TGP experts and 2257 - GoFuckYourself.com

MrIzzz · 08-20-2004, 04:24 PM

someone please sum up and give me the cliff-notes of the effects of 2257 on thumb and text TGPs come august 24th.

i am preparing all my sites now and have an idea of whats going on but i need specific detail.

what will make a TGP compliant to 2257?

if you dont wanna answer here then post an url for direct information so that i can read it when i come back from drinking tonight

the Shemp · 08-20-2004, 04:45 PM

just do what the Hun does without the beasty galleries and you should be okay...

.:St Ides:. · 08-20-2004, 04:49 PM

hy777 · 08-20-2004, 04:58 PM

Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml

clickhappy · 08-20-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by hy777
Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPisfullycompliantwiththelawsoftheuniverse.ht ml

i actually clicked that

hy777 · 08-20-2004, 05:02 PM

good boy.

MrIzzz · 08-20-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by hy777
Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml

lmfaooooooooooo

you got me

MrIzzz · 08-20-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
just do what the Hun does without the beasty galleries and you should be okay...

thats what my plan is right now. i've been getting descriptions for all of my FHGs and galleries so that i can make the switch over easier.

i'm still interested in knowing how to make a thumb TGP fully compliant. will i need to gather documentation on every gallery cropped? will cropping just faces and NN suffice?

enter » · 08-20-2004, 05:13 PM

I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.

MrIzzz · 08-20-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by enter »
I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.

thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?

enter » · 08-20-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by MrIzzz
thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?

I don't take submissions so I can't help ya there. 100% sponsor hosted galls.

the Shemp · 08-20-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by MrIzzz
thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?

Izz, as a minimum i would use only softcore images on a thumb preview TGP..thats not legal advice..just my advice...

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 05:40 PM

Put your domains on a friends name wich lives outside the States done.

The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people

it has nothing to do with the location of your server.

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
Put your domains on a friends name wich lives outside the States done.

The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people

it has nothing to do with the location of your server.

I heard otherways NO???

Reak · 08-20-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice

The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people

USA people who submit galleries to the hun?

Reak · 08-20-2004, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense
I heard otherways NO???

fix your sig.

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
fix your sig.

is it too big?

jonesy · 08-20-2004, 05:56 PM

aaronm has his finger on the pulse of the new 2257 shiznit. hit him up.

if your site promtes porn youll need docs for every model featured/shown on your site, wether theyre your pics or not. that goes for banners ads ect.

thats pretyy much the gist of it

Reak · 08-20-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense
is it too big?

link wasnt working

crockett · 08-20-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by enter »
I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.

that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move

From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.

Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade

203838 or let me know your ICQ

jonesy · 08-20-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice

it has nothing to do with the location of your server.

yes it does.

read it

2257 law

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
USA people who submit galleries to the hun?

that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
link wasnt working

TX, i think its working now!

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People

I'm from holland btw

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by jonesy
yes it does.

read it

2257 law

If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesnt matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesnt change anything.

you still go to jail with your kiddie porn

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense
TX, i think its working now!

No it isnt

http://webmasters.adult.com/

This is the correct link.

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
I'm from holland btw

Same goes up for here, long live America

crockett · 08-20-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesn't matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesn't change anything.

you still go to jail with your kiddie porn

well if your going to promote US sponsor it's probably going to affect you.. btw I believe the Hun hosts in the US..

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People

yeah but it matter where ur SERVER IS!!!! IF its in the US u gotta comply! thats it!

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
Same goes up for here, long live America

What if my host is in USA?

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
well if your going to promote US sponsor it's probably going to affect you.. btw I believe the Hun hosts in the US..

No the hun host his site at home.

crockett · 08-20-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
No the hun host his site at home.

really I heard it was in the US

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
What if my host is in USA?

then u either switch hosts
or u comply to the new laws!

Spunky · 08-20-2004, 06:09 PM

I'm not doing shit...Come and get me mofos

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
really I heard it was in the US

where did you heard that?

sixxxthsense · 08-20-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense
TX, i think its working now!

crockett · 08-20-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
where did you heard that?

right here

http://www.whois.sc/thehun.net

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense
then u either switch hosts
or u comply to the new laws!

