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[xxxpit]

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[Westin]

my only comment is why did the basterd get to live for 6 years after the bombing ???

You gotta love america's justic system

Westin

[ldinternet]

Two litres of mint chocolate ice cream at 6am in the morning? What the fuck?

Glad that the fucker is gone.

[Slick]

Yep, I'm glad to see that asshole die. Now we don't have to spend anymore money on housing and feeding that prick. I wonder if he's having fun in hell.

[Slick]

WOW, I just saw on the news that they said that he's to be cremated and have his ashes dumped at a secret location.

They said that he wanted his ashed spread over the MEMORIAL, that'd take a lot of balls to ask for something like that. Talk about about trying to add insult to injury.

[Much0S]

Death Penalty is one of the most stupid sentences ever, even for people like McVeigh. We are not God, we cannot decide who lives or dies.

Furthermore some ppl seem to actually think that the Death Sentence is actually cheaper than a live long jail sentence. Fact is that it's about 10 times more expensive.

And for your information: the most horrible thing of death sentence is that there is a really high rate of INNOCENT ppl getting killed.

Now think on that for a second.

[JeanClaude VanDamme]

Yeah I fuck the united States of America !
I fuck G.W Bush
Abolish the death penalty fucking bastards !

[wiZd0m]

Abolish the death penalty fucking bastards ![/B]

Huh, no, that makes them retards, not bastards

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[Slick]

You guys don't realize what the fuck that guy did. Why I should I pay for his ass to sit in prison for the rest of his life, at my expense. Sure, it might cost a bit to kill him, but why should he get to live after he killed all of those people and hurt many others in such a SENSLESS act.

I know that if my wife or one of my kids were in there, I would've killed him myself. He doesn't deserve to live, he took other lives. And don't forget, he actually ASKED for the death penalty at first, so he got it. He's actually getting off easy, he doesn't have to think about it anymore, while the 1000's of family members have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

I think in cases like this, the death penalty was served right.


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[boneprone]

Wow, i cant believe they did it already..
I thought it was for Monday morning, and I guess monday morning is passed!

It should bring closure to the families and bring closure for people like us who have been tired of seeing his rat face all over the news for the past couple years..

Im glad we can finally end the final chapter of this horror story.

[Much0S]

@boneprone:

can you? You think such an operation was planned by one man? A man like that had to be perfect, and being perfect doesn't include getting caught. Ha! Believing McVeigh to be the only one behind this shit is believing that what's-the-guy's-name-again was the only one behind the JFK assassination

BTW: Watch out, echelon is listening

[Slick]

Me and Boneprone are actually planning on blowing up the "Amateur Pages Building". Shhhhhh.... don't tell anyone, he he.

Well, maybe we should rethink things because then we wouldn't get paid, he he.

Well, then we're gonna blow up the "Brad Shaw Building", no one would miss him because he doesn't pay anybody anyways, ha ha ha.

I personally think that there had to be a few more people involved than just Tim, BUT he was the main mind behind it and he was stupid enough to get caught, he he.

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[Much0S]

No main minds ever get caught unless they want to.

Think war situations: who are the last to get caught? Generals. Why? Because they are most important: main minds.

Don't ask me why the fuck somebody should blow up a building with CHILDREN for God's sake, but that's beside my point. What I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't have a death sentance. Because it's stupid. Because it's inhumane. And because we are not God.

[boneprone]

didnt they catch someone else that was involved? I kinda remember another shorter guy with glasses being in cuffs also? Its been sooo long I cant remember, but I thought theyu arrested another person involved as well?

[boneprone]

Yeah, Terry Nichols! Thats the guy.. They did catch 2 of em.. I think it is possible for 2 guys to do this.

[boneprone]

Yeah, Terry Nichols! Thats the guy.. They did catch 2 of em.. I think it is possible for 2 guys to do this.

[Slick]

I don't care how inhumane it sounds for us to kill someone. Sure, you say that we shouldn't play God, but he sure the fuck did when he blew that building up, so if he wants to play the game of being God, then let us have our turn.

