, emails or messages our other affiliates, or speaks negatively of us.
We will infoce this.

So, what does this mean?

[TheJimmy]

quote:We will be changing to Epoch as our primary processor once this situation is fixed and we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates.

Originally posted by nuclei


In other words, now that ccbill is showing affiliates who is fucking them, pg is switching to their own software that doesn't, but fast.

glad I wasn't the only one that read it that way....very amusing LOL...

[RockDaddy]

line #6 in our terms of service:

"We reserve the right to terminate the account of any webmaster who posts to message boards, emails or messages our other affiliates, or speaks negatively of us.
We will infoce this.

So, what does this mean?

It means they can "fire" you at any time, just like you can "quit" at any time. No one really needs a reason to quit doing business with the other person.

They would still have to pay you though.

[Atari]

strange thread

[RockDaddy]

glad I wasn't the only one that read it that way....very amusing LOL...

Yeah, that is the very worst decision any sponsor that is questionable right now could make. At least now with all the cards on the table, people might still choose to promote them as long as they can closely watch what is going on.

[bopha]

Originally posted by jennym



line #6 in our terms of service:

"We reserve the right to terminate the account of any webmaster who posts to message boards, emails or messages our other affiliates, or speaks negatively of us.
We will infoce this.

So, what does this mean?

I think "infoce" means take your moeney

[jennym]

Originally posted by RockDaddy

It means they can "fire" you at any time, just like you can "quit" at any time. No one really needs a reason to quit doing business with the other person.

They would still have to pay you though.

I know what it means...I was simply asking Why the question in regard to this post

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Originally posted by kmanrox
you gotta be fuckin kidding me.... they actually say they can terminate your account if you squeal on them?

any lawyers out there, is that legal??

FUCK YOU PERFECTIONGIRLS... you're lucky you don't owe me any money...
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Originally posted by Why
thats not what it says at all. dont be a retard.
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He said that is not what it meant, so I want his interpetation of it. As for all the other drama in this thread, I am uninterested.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.

I'm not even going to read your post, from that statement I know it's all bullshit.

[Why]

Originally posted by bopha


Really? Why don't you ask your friend why they say the pay bonus to webmasters but failed to put those bonuses in the ccbill partner admin.



According to the pg site "sales from 100 - 200 would equal an extra 100 dollars on top of normal payout.

Sales 200-300 an extra 200 dollars on top of normal payout.

After 300 sales at 70 percent your payout should be 13.96 per sale.

That adds up don't you think?

That needs to be set up in the CCbill admin or no bonuses would be paid out.

The fact that you are a friend, might be blinding you to the fact that this program does not deliver what it promises it's affiliates. Why does this make people who find this unethical the asshat?

this screenshot is entirely too limited to get bent out of shape about. it doesnt show how many sales this affiliate has sent yet. if they are under 100 sales, they dont have any bonuses yet. maybe jeff plans to set these manually? i dont really know the ccbill admin all that well. but i see many explanations for this screenshot.

what the fuck is so unethical. a webmaster program CANT fuck with ccbills stats, if they were missing rebills that contained a 0, it sounds like a major error on some other parties hands.

realize there is more going on then you see, or you get through your news source(GFY). just STFU and calm down, dont jump on people. freak out cause something seems amiss, but you really dont know the whole story, just pissed cause maybe you lost a couple rebills. which he has already offered to pay back to anyone that can show they are owed. so i see no problem.

[kmanrox]

Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.

[Why]

Originally posted by jennym


I know what it means...I was simply asking Why the question in regard to this post

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Originally posted by kmanrox
you gotta be fuckin kidding me.... they actually say they can terminate your account if you squeal on them?

any lawyers out there, is that legal??

FUCK YOU PERFECTIONGIRLS... you're lucky you don't owe me any money...
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Originally posted by Why
thats not what it says at all. dont be a retard.
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He said that is not what it meant, so I want his interpetation of it. As for all the other drama in this thread, I am uninterested.

every program will cancel your account if you go around bashing them on boards. sure it covers squealing, but it covers a whole lot more then that. every program under the sun has a clause saying they can cancel you for any reason at any time. its the same thing. they are just spelling it out abit more.

[BVF]

Originally posted by Why
this screenshot is entirely too limited to get bent out of shape about. it doesnt show how many sales this affiliate has sent yet. if they are under 100 sales, they dont have any bonuses yet. maybe jeff plans to set these manually? i dont really know the ccbill admin all that well. but i see many explanations for this screenshot.

You admit that you don't know the ccbill admin but then you come with that bullshit beforehand? If there were bonuses, they would be explained in the "BONUS" column! If there are NO bonuses then it would say NO BONUSES like it does in that column.

Yeah you can do it manually in a way but how in the hell are you going to track all of those sales manually and know when to give them a bonus? You can't do it.

You remind me of a mass murderer's mother who will ignore the obvious because she still believes that she has a good little boy for a son.

[Why]

Originally posted by kmanrox

im sure there are many that have a mouthful to say about your sterling reputation kman.

[seven]

Originally posted by Why
this screenshot is entirely too limited to get bent out of shape about. it doesnt show how many sales this affiliate has sent yet. if they are under 100 sales, they dont have any bonuses yet. maybe jeff plans to set these manually? i dont really know the ccbill admin all that well. but i see many explanations for this screenshot.

Do you have ANY idea what you are babbling about? Just read the title on that screenshot and you may have just "one" explanation not "many" Someone didnot setup any bonuses for their proggy.

[bopha]

Originally posted by Why
i dont really know the ccbill admin all that well. .

That's right. You don't know the ccbill admin. But there are hundreds of webmasters who do and you are wrong in your
thoughts.

You have to set the bonuses or they don't get paid out.
And if you don't have 100 sales, the bonuses will still be TURNED ON and showing.

We know the webmasters is fucking with his program. It's his pregogative to not deliver what he says in his ToS.

It's the publics perogative to not use them anymore too.

If you are going to cheat webmasters, don't use a program that everyone else uses. But then I guess with the recent mass emailing that lesson was learned.

You are right, again.. You don't know the webmaster admin.

[foolio]

Hey Why -- if PG is so good and all that can you tell us why he does not pay his designers?

I am sure the people he needs to pay would love to know the reason why they have not got paid.

[Why]

Originally posted by BVF


You admit that you don't know the ccbill admin but then you come with that bullshit beforehand? If there were bonuses, they would be explained in the "BONUS" column! If there are NO bonuses then it would say NO BONUSES like it does in that column.

Yeah you can do it manually in a way but how in the hell are you going to track all of those sales manually and know when to give them a bonus? You can't do it.

You remind me of a mass murderer's mother who will ignore the obvious because she still believes that she has a good little boy for a son.

iv sent to a number of programs what have sliding partnership payouts, and i dont recall ever seeing shit in the bonuses column.

i dunno about yall but i trust the people i do business with. if i find something askew i go to them and ask them about it. i get it fixed. i dont run around spouting... the sky is falling, bullshit.

keeping track of how many joins your getting and where they are coming from is called good business practice, its very easy to do BVF. i get many bonuses that arent shown in stats. paying attention to your traffic and who is sending it is pretty important in this area.

[seven]

Originally posted by Why
every program will cancel your account if you go around bashing them on boards. sure it covers squealing, but it covers a whole lot more then that. every program under the sun has a clause saying they can cancel you for any reason at any time. its the same thing. they are just spelling it out abit more.

Let me guess.. you are a newbie