Whats a killer setup for a new puter? - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 04:52 PM

I need a new computer soon. I need something good, very good, custom build.
It needs big harddrives for content and possibly a back up system?

Also a nice graphics card and other stuff that will improve speed.

What to buy? I dont need anything extreme tho, just the fasted/best at the best price...i dont need a gadget that makes makes it 1% faster for 300 bucks extra if you know what i mean.

Give me some suggestions. Dont point me to websites, im in holland, im not gonna order systems online.

EviLGuY · 08-17-2004, 04:53 PM

Get an athlon 64 processor. Thats my tip.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
Get an athlon xp 64 processor. Thats my tip.

Yes? Thats better than a pentium?

Manowar · 08-17-2004, 04:54 PM

althon 64bit
x800pro or 6800
200gb barracudas
1gb or more ram

EviLGuY · 08-17-2004, 04:54 PM

Best bang for your buck..

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Manowar
althon 64bit
x800pro or 6800
200gb barracudas
1gb or more ram

2 x 200 gigs?
Are there systems that let back up stuff? Like 2 more baracs to which i can copy my orignal files weekly or am i talking nonsense here?
I would cry for a week if i lost a 200 gig drive with content.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 04:57 PM

Any specific sound cards? Any other cool extra options?

mule · 08-17-2004, 04:59 PM

I'd go for this one, Battus:
http://silverapp1.mycom.nl/MyCom/Sto...aseSystemID=63

oops, forgot to ad: that's the bare-bones system, you can select more RAM, different harddrives etc. I've bought lots of systems from them, and they rock.

Libertine · 08-17-2004, 05:02 PM

Check out www.norrod.nl. It lets you configure your system entirely. Just go for something like:

- Asus MB A8V Deluxe 939 AMD
- AMD Athlon64 3800+ sock 939
- Crucial 512Mb DDR PC3200
- Crucial 512Mb DDR PC3200
- HDD 250Gb 7200rpm SATA
- HDD 250Gb 7200rpm SATA
- VGA ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:05 PM

Cool, thanks for the info...

CamChicks · 08-17-2004, 05:06 PM

People starting these kind of threads would do themselves a favor by mentioning their budget. $1500? $3000?

Jer · 08-17-2004, 05:08 PM

I bought these parts last month:

PIV 3.2
Motherboard Asus P4C800 Deluxe
Gexcube ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB 256bits
Case coolers 80x80 (Cooler Master)
(2) 200GB Seagate SATA
Floppy Drive
DVD Recorder LG 4082B
Thermaltake PSU W0020 (480W)

And I ordered these parts this month:

2x512MB Corsair Memory (Dual Channel TWINX1024-3200XLPT 1GB)
Logitech MX310 Optical Mouse

Can't wait to get the memory sticks so I can build and start using it.

CamChicks · 08-17-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
2 x 200 gigs?
Are there systems that let back up stuff? Like 2 more baracs to which i can copy my orignal files weekly or am i talking nonsense here?
I would cry for a week if i lost a 200 gig drive with content.

That's what RAID is for.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:09 PM

Well, no real budget but im also not looking to spend 4k.

Anything between 1 and 1.5k euros i guess (up to 2000 dollars)

Why are some 128 mb vid cards more expensive than 256 ones?

Jer · 08-17-2004, 05:10 PM

Total price: $2200

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
That's what RAID is for.

Care to explain to me in short what i would need for that and what the costs are?

Libertine · 08-17-2004, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Well, no real budget but im also not looking to spend 4k.

Anything between 1 and 1.5k euros i guess (up to 2000 dollars)

Why are some 128 mb vid cards more expensive than 256 ones?

Ah... that's a pretty limited budget if you want a very good setup. Not sure if you can get anything good for that price...

The reason that there are vid cards with 128 mb that are more expensive than 256 mb ones is that the amount of memory isn't all there is to vid cards. There's also clockspeed, memory type, etc.

EviLGuY · 08-17-2004, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Well, no real budget but im also not looking to spend 4k.

Anything between 1 and 1.5k euros i guess (up to 2000 dollars)

Why are some 128 mb vid cards more expensive than 256 ones?

Depends on the processor they use.. some use more ram as a gimmick and use a slower / older processor.

With video cards it's pretty much.. the more you spend the better the card performance wise.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Ah... that's a pretty limited budget if you want a very good setup. Not sure if you can get anything good for that price...

The reason that there are vid cards with 128 mb that are more expensive than 256 mb ones is that the amount of memory isn't all there is to vid cards. There's also clockspeed, memory type, etc.

Well i could spend more if really needed...but whats more expensive than 2k?

