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Old 08-17-2004, 02:57 PM   #101
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I found myself in this same situation years ago as well Scott. I tried to help a really close friend recover from crack. He did rehab and "found God". He became a very devout preacher and ministered to the high school kids in our town. He professed to be clean and sober for almost 2 years.
I knew him during his using days and was close to him during his recovery.

I supported him emotionally and financially.

But... I began to suspect he was using again and several of his close friends confronted him. Of course, I was wrong, I had to be he had been clean for 2 whole years.

Two weeks later was when he broke into my home, stole my car, beat me and kidnapped me. He locked me in the trunk of my car that he sold for crack. If the police had not raided the crack dealers house that night I would have died. The dealer didn't even know I was there.


He has served 7 years on a 20 year sentence now. He writes to my mothers house occasionally, he is not allowed to contact me. He says he is clean and begs for the forgiveness I do not have.

This is a difficult situation you are in. You are my friend and I am here to listen if you need me.
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Old 08-17-2004, 03:01 PM   #102
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Wow kathi, I am out of words but sure Glad everything turned out ok for you.

Damn
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Old 08-17-2004, 03:19 PM   #103
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I found myself in this same situation years ago as well Scott. I tried to help a really close friend recover from crack. He did rehab and "found God". He became a very devout preacher and ministered to the high school kids in our town. He professed to be clean and sober for almost 2 years.
I knew him during his using days and was close to him during his recovery.

I supported him emotionally and financially.

But... I began to suspect he was using again and several of his close friends confronted him. Of course, I was wrong, I had to be he had been clean for 2 whole years.

Two weeks later was when he broke into my home, stole my car, beat me and kidnapped me. He locked me in the trunk of my car that he sold for crack. If the police had not raided the crack dealers house that night I would have died. The dealer didn't even know I was there.


He has served 7 years on a 20 year sentence now. He writes to my mothers house occasionally, he is not allowed to contact me. He says he is clean and begs for the forgiveness I do not have.

This is a difficult situation you are in. You are my friend and I am here to listen if you need me.
One of the main reasons why there is NOTHING you can do if they have a serious problem. You're an extreme case but usually they have to hit the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:12 PM   #104
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This is a very interesting thread, lots of great advices from good people here.

I know there's many people reading this thread that get the feeling it might be them Scott is talking bout. Well even if it's not you, if you think that your life is sinking or you feel you are getting out of hand, well take all these advices in this thread and it will help. But it will ONLY help if you want it for real.

I had to make changes in my life and was lucky to have REAL friends that still stuck with me threw thick and thin. I am now a wayyyy better man with a clear mind then I was a year ago at the Miami show... Hell I was " That Guy" at a couple of shows and to be honest although it helped out branding JMan as the PARTY guy, it did not really help out promoting the true business man I am.

I made a decision to lay low for a while from the big shows. Although I missed lots of real good friends, I feel that this was the best decision for me. And to be honest, I am doing more business since I don't have my picture all over FUBAR (No Pun intended JFK), then I ever did before.

No I did NOT find Jesus and yes I am still the same crazy fun guy but I am now doing it in moderation.

I am looking forward to see bunch of you in Mexico and in Curacao for after working this hard on my business I will deserve a well earned vacation with some good friends and my new found soul mate.

If you love life, yourself and also if you have a family and friends you love just Be Carefull.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:56 PM   #105
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I found myself in this same situation years ago as well Scott. I tried to help a really close friend recover from crack. He did rehab and "found God". He became a very devout preacher and ministered to the high school kids in our town. He professed to be clean and sober for almost 2 years.
I knew him during his using days and was close to him during his recovery.

I supported him emotionally and financially.

But... I began to suspect he was using again and several of his close friends confronted him. Of course, I was wrong, I had to be he had been clean for 2 whole years.

Two weeks later was when he broke into my home, stole my car, beat me and kidnapped me. He locked me in the trunk of my car that he sold for crack. If the police had not raided the crack dealers house that night I would have died. The dealer didn't even know I was there.