Are you kidding me?

USA Hosting companies are going to loose so many clients.

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
What if my host is in USA?

Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
right here

http://www.whois.sc/thehun.net

hmmm

Name Server: NS.VUURWERK.NL

That's dutch

jonesy · 08-20-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesnt matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesnt change anything.

Yes the 2257 law only applies to US citizens.

the US gov can go after an american citizen even if the servers are in other countries. your breaking a US LAW on/from US soil.

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.

That's sweet

Reak · 08-20-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by sixxxthsense

No problem

crockett · 08-20-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.

it says it doesn't comply to the hosting companies, but that doesn't mean all the sites on their server are free and clear.. They are meaning it's not the hosts responsibility for the content on the sites they host.

Anna_O · 08-20-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
Izz, as a minimum i would use only softcore images on a thumb preview TGP..thats not legal advice..just my advice...

This sucks if one owns a Fetish thumb tgp...

On the other hand we're not from the us and will probably switch hosting to our other host wich is in Belgium.

crockett · 08-20-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
hmmm

Name Server: NS.VUURWERK.NL

That's dutch

yea but the IP address

IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:25 PM

crockett,

Most hosting companies have their terms, in wich they also state that therye not responsible for any injuries caused by the client.

So basically it comes down to the client, wich for example would be dutch can do whatever he wants on an US based Hosting.

Anno_0, Switching host doesnt get you out of trouble, you have to comply with your law, so you just have to remove all the hardcore stuff.

DatingGold · 08-20-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by hy777
Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml

haha.. thats fucking funny.. you might have to change the domain or background color though cause that might offend someone. White is a more offensive color than black, mexican or chinese color.

DatingGold · 08-20-2004, 06:28 PM

move your server to france and put all the whois info in French.

problem solved.

Anna_O · 08-20-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice

Anno_0, Switching host doesnt get you out of trouble, you have to comply with your law, so you just have to remove all the hardcore stuff.

Well, we're from Sweden and there is no such law here

08-20-2004, 04:24 PM	#1
MrIzzz If u touch it, I will cum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: long island Posts: 22,923	TGP experts and 2257 someone please sum up and give me the cliff-notes of the effects of 2257 on thumb and text TGPs come august 24th. i am preparing all my sites now and have an idea of whats going on but i need specific detail. what will make a TGP compliant to 2257? if you dont wanna answer here then post an url for direct information so that i can read it when i come back from drinking tonight __________________ WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

08-20-2004, 04:45 PM	#2
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08-20-2004, 04:58 PM	#4
hy777 I have 6 credit cards, each buying 1 trial a day Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 56	Here is a fully compliant one. Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe. http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml Last edited by hy777; 08-20-2004 at 05:02 PM..

08-20-2004, 05:13 PM	#9
enter » Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: -- arizona --» Posts: 2,362	I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do. I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong. This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out. __________________ «-- offer extended through New Years (icq286487452)

08-20-2004, 05:40 PM	#13
teenoffice Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 415	Put your domains on a friends name wich lives outside the States done. The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people it has nothing to do with the location of your server. Last edited by teenoffice; 08-20-2004 at 05:41 PM..

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jonesy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,688	aaronm has his finger on the pulse of the new 2257 shiznit. hit him up. if your site promtes porn youll need docs for every model featured/shown on your site, wether theyre your pics or not. that goes for banners ads ect. thats pretyy much the gist of it __________________ . Shooting Bikini Girls

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08-20-2004, 06:25 PM	#47
teenoffice Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 415	crockett, Most hosting companies have their terms, in wich they also state that therye not responsible for any injuries caused by the client. So basically it comes down to the client, wich for example would be dutch can do whatever he wants on an US based Hosting. Anno_0, Switching host doesnt get you out of trouble, you have to comply with your law, so you just have to remove all the hardcore stuff.

08-20-2004, 06:28 PM	#49
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