We have to get out a message on this that you can't be doing that kind of shit, it's all about example and like I said in my other post, HE ASKED FOR THE DEATH PENALTY, so give him what he wanted. If he changed his mind, oh well, there's no turning back. He got the easy way out by getting put to death and when they put him to death, he had no remorse, he didn't say that he was sorry or anything, he just had a blank stare on his face, so you know that he's rotten to the core.

You call it inhumane how we put a killer to death like that. The thing is that there were others involved, I'm sure, but if he didn't have the balls to come out and rat them out, then let his ass die.

[Much0S]

As I said before: it's out of the question if he did it or not, i don't know the facts nor do I want to.

I think it's wrong to kill a human being. For ANY reason.

I notice in your posts, Slick:
- He asked for Death Penalty
... -> We gave it to him (because it was our turn to play God)
... ... -> He got the easy way out.

Now if he got the easy way out, why did we kill him?

[Lensman]

Does this mean that his ends the "Katie Couric live from OK City" today show broadcasts.

[Minte]

Hello, For my first post here I will add my 2 cents.
Collateral damage..this is how he referred to the children that he slaughtered.He was a militant who declared war on the US and he lost.
As far as some "great conspiracy"... Maybe some of you remember back to the late 60's when The Armstrong brothers used the same type of bomb to destroy the math research building at the university of wisconsin. They bought all the supplies at local farm stores and rented a van,parked it in front and ran like hell.Didn't require some genius to plan it.

[Much0S]

And don't you think the only one who should play God is God himself?

In the end, killing is killing, what makes those who killed him better than himself? The numbers? Just because he killed more he is worse?

In all religions out there there is talk of punishment. In NO religion there is the death penalty. So if you want to act in accordance to God, punish him on a religious matter.

If you just want to be humane and get your avenge, kill the guy.

This whole McVeigh thing was an excuse for the US to keep persuing the death penalty.... (this makes ppl forget of all those cases that innocent ppl get killed and ppl got too high sentences because of shit lawyers and stuff)

Ppl are funny... they usually only think thaughts that are poured in their minds... a lot like sheep.

[Steve]

I hope Satan rams pineapples up his ass for all Eternity in Hell.

Fucking baby-killer.

[Much0S]

Wrong: all items that can be used in a bomb are on the FBI's watch list. You can't just go in and buy Sulphur.

And no I don't remember the 60's, I wasn't created yet

[Much0S]

Like this woman I see on TV, who has been yelling "Kill him, justice for us, Kill him" for years, now comes up and says "He got the easy way off, we should have done something more than kill him".

WTF?

What did you like to do? Kill him, then kill him again? Cut him up in pieces?

Is it really the answer of the world "Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth"?

Should the Palestinians be slaughtered?

Just questions Little of topic

[Much0S]

If Satan wanted him so badly, Steve, he would have come for him himself.

[ldinternet]

What I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't have a death sentance. Because it's stupid. Because it's inhumane.

So McVeigh was executed, big fucking deal.

Who's next?

[Much0S]

Who's next? Obviously the guy that killed McVeigh - he is a killer too now, and should be punished.

And also the Guy who sentenced McVeigh to death penalty; he's a partner in crime.

The guy who invented death penalty for having a criminal gang.

McVeigh's attorney for being too reluctant.

[Steve]

Muchos,
Satan comes for the evil about as often as Jesus has dinner at my house.

There are very good people, like you and I, who can be productive members of society. Then, there are monsters out there who prey upon the rest of society. For these people I have no tolerance or mercy. I do not want to hear of extenuating circumstanes, and I don't give a fuck about their human rights. I do not consider baby killers to be human beings. They are animals and should be put down.

Did you know that the state of California puts more money into the penal system than the school system? Is this a good investment? Life sentences, 3 strikes your out, these are crippling the American government. My kids don't get new math books because some fucking rapist needs a new pair of prison shoes?

I don't give a fuck about trying to get prisoners to fit back into society. They forfeited their rights to interact with society when they preyed upon it while running free.

[Slick]

Much0S, If someone killed your wife, children, or family member, I'm sure that you'd be the first person in line to want that bastard dead.

