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longdongsilver · 08-18-2004, 01:11 PM

What to try next

CCbill only seem to accept around 50% of transactions that are submitted. Today is on 22%.

This is a bit low really, what other 3rd party billers are any good? and is 12-18k anywhere near enough to get my own merchant account? I'm sure it could be nearer 25k pm if i could get more transactions accepted.

I asked netbilling a while back about getting a merchant bank set up but i think i needed like 50k pm at least as it's not a US based company.

Also is 16% about the amount you expect to pay for processing anywhere ?

I looked at the verotel pro option and could not really see if it was cheaper for 19.99pm memberships being as there is quite a few extra costs involved.

ccbill did seem to be the best of the 3rd party billers but are there any other options out there that may be better?

thanks

pornstar2pac · 08-18-2004, 01:12 PM

is this the real
"long dong silver"? loved your work in the early eighties

longdongsilver · 08-18-2004, 01:17 PM

hehe, nah wish i was ...but i just though the name sounded cool.

MattO · 08-18-2004, 01:22 PM

We've got an aggregator solution for lower volume adult accounts, minumum monthly processing is 5k.
Rates at 10%, $.75 transaction fee.
We can get an account setup and ready to plug into our API almost instantly.
Hit me up on ICQ if you're interested and I can shoot you our pre-application.

edit: also, if you started doing more volume, say around 25K and up, you could move into your own account and bring your rates down even further.

NETbilling · 08-18-2004, 02:05 PM

Hi,

CCbill is a great company. However, if youre are interested in our services, please call our sales team at 888-357-8166. We will surely save you money and give you control over your fraud scrubbing.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

longdongsilver · 08-18-2004, 02:48 PM

Hi there Matto thanks for the replies

Is that 10% +75c for the merchant account and card processing or will i need processing like netbilling also, and for 25k + per month what are the rates for the larger individual accounts? does it depend on chargebacks and refunds. With ccbill i have 0.1% chargebacks and 0.2% refunds but i guess this is due to the tight security and high rejections it will probably increase as i lower the scrub rate.

And a hello and question to Mitch ..netbilling seems to have a great reputation but is it still 50k to get a merchant account for non US companies or is it a bit less now these days?

NiteRain · 08-18-2004, 02:54 PM

longdong, well paycom seems to convert around 45%, our merchant account under netbilling converts around 70%-75%, jettis, seems to convert pretty well around 60%, oxbill sucks they turn their shit off when they don't get paid from the merchant provider so don't go there. Ecash too expensive, but they handle casino stuff rather well. Ibill, been a long time since I used them so I don't want to give you some outdated info. Wirecard overseas converts pretty high around 70%. I hope that has helped yah out, only problem with merchant accounts, is you have to keep a very close eye on your chargeback percentage, and I have it running thru two scrubs

longdongsilver · 08-18-2004, 04:44 PM

Hi NiteRain

thanks for the reply that's been quite a help indeed...i often wondered what % the other 3rd parties ran at.

Looking at the wirecard now...looks pretty good.

thanks

NETbilling · 08-18-2004, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by longdongsilver
Hi there Matto thanks for the replies

Is that 10% +75c for the merchant account and card processing or will i need processing like netbilling also, and for 25k + per month what are the rates for the larger individual accounts? does it depend on chargebacks and refunds. With ccbill i have 0.1% chargebacks and 0.2% refunds but i guess this is due to the tight security and high rejections it will probably increase as i lower the scrub rate.

And a hello and question to Mitch ..netbilling seems to have a great reputation but is it still 50k to get a merchant account for non US companies or is it a bit less now these days?

Hi,

We should be able to place you through a shared account if you are under 50k per month. If you want to email me your needs and contact info, I will have sales look into the options for you tomorrow. The merchant account and Netbilling gateway will be needed but we can surely set you up for less than 10% which is what is stated that Wirecard is charging above, correct?

[email protected]

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Zprogramz · 08-18-2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiteRain
longdong, well paycom seems to convert around 45%, our merchant account under netbilling converts around 70%-75%, jettis, seems to convert pretty well around 60%, oxbill sucks they turn their shit off when they don't get paid from the merchant provider so don't go there. Ecash too expensive, but they handle casino stuff rather well. Ibill, been a long time since I used them so I don't want to give you some outdated info. Wirecard overseas converts pretty high around 70%. I hope that has helped yah out, only problem with merchant accounts, is you have to keep a very close eye on your chargeback percentage, and I have it running thru two scrubs

We also convert very high through Netbilling and CCbill.

Z

08-18-2004, 01:11 PM	#1
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	ccbill ..any better options? i.e merchant account What to try next CCbill only seem to accept around 50% of transactions that are submitted. Today is on 22%. This is a bit low really, what other 3rd party billers are any good? and is 12-18k anywhere near enough to get my own merchant account? I'm sure it could be nearer 25k pm if i could get more transactions accepted. I asked netbilling a while back about getting a merchant bank set up but i think i needed like 50k pm at least as it's not a US based company. Also is 16% about the amount you expect to pay for processing anywhere ? I looked at the verotel pro option and could not really see if it was cheaper for 19.99pm memberships being as there is quite a few extra costs involved. ccbill did seem to be the best of the 3rd party billers but are there any other options out there that may be better? thanks

08-18-2004, 01:12 PM	#2
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08-18-2004, 01:22 PM	#4
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	We've got an aggregator solution for lower volume adult accounts, minumum monthly processing is 5k. Rates at 10%, $.75 transaction fee. We can get an account setup and ready to plug into our API almost instantly. Hit me up on ICQ if you're interested and I can shoot you our pre-application. edit: also, if you started doing more volume, say around 25K and up, you could move into your own account and bring your rates down even further. Last edited by MattO; 08-18-2004 at 01:24 PM..

08-18-2004, 02:05 PM	#5
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Hi, CCbill is a great company. However, if youre are interested in our services, please call our sales team at 888-357-8166. We will surely save you money and give you control over your fraud scrubbing. Thank you, Mitch Farber __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

08-18-2004, 02:54 PM	#7
NiteRain Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 600	longdong, well paycom seems to convert around 45%, our merchant account under netbilling converts around 70%-75%, jettis, seems to convert pretty well around 60%, oxbill sucks they turn their shit off when they don't get paid from the merchant provider so don't go there. Ecash too expensive, but they handle casino stuff rather well. Ibill, been a long time since I used them so I don't want to give you some outdated info. Wirecard overseas converts pretty high around 70%. I hope that has helped yah out, only problem with merchant accounts, is you have to keep a very close eye on your chargeback percentage, and I have it running thru two scrubs __________________ AIM: PerlScriptor Last edited by NiteRain; 08-18-2004 at 02:55 PM..

08-18-2004, 01:17 PM	#3
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	hehe, nah wish i was ...but i just though the name sounded cool.

08-18-2004, 02:48 PM	#6
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	Hi there Matto thanks for the replies Is that 10% +75c for the merchant account and card processing or will i need processing like netbilling also, and for 25k + per month what are the rates for the larger individual accounts? does it depend on chargebacks and refunds. With ccbill i have 0.1% chargebacks and 0.2% refunds but i guess this is due to the tight security and high rejections it will probably increase as i lower the scrub rate. And a hello and question to Mitch ..netbilling seems to have a great reputation but is it still 50k to get a merchant account for non US companies or is it a bit less now these days?

08-18-2004, 04:44 PM	#8
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	Hi NiteRain thanks for the reply that's been quite a help indeed...i often wondered what % the other 3rd parties ran at. Looking at the wirecard now...looks pretty good. thanks