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The Hun · 05-20-2001, 02:58 AM

I got this message in my mail today:

Dear Mr Hun, I am usually very carefull with giving my credit card details
on the internet,but this site said a 3 day trial,credit card # needed for
age verification only,so i gave my #,silly me ,,well i got my user name and
pass word and went to the teen site,only to find that in order to actually
see any pics or movies i had to upgrade my membership at an extra charge,,so
i cancelled my membership after 15 minutes,,,anyway i checked my credit card
balance the next morning and $96 X 2 had been taken ,i have contacted my
bank and they said to wait till i get my next statement as i have cancelled
they may not go ahead with the transaction,the site involved is "THE NAPSTER
OF PORN" using SUPABILL.COM..thanks keep up the great work,,

Is this regular tactics by freeadultpasses?

SABAI · 05-20-2001, 03:05 AM

hmmm, this won't help our industry's image

i know IBILL did something like this last year...the guy (a friend of mine) cancelled and mailed them many times but they kept rebilling him two more months...

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tom · 05-20-2001, 03:38 AM

just another reason not to promote trial memberships or free passes - 99% of the freeloaders out there cancel their trial membership anyway

tom

p.s. taking 96 bucks twice is a pure rip off - think freeadultpasses will end up at the huns blacklist soon

sairanx · 05-20-2001, 05:52 AM

this guy will never use his cc again.... Those porn napster guys and especially the third party processor should be banned by everyone!

playa · 05-20-2001, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tom:
just another reason not to promote trial memberships or free passes - 99% of the freeloaders out there cancel their trial membership anyway

tom

p.s. taking 96 bucks twice is a pure rip off - think freeadultpasses will end up at the huns blacklist soon

actually its more like 65% cancell
if it was 99% this business won't be worth it.. if you don't promote trial or free passes than what sponsers do you use?

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ldinternet · 05-20-2001, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa:
if you don't promote trial or free passes than what sponsers do you use?

:: looks confusingly at playa's sig ::

tom · 05-20-2001, 10:07 AM

only 50/50 partnerships that dont offer trials for 2.99

the only exception is scoreland because i love their content

TheWatcher · 05-20-2001, 10:50 AM

I use ARS, Zooted, and 4A also thinking about adding TrueCash to my list.. anyone had any luck with them?

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boneprone · 05-26-2001, 11:44 AM

it is how they do it yes.

Wilber · 05-26-2001, 12:55 PM

The surfer said he contacted his bank and he obviously contacted TheHun.
What is odd is that there is no mention of him contacting freeadultpasses
or supabill.com. It is possible he is doing his follow-ups one at a time but...
one has to be careful with allegations. If this is the only email received,
accusing freeadultpasses of over-charging, then one would have to take
this accusation w/a-grain-of-salt.
Unless there is multiple instances of this occurring with freeadultpasses
then it must be ignored or at the very least tell the surfer you will monitor
for more instances but have not heard of this sponsor overcharging before
and you are "looking into it" (which means 'sorry, you stand alone.')

wolfshade · 05-27-2001, 05:36 AM

Hmmm sound fishy,

Hun I know the guys from FNP if you like I can hook you up with the owners.

You will find they are good people you can work with

Buzz me if you'd like to get in touch with them as I'm not in the habbit of giving out adress details through public boards unless I got permission.

Cheers,
Wolfshade

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xmedia · 05-27-2001, 05:48 AM

freeadultpasses is a FREE site advertising sites for PornCash. They used to advertise CyberErotica's Free signup program, now they use PornCash. SUPABILL.COM is the CC processor used by PornCash (actually, it's owned by PornCash).

The Hun · 05-28-2001, 05:03 AM

Wilber. It wasn't the only e-mail I received, but it was the most detailed one...

Badgurl · 05-28-2001, 05:11 AM

That's why I keep my trial at $9.95...

Keeps the "wham bam thanks sucker" out

I don't get as many sign ups...but they pay a lot better than the join 4 free's and the $2.99 three day trials.

I think a lot of the big sites that use that are just after another email address they can covertly spam forever...*lol*

Wilber · 05-28-2001, 01:28 PM

The Hun.

If those emails all seemed to have come in a short time period
I would suspect foul play from some pissed-off surfer or FAP
competition. The whole thing strikes me odd from the orig posting.
The bit about "$96 X 2" when the surfer says he did not go for the
upgrade.

My guess (in that particular instance) is the surfer got fired-up about
free access and pumped his CC in for the entrance...once in, he discovered
ugly women and upgrades. It is a classic charge-back situation. For the
competition theory, well get thehun to blacklist and it could cost someone
a few dollars.

I haven't seen any bitchin' about FAP or supabill.com anywhere else
frequented by Adult webmasters. To cheat $96 X 2 on a $5.00
temp-pass...well...the whole thing is too exaggerated.