Now, I don't have any relatives that were in that bombing, but I can see the hurt in the people that did lose loved ones and I'm sure that it hurts like hell to feel like that. I could understand losing a loved one over an accident, but for some prick that thought did it because he hates the goverment, that'd be hard for me to stomache.

It's an eye for an eye. If you don't wanna die, then don't try to take other people's lives. He knew damn well that what he did was gonna kill a bunch of people, but he didn't care, so why should we care if someone kills him ??? FUCK, this guy wanted his ashes scattered over the fucking memorial for the bombing, talk about no fucking remorse for the ones killed.

Steve, I think that you've been watching too much "Little Nicky", ha ha ha. That was funny with Hitler. At 4 o'clock every day, a big pineapple up the ass, ha ha ha.

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[Much0S]

Did you know that the state of California puts more money into the penal system than the school system? Is this a good investment? Life sentences, 3 strikes your out, these are crippling the American government. My kids don't get new math books because some fucking rapist needs a new pair of prison shoes?

Not true, being capitalists all the way prisons actually make profit these days... How? By letting the ppl work for less money an hour than a mexican... Then when they get their $800 paycheck at the end of the month they've to pay $600 of it for the costs being made for them.

The fact that there doesn't go enough money for your child's school is a simple extension of the capitalist system you are running. If you want a nice society, where ppl take the time to enjoy their lives, where you don't have to worry about your dinner when you're old or sick, where your children get propper education, then choose for a socialist system. That ofcourse means that taxes have to go up by 15%, and that's something that you guys don't want... You can't have everything here, either good schools and safe society or tax cuts. You choose what's more important to you.

As for you not giving a fuck about rehabitation of prisinors: you really should. Because if prisinors for minor crimes don't get back in the society they will become monsters.

Who invented the ghetto's anyways? Do you think that's fair?

Probably capitalism will end it's cycle within 30 years from now, just like communism did 10 years ago, socialism will pick up probably for quite some time. Why? Because neither extremes (capitalism, communism) are the right way to go, on one hand you want to get more money if you work more, on the other hand you'd rather have your children go to school and have a good healthcare system instead of a meaningless 10% tax cut.

Why is it you think all but 1 or 2 mass killers are from the US?

[Much0S]

And don't even get me started on the legalised gun control you've there... having ppl shot each 2 seconds... Jezus it's been a while since the Wild West ended you know... it's way over, just like your way of choosing president is outdated.

[boneprone]

tell me what are your views on guns?

[Much0S]

everyone who thinks that he/she needs them can shuffle their gun up their asses and pull the trigger. You must be a fucking idiot if you truely think guns make a safer society.

Even your fucking police force uses overly excessive amounts of violence.... Tsjeeez mark my words, 30 more years, MAX

(would be a pitty though, most stupid ppl who sign up on CJ's like mine are from US )

[Steve]

Slick,
got the All-Day-Ticket on Direct TV. That was a funny movie.

Muchos,
Ghetto just means cheap housing to me. My family made it out of the ghetto. So did countelss others. America is built on immigration, and over the past 100 years the ghetto has been made up of many different nationalities. Not just blacks.
Now, the ghetto's I worked in in Newark and NY were complete shitholes. Filled with lawless scumbags terrorising the other residents. I've seen shoot outs, robberies, turf wars, junkies, hookers, and any other freaky fucked up shit you can think of. I've also worked with guys who got themselves, and their families out of the ghetto. It's not impossible, if you work hard and try. Nobody gives you a break in life, you have to make your own.

I won't go into socialism vs capitalism vs communism. Politics is a topic, along with religion, that is best left alone.

I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up alongside some real scumbags. I know people who have gone to prison, who have bounced in and out. Former friends, brothers of my friends, etc. Just from going from my own life, I can say these assholes never got their shit together, and just continued to hurt people. First time offender? You mean first time the loser got his dumb ass busted. Don't be nieve. These aren't choir boys, just because they got busted for a non-violent crime. The rap sheet doesn't tell the whole story.

[Much0S]

What I was trying to say steve was 2 things:
- They got in prison because they got no other chance than doing wrong things!

There aren't that much ppl in the world being truely evil, most ppl just become bad because of a bad childhood...