Btw, i dont need a screen and software...so thats already like 4 or 500 bucks less.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
Depends on the processor they use.. some use more ram as a gimmick and use a slower / older processor.

With video cards it's pretty much.. the more you spend the better the card performance wise.

Ok cool.

CamChicks · 08-17-2004, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Well, no real budget but im also not looking to spend 4k.

Anything between 1 and 1.5k euros i guess (up to 2000 dollars)

Why are some 128 mb vid cards more expensive than 256 ones?

Because sticking cheap memory onto older cards is a good way to get rid of stock you don't want anymore. That extra memory on the older cards usually offers no performance advantage - that's not where th bottleneck is.

Libertine · 08-17-2004, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Well i could spend more if really needed...but whats more expensive than 2k?

Btw, i dont need a screen and software...so thats already like 4 or 500 bucks less.

A reasonably high-end setup (but not the best) would probably cost around 2000 euro. Here's a 2k euro setup from norrod:

- Chieftec Bigtower ZWART
- Asus MB A8V Deluxe 939 AMD
- AMD Athlon64 3800+ sock 939
- DDRAM 512Mb PC3200 400MHz
- DDRAM 512Mb PC3200 400MHz
- HDD 160Gb 7200rpm SATA
- HDD 160Gb 7200rpm SATA
- DVD ROM 16x Speler ZWART
- DVD +/- Rewriter 12x speed zw
- VGA ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb
- Linksys WLAN PCI 54Mb kaart
- Systeemassemblage
- Microsoft Windows XP PRO NL

CamChicks · 08-17-2004, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Care to explain to me in short what i would need for that and what the costs are?

There are many different RAID setups, and it gets pretty complicated,
but in short what you were wanting is called a RAID 1.

RAID 1 is when you have 2 harddrives that mirror eachother. So if one dies, you still have an exact copy, right up to the minute it died. You lose no data, and your PC keeps working.

Any good motherboard supports RAID.
The only cost is the additional harddrive/s.

Something like the Abit IC7-G will allow you up to 4 harddrives in a couple different RAID configurations.

EviLGuY · 08-17-2004, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Care to explain to me in short what i would need for that and what the costs are?

RAID just means automatically writing the same info to more then 1 hard drive.

Most new motherboards these days have RAID (thats what you'd be using with 2 drives) controllers on them.. unless you get a bargain basement motherboard.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
A reasonably high-end setup (but not the best) would probably cost around 2000 euro. Here's a 2k euro setup from norrod:

- Chieftec Bigtower ZWART
- Asus MB A8V Deluxe 939 AMD
- AMD Athlon64 3800+ sock 939
- DDRAM 512Mb PC3200 400MHz
- DDRAM 512Mb PC3200 400MHz
- HDD 160Gb 7200rpm SATA
- HDD 160Gb 7200rpm SATA
- DVD ROM 16x Speler ZWART
- DVD +/- Rewriter 12x speed zw
- VGA ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb
- Linksys WLAN PCI 54Mb kaart
- Systeemassemblage
- Microsoft Windows XP PRO NL

Nice, i think thats what im looking for...thanks.

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
There are many different RAID setups, and it gets pretty complicated,
but in short what you were wanting is called a RAID 1.

RAID 1 is when you have 2 harddrives that mirror eachother. So if one dies, you still have an exact copy, right up to the minute it died. You lose no data, and your PC keeps working.

Any good motherboard supports RAID.
The only cost is the additional harddrive/s.

Something like the Abit IC7-G will allow you up to 4 harddrives in a couple different RAID configurations.

Oh good, so i just need to buy 2 more drives..

Sounds like a good deal, thats only a few 100 extra. That or the risk of one day losing a 200 gig disk

Libertine · 08-17-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
There are many different RAID setups, and it gets pretty complicated,
but in short what you were wanting is called a RAID 1.

RAID 1 is when you have 2 harddrives that mirror eachother. So if one dies, you still have an exact copy, right up to the minute it died. You lose no data, and your PC keeps working.

Additionally, RAID 1 also gives twice the Read transaction rate as single disks... which is pretty nice too

mule · 08-17-2004, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Nice, i think thats what im looking for...thanks.

Yes, that's a nice setup. You can get that for more or less the same price at Mycom on the Kinkerstraat as well.

Rich · 08-17-2004, 05:33 PM

My dual 2.0 processor G5 has been by far the best system I've ever used. Check 'em out.

The 23" HDTV plasma display doesn't hurt either.

http://www.apple.ca/G5

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

My dual 2.0 processor G5 has been by far the best system I've ever used. Check 'em out.