I would email the surfer back, ask him if he contacted FAP and supabill.com.
Take his response and forward it to http://www.sponsorpost.com or
[email protected] he spends his time investigating adult scams.

rhizome · 05-28-2001, 01:35 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if something like this is going on; after all, Porncash pays up to $45 per free trial. Hell, CE couldn't even end up affording $25 per free trial.

The Hun · 05-29-2001, 05:53 AM

Wilber... got another one today. And got someone writing to my PO-box about supabill... People are having a hard time cancelling their membership.

twinkley · 05-29-2001, 01:05 PM

TheWatcher...

TrueCash Rocks! (okay, I may be biased)

Look for version 2.0 in the near future

danielle

Wilber · 05-29-2001, 02:47 PM

The Hun.

If anything is "suspect" here the onus would fall on who handles the
CC #. In this case it seems to be supabill.com. Now I want to be careful
here cause I am not going to point fingers at any entity cause I am only
speaking as an observer...that said...

supabill.com was registered through Twocows not that that's bad, its just
unusual that a merchant is reg'ing domains through Twocows. The name
server at supabill.com is dnsrack.com and they were _not_ registered
through Twocows. The registrant is Supabill Services Inc. Dnsrack is hosted
by a company in Virginia (WorldNIC Name Host)...this could be considered
'unusual' but there is a rotten apple in all this...Supabill Services Inc has a
PO box address in Vancouver, B.C. Canada and the phone number reg's for
them is 14197811274 fax:14197811274. That would mean that 1 is for long
distance and 419 is Ohio. Also a fax number and a phone number on one
telephone line?

There is a stinky-fish in the basket somewhere. One possibility is that a US
company runs Supabill Services Inc in Canada (foreign companies get a tax
free credit for operating in Canada) so a US dollar is worth $1.50 in Canada
and added that foreign co.'s get the tax break then its possible someone is
just being dollar-efficient.

I would pass the case on to [email protected]. Let someone
who is willing to dig into these 'anomalies'. Your smart...you now what to
do with the rest. Let me know what happens if you take it further I find
it all rather 'interesting'.

oscer · 05-29-2001, 03:06 PM

We should kill this site

And only Promote Real Sites that Use People that are Honest !

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rhizome · 05-29-2001, 03:31 PM

Does Supabill even do processing for any other sites other than the Porncash ones? Again, there was a reason why Xpics was able to pay out so much - is the same thing happening with Porncash?

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05-20-2001, 02:58 AM	#1
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	FreeAdultPasses I got this message in my mail today: Dear Mr Hun, I am usually very carefull with giving my credit card details on the internet,but this site said a 3 day trial,credit card # needed for age verification only,so i gave my #,silly me ,,well i got my user name and pass word and went to the teen site,only to find that in order to actually see any pics or movies i had to upgrade my membership at an extra charge,,so i cancelled my membership after 15 minutes,,,anyway i checked my credit card balance the next morning and $96 X 2 had been taken ,i have contacted my bank and they said to wait till i get my next statement as i have cancelled they may not go ahead with the transaction,the site involved is "THE NAPSTER OF PORN" using SUPABILL.COM..thanks keep up the great work,, Is this regular tactics by freeadultpasses?

12-21-2003, 01:48 AM	#22
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05-20-2001, 03:05 AM	#2
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	hmmm, this won't help our industry's image i know IBILL did something like this last year...the guy (a friend of mine) cancelled and mailed them many times but they kept rebilling him two more months... ------------------ www.adult-web-master.com evidence eliminator sells like hot cakes on porn sites

05-20-2001, 03:38 AM	#3
tom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: from the mountains Posts: 102	just another reason not to promote trial memberships or free passes - 99% of the freeloaders out there cancel their trial membership anyway tom p.s. taking 96 bucks twice is a pure rip off - think freeadultpasses will end up at the huns blacklist soon

05-20-2001, 05:52 AM	#4
sairanx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Europe / the Netherlands Posts: 125	this guy will never use his cc again.... Those porn napster guys and especially the third party processor should be banned by everyone!

05-20-2001, 10:07 AM	#7
tom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: from the mountains Posts: 102	only 50/50 partnerships that dont offer trials for 2.99 the only exception is scoreland because i love their content

05-20-2001, 10:50 AM	#8
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	I use ARS, Zooted, and 4A also thinking about adding TrueCash to my list.. anyone had any luck with them? ------------------ Peace will come, just kill them all...

05-26-2001, 11:44 AM	#9
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	it is how they do it yes.