The fact that you made it out the ghetto makes you stronger than the rest, but it doesn't mean that just because you made it out, everyone can...

In essence I believe all children are innocent and should get equal chances to grow up, and choose their own ways.

Children in ghetto's do not get equal chances at all and are doomed to end in jail or end dead.

Ofcourse there are exceptions, like yourself.

The best countries in the world now are the Scandinavian countries, like sweden, who have an excellent system where everybody is happy.

The problem with America, especially with Republican America, is that there is an assumption that everyone has equal rights and chances and oppurtunities therefor decreasing tax cuts is better for everyone.

In every day life we know it's not true.

For instance: what's the average work week for an average american?

[Much0S]

It's 38 hours here for a full time job... plenty of time to spend with your kids and stuff, I doubt strongly that you've simulair figures in the US.

BTW: here = Netherlands.

[Sovjetz]

finnaly somebody i can talk to!

death sentence solves NOTHING!
it just keeps the whole circle of killing going. I think it is a sign of weakness if a country has to get rid of his problems this way. Human civilisation has been way past the point in which equal revenge is normal. The people who judge these terrible crimes should be smarter than these people, not lowering their standards to equal the standards of criminals and terrorist. A human should be wiser!

why always the Dutch ?

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[Slick]

Sovjetz, you call it a "Circle Of Killing", well Tim killed, so we killed him, circle ended, he he he.

The thing is that the death penalty doesn't start it, it ends it. If someone doesn't start something in the first place by killing someone, then there wouldn't be a need for the death penalty.



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[Warphead]

To be honest, I don't like that McVeigh was executed. I'm not crying about it, but he got off too easy in my book.

He killed over a hundred people, until we figure out a way to kill him a hundred times that's not justice.

I'm against the death penalty becuase it's too much like a mercy killing. I think spending the rest of your life in prison with no chance of ever leaving is better punishment. I mean his punishment's over, but the families of his victims are still suffering.

But like many of you said, it's not like the world would be a better place if he were still in it. I just think a lifetime of unhappiness is more fitting then a few minutes of dying.

[boneprone]

It does seem wrong, but its easy to say not having a relative in the building when it got bombed.

Personally Im aginst the death sentance, but for some reason this didnt bother me at all, and in a sence I can actually understand why and how it is justified.

[Much0S]

Sovjetz: It's not that easy: I just live in the Netherlands

I want to mind ppl is that penalties are not here to get rid of bad people or to end suffering... whoever thinks that is a fool.

The primary reason for penalty was, and should be, punishing someone, so that he knows he has done a crime, and accepts that he needs to change his/her behavior in order to get back into society.

Anybody who thinks otherwise may well do so, but in my eyes, the whole american justice system is proof that those hardline ideas planly don't work.

Just an example: ppl in New York even may not have a beer on the street and it's still a mess. Here in the netherlands we blow weed and still it's not a mess... something to think about?

[xxxpit]