He has served 7 years on a 20 year sentence now. He writes to my mothers house occasionally, he is not allowed to contact me. He says he is clean and begs for the forgiveness I do not have.

This is a difficult situation you are in. You are my friend and I am here to listen if you need me.
oh my god kathy - that's horrible.

it's amazing how often an addict will try and cover it up thinking no one knows when pretty much everyone can see what's going on.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:58 PM   #106
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When will people learn it's not the drug it's the person.

The drug didn't force its way up his nose for fucks sake.
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:00 PM   #107
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When will people learn it's not the drug it's the person.

The drug didn't force its way up his nose for fucks sake.
I agree completely.
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:01 PM   #108
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one thing i have never done is cocaine. almost feel like starting tonight though...
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:13 PM   #109
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Sleazy you are really showing some class here,

I wish the situation well for all involved.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:31 PM   #110
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Sleazy, you dotn know me, and i dont know you, only from seeing post from you here and i wished i had such friends when i needed them.

I really cant tell whats best to do, i can only tell about own experience.

I have allready since i whas child problems (psychical, personalty disorder(s)) (im now 35)
Thank god i never did any harddrugs, but i whas alcoholist.

When i whas 21 my father died for my eyes and when that happend its whats like everything came together and i started to drink.. and really 24/7. I didnt realized i had a problem, and as long as people dont realize they have a problem, doesnt matter if they use drugs or alcohol, you can talk what you want to those people but they wont listen.
The "friends" i had, they had big fun about me.. when i whas drinking everyone who whas with me had free drinks. They cost me big money.
And weirdest thing is: even when i wouldnt have listen to people, i WISHED there where people who talked to me about the problems.. not at the moment self, but i realize after a period.

I realized i whas wrong and had problems whas at a day i saw my mom and (ex) girlfriend crying about me..
Then i realized i whas wrong and had problems and i went to psych for help. And i think really your friend needs psychical help to but then again he needs to realize offcourse.

Sleazy, you can talk to your friend, but when he doesnt realize he has a problem it wont help much, but dont let him down. Be there for him when he need you.
Call him so once in a while just to ask hows it going, or just have a talk about the weather but give him the feeling hes not alone.

For me, i dont have any friends because i have a very big anti trust against people now. Even when i need a friend i cant gve them my trust because they let me down.

Just dont let him down, even when its sometimes very frustrating. Be there for him.

I never post here (well not much) but when i saw this topic it touched me and i had feeling i had to write something.


And i must say you earned much respect for showing you are a real friend for people you care about. At least you earned my respect.. (okie now i have change to get smartass comments but so be it )


Regards,

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Old 08-19-2004, 12:34 PM   #111
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I do my drugs in moderation as well.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:54 PM   #112
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This is a very interesting thread, lots of great advices from good people here.

I know there's many people reading this thread that get the feeling it might be them Scott is talking bout. Well even if it's not you, if you think that your life is sinking or you feel you are getting out of hand, well take all these advices in this thread and it will help. But it will ONLY help if you want it for real.

I had to make changes in my life and was lucky to have REAL friends that still stuck with me threw thick and thin. I am now a wayyyy better man with a clear mind then I was a year ago at the Miami show... Hell I was " That Guy" at a couple of shows and to be honest although it helped out branding JMan as the PARTY guy, it did not really help out promoting the true business man I am.

I made a decision to lay low for a while from the big shows. Although I missed lots of real good friends, I feel that this was the best decision for me. And to be honest, I am doing more business since I don't have my picture all over FUBAR (No Pun intended JFK), then I ever did before.

No I did NOT find Jesus and yes I am still the same crazy fun guy but I am now doing it in moderation.

I am looking forward to see bunch of you in Mexico and in Curacao for after working this hard on my business I will deserve a well earned vacation with some good friends and my new found soul mate.

If you love life, yourself and also if you have a family and friends you love just Be Carefull.
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