05-26-2001, 12:55 PM	#10
Wilber Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: De,Oh,Lei Posts: 1,295	The surfer said he contacted his bank and he obviously contacted TheHun. What is odd is that there is no mention of him contacting freeadultpasses or supabill.com. It is possible he is doing his follow-ups one at a time but... one has to be careful with allegations. If this is the only email received, accusing freeadultpasses of over-charging, then one would have to take this accusation w/a-grain-of-salt. Unless there is multiple instances of this occurring with freeadultpasses then it must be ignored or at the very least tell the surfer you will monitor for more instances but have not heard of this sponsor overcharging before and you are "looking into it" (which means 'sorry, you stand alone.')

05-27-2001, 05:36 AM	#11
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Hmmm sound fishy, Hun I know the guys from FNP if you like I can hook you up with the owners. You will find they are good people you can work with Buzz me if you'd like to get in touch with them as I'm not in the habbit of giving out adress details through public boards unless I got permission. Cheers, Wolfshade ------------------ Get paid per minute! Dialerclopedia

05-27-2001, 05:48 AM	#12
xmedia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 52	freeadultpasses is a FREE site advertising sites for PornCash. They used to advertise CyberErotica's Free signup program, now they use PornCash. SUPABILL.COM is the CC processor used by PornCash (actually, it's owned by PornCash).

05-28-2001, 05:03 AM	#13
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Wilber. It wasn't the only e-mail I received, but it was the most detailed one...

05-28-2001, 05:11 AM	#14
Badgurl Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 161	That's why I keep my trial at $9.95... Keeps the "wham bam thanks sucker" out I don't get as many sign ups...but they pay a lot better than the join 4 free's and the $2.99 three day trials. I think a lot of the big sites that use that are just after another email address they can covertly spam forever...lol

05-28-2001, 01:28 PM	#15
Wilber Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: De,Oh,Lei Posts: 1,295	The Hun. If those emails all seemed to have come in a short time period I would suspect foul play from some pissed-off surfer or FAP competition. The whole thing strikes me odd from the orig posting. The bit about "$96 X 2" when the surfer says he did not go for the upgrade. My guess (in that particular instance) is the surfer got fired-up about free access and pumped his CC in for the entrance...once in, he discovered ugly women and upgrades. It is a classic charge-back situation. For the competition theory, well get thehun to blacklist and it could cost someone a few dollars. I haven't seen any bitchin' about FAP or supabill.com anywhere else frequented by Adult webmasters. To cheat $96 X 2 on a $5.00 temp-pass...well...the whole thing is too exaggerated. I would email the surfer back, ask him if he contacted FAP and supabill.com. Take his response and forward it to http://www.sponsorpost.com or [email protected] he spends his time investigating adult scams.

05-28-2001, 01:35 PM	#16
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	It wouldn't surprise me if something like this is going on; after all, Porncash pays up to $45 per free trial. Hell, CE couldn't even end up affording $25 per free trial.

05-29-2001, 05:53 AM	#17
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Wilber... got another one today. And got someone writing to my PO-box about supabill... People are having a hard time cancelling their membership.

05-29-2001, 01:05 PM	#18
twinkley Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 807	TheWatcher... TrueCash Rocks! (okay, I may be biased) Look for version 2.0 in the near future danielle

05-29-2001, 02:47 PM	#19
Wilber Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: De,Oh,Lei Posts: 1,295	The Hun. If anything is "suspect" here the onus would fall on who handles the CC #. In this case it seems to be supabill.com. Now I want to be careful here cause I am not going to point fingers at any entity cause I am only speaking as an observer...that said... supabill.com was registered through Twocows not that that's bad, its just unusual that a merchant is reg'ing domains through Twocows. The name server at supabill.com is dnsrack.com and they were _not_ registered through Twocows. The registrant is Supabill Services Inc. Dnsrack is hosted by a company in Virginia (WorldNIC Name Host)...this could be considered 'unusual' but there is a rotten apple in all this...Supabill Services Inc has a PO box address in Vancouver, B.C. Canada and the phone number reg's for them is 14197811274 fax:14197811274. That would mean that 1 is for long distance and 419 is Ohio. Also a fax number and a phone number on one telephone line? There is a stinky-fish in the basket somewhere. One possibility is that a US company runs Supabill Services Inc in Canada (foreign companies get a tax free credit for operating in Canada) so a US dollar is worth $1.50 in Canada and added that foreign co.'s get the tax break then its possible someone is just being dollar-efficient. I would pass the case on to [email protected]. Let someone who is willing to dig into these 'anomalies'. Your smart...you now what to do with the rest. Let me know what happens if you take it further I find it all rather 'interesting'.

05-29-2001, 03:06 PM	#20
oscer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,834	We should kill this site And only Promote Real Sites that Use People that are Honest ! ------------------ Stynk Adult Freehost

05-29-2001, 03:31 PM	#21
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	Does Supabill even do processing for any other sites other than the Porncash ones? Again, there was a reason why Xpics was able to pay out so much - is the same thing happening with Porncash?