Hmmm...
~~~~VeRy Interesting....

Stayed up after work this morning...
To see McVeigh get what he deserved...

Was reading my fav board...
GFy....

decided to post his destruction...
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Went bed ..
Woke up!!
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WholEy Shit....

Keepm Cummimg!!!

~Xpit

[aprilkorova]

I am 100% behind the death penalty. But, only one meted out from a perfect, fair, infallible justice system. Since I don't believe that such a thing exists here, or anywhere...I find myself on the fence.

If guilt is as obvious as it is in the McVeigh/Nichols case and the damage so severe, I support it. But, putting an innocent man or woman behind bars for life is a horrific mistake, let alone killing them, so it is always best to err on the side of caution.

The whole point of capital punishment is suppose to be about protecting the community from this person forever, not revenge. I catch myself getting so angry about some crimes that I want them to fry even if I don't think they may do it again. That's wrong.

So, when it comes to the McVeighs, the Gacys, the Dahmers of the world...fry 'em. You never know in the future whether an appeal will let them off or laws change or they just simply think he/she is re-habilitated. I would rather know for sure they will never hurt anyone again.

Oh...and don't get me started on what I think they should do to pedophiles lol.

[[Labret]]

Shut up and get back to making gallery pages jerkoffs.

If your not from this country, shut your fucking hole, your opinion doesnt matter. Get back in your hut before we carpet bomb your village.

If you are from this country, shut your fucking hole, your opinion doesn't matter.

[Much0S]

Always glad to hear La Brat's well argumented and well thought opinions.

Are you republican by any chance?

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Much0S:
Always glad to hear La Brat's well argumented and well thought opinions.

Are you republican by any chance?

No.

I have an idea. Why dont you shut the fuck up or next time I am in town I get Ivo and Edwin and we come over and shove your clogs up your ass?

[Much0S]

At least you can get something up then LOL.

And according to edwin himself (who called me last week) there is no problem at all between us La Brat. Get your story straight.

[CDSmith]

Muchos --

Thats some Goddammed fine cheese you people make. Keep up the gouda work


My view, for what it's worth.... there are a few people in this world that don't have a right to be here. They are not human, and not humane in any way. Names like Dahmer, Gasey, Paul Bernardo, Ted Bundy, David Burkowitz, pretty much every sicko listed here: http://www.crimelibrary.com/serialkillers.htm and yes, Tim McVeigh. I have no doubt whatsoever that, if we tried to rehabilitate most of these monsters, they would kill again. Don't bother arguing with me, because one person here (April Kournikova ) talked about "erring on the side of caution"... and killing off these fucking whackos is doing exactly that -- taking away any chance of them killing another person, possibly someone you know even. Your sweet niece? Your little sister? Your dad? It's not only punishment folks, it's also about protection, and protecting society from further harm from these fuckups. I applaud the few states that still fry these mindless headholes like Mcveigh. Shit, let me pull the switch (or push the plunger or whatever, fuck, let me step on his throat). Am I violent by nature? Absolutely not, but I am passionate about justice and protection.

Gun control -- Ya, take all the guns away from private citizens and have only criminals running around armed...ya, that'll solve everything. Sure. I think that crooks would think twice if everyone carried a gun actually. Would you try and rob me if you suspected that I might be packin a glock? Doubtful. Gun control won't work, and it won't last.
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[tha_timinator]

Christ, f*ckin' Americans, I just cannot believe you guys. Sometimes you're just like animals! Listen to yourself: "Haha, kill that guy, cool! He must die, he deserves it!" You seem happy that he is dead! Are you really so f*ckin' primitive over there or is it just me??

Anyway, like people who live in a 'higher' environment like Much0S etc. already mentioned; dead sentence does not solve a damn thing! It's nothing but a prehistoric primitive 'do-first-think-later' reason why all you guys like Tim to be dead, if you would take the effort to think about it for only 1 sec. you would see the beastiality of it. I just think such a guy needs to be 'psychologically cured' and if that's not possible (coz he cannot be cured, like Tim) give him the worst penalty you can think of. Now what's worse for him; have a few years of fear and die and that's it or spend his whole goddamn life in prison, and him knowing that?!!? To me it's pretty obvious that the last one is much worse for him! Plus if you do that you can let him work for free and in that way the guy is even in use of society; he makes money for it!

Well, enough flaming for now, I will probably never get it... I think it's just a matter of the age of the civilisation, which is centuries larger over here in Europe. Obviously these centuries are needed... So that would mean it will take another let's say 400 years until the US will be at the same level of civilisation as at which europe is nowadays... so that will mean another 400 years of useless, beastious state killing...

Just hope it will be earlier...

Tim aka Tha Timinator.

[KC]

tha_timinator -

You're right, we're such beasts... The next time some crazy fucker kills 168 innocent people including several children. I'd happily opt to send him your way... you go ahead and put him up in your house and teach him about how what he's done is wrong.

If you have children, I'm sure he'd make a great playmate..

The guy killed 168 people feels no remorse whatsoever... in fact, he mentioned that he didn't know about the day care facility in the building he simply called it collateral damage.

I don't necessarily think killing him by lethal injection is the best answer.. I'd probably rather have the fucker put into a small space capsule and spend the money that we would have spent keeping his ass alive in prison, to shoot his sick ass towards the sun.. let's help the bastard adjust to hell!

Just my 2 cents

-KC

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