The 23" HDTV plasma display doesn't hurt either.

http://www.apple.ca/G5

Nigga please!

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule
Yes, that's a nice setup. You can get that for more or less the same price at Mycom on the Kinkerstraat as well.

Aight!

Dirty F · 08-17-2004, 05:39 PM

Well, im going to bed, thanks for the help.

zzgundamnzz · 08-17-2004, 05:41 PM

This is a powerfull tandy 2500sx computer

it has a 386sx 33 cpu

3 megs of ram

tandy sound!!!

VGA COLOR!!!

an 80 meg hard drive

3.5 meg floppy

a modem

and Dos 3.3

CamChicks · 08-17-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Ah... that's a pretty limited budget if you want a very good setup. Not sure if you can get anything good for that price...

If you buy the right parts and overclock, you can safely build a machine better than any $3K+ storebought PC for $1500-$2000.

The retailers won't do this though, for legal/contractual reasons; not because it's dangerous. The software onboard many motherboards will even allow you to do it from within a menu. You just have to do your homework before choosing components.

Also, this is a bad time to buy with it being summer and Doom3 coming out etc - prices of parts have gone up from where they were 3 or 6 months ago. I'm waiting 'till late Sept or Oct before I start mine.

08-17-2004, 04:52 PM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Whats a killer setup for a new puter? I need a new computer soon. I need something good, very good, custom build. It needs big harddrives for content and possibly a back up system? Also a nice graphics card and other stuff that will improve speed. What to buy? I dont need anything extreme tho, just the fasted/best at the best price...i dont need a gadget that makes makes it 1% faster for 300 bucks extra if you know what i mean. Give me some suggestions. Dont point me to websites, im in holland, im not gonna order systems online.

08-17-2004, 04:59 PM	#8
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	I'd go for this one, Battus: http://silverapp1.mycom.nl/MyCom/Sto...aseSystemID=63 oops, forgot to ad: that's the bare-bones system, you can select more RAM, different harddrives etc. I've bought lots of systems from them, and they rock. __________________ Converting like a mofo Last edited by mule; 08-17-2004 at 05:02 PM..

08-17-2004, 05:02 PM	#9
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Check out www.norrod.nl. It lets you configure your system entirely. Just go for something like: - Asus MB A8V Deluxe 939 AMD - AMD Athlon64 3800+ sock 939 - Crucial 512Mb DDR PC3200 - Crucial 512Mb DDR PC3200 - HDD 250Gb 7200rpm SATA - HDD 250Gb 7200rpm SATA - VGA ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Mb __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

08-17-2004, 05:06 PM	#11
CamChicks Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: godless northwest Posts: 1,552	People starting these kind of threads would do themselves a favor by mentioning their budget. $1500? $3000? __________________ camchicks.com

08-17-2004, 05:41 PM	#33
zzgundamnzz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,102	This is a powerfull tandy 2500sx computer it has a 386sx 33 cpu 3 megs of ram tandy sound!!! VGA COLOR!!! an 80 meg hard drive 3.5 meg floppy a modem and Dos 3.3 __________________

08-17-2004, 04:53 PM	#2
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Get an athlon 64 processor. Thats my tip.

08-17-2004, 04:54 PM	#4
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	althon 64bit x800pro or 6800 200gb barracudas 1gb or more ram

08-17-2004, 04:57 PM	#7
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Any specific sound cards? Any other cool extra options?

08-17-2004, 05:05 PM	#10
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Cool, thanks for the info...

08-17-2004, 05:08 PM	#12
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I bought these parts last month: PIV 3.2 Motherboard Asus P4C800 Deluxe Gexcube ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB 256bits Case coolers 80x80 (Cooler Master) (2) 200GB Seagate SATA Floppy Drive DVD Recorder LG 4082B Thermaltake PSU W0020 (480W) And I ordered these parts this month: 2x512MB Corsair Memory (Dual Channel TWINX1024-3200XLPT 1GB) Logitech MX310 Optical Mouse Can't wait to get the memory sticks so I can build and start using it.

08-17-2004, 05:09 PM	#14
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Well, no real budget but im also not looking to spend 4k. Anything between 1 and 1.5k euros i guess (up to 2000 dollars) Why are some 128 mb vid cards more expensive than 256 ones?

08-17-2004, 05:10 PM	#15
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Total price: $2200

08-17-2004, 05:33 PM	#29
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	My dual 2.0 processor G5 has been by far the best system I've ever used. Check 'em out. The 23" HDTV plasma display doesn't hurt either. http://www.apple.ca/G5

08-17-2004, 05:39 PM	#32
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Well, im going to bed, thanks for the help.