Hyundai Tiburon? - GoFuckYourself.com

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:09 PM

My buddy bought a 2004 model about 1.5 years ago or more now.

He loved that damn car a lot. I liked it too. Rode nice.. looked slick decent on gas.

Anyone own one or know anyone who owns one who has

on one?

Tuscani 5spd

MrIzzz · 08-09-2004, 08:11 PM

do you tuck in your penis between your legs and stare at yourself in the mirror?

if the answer is yes, then you should buy that car

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:11 PM

wtf Izzz?

Indeed · 08-09-2004, 08:12 PM

its quite a nice car for girls and homos

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:14 PM

Ugh. Why I bother is beyond me.

MrIzzz · 08-09-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
wtf Izzz?

j/k

that car is a bit feminie, no? like guys who buy neons...

pxxx · 08-09-2004, 08:15 PM

No, but i will like one of those myself.

[Brian] · 08-09-2004, 08:16 PM

Nothing wrong with those B

In 3 months you could be getting at LEAST a 330ci or something similar though

Vitasoy · 08-09-2004, 08:17 PM

Maybe it's just me but I'd never buy a Hyundai.

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Brian]
Nothing wrong with those B

In 3 months you could be getting at LEAST a 330ci or something similar though

Hey don't fuck with me now... cause I have been dying for an M3 for a couple of years now.
But shit, a 330is would do me fine too ;)

[Brian] · 08-09-2004, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Hey don't fuck with me now... cause I have been dying for an M3 for a couple of years now.
But shit, a 330is would do me fine too ;)

Irvine BMW is only a few blocks from the office

Nismo · 08-09-2004, 08:28 PM

hyundais are horrible cars.

Veterans Day · 08-09-2004, 08:32 PM

GTS Mark · 08-09-2004, 08:32 PM

I gotta go with Izz on this one.

DH

KeWLKaT · 08-09-2004, 08:35 PM

Hyundai + Izusu = two rejected 'import' car models only females buy.

pxxx · 08-09-2004, 08:39 PM

Funny thing is that a lot of guys here ride that car all hooked up, and they swear they are the shit.

ace0r · 08-09-2004, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
like guys who buy neons...

or guys in vw bugs

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:46 PM

candyflip · 08-09-2004, 08:46 PM

2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT

Guide Rating - 4 Stars out of 5

With a 172 hp V-6 up front, a taut 4-wheel independent suspension, and a no-nonsense fully-spec'd interior, Hyundai's Tiburon GT coupe means business. And it's got plenty of style to match. Price in the US starts at a very competitive $18,199. Warranty: 5 year, 50,000 mi. bumper-to-bumper; 10 year/100,000 mi. powertrain.

First Glance
What could be more pleasant on a warm summer's day than driving down shaded country lanes in a racy-looking sports coupe, with John Lennon's Strawberry Fields as mood-setter? That's how I began my test of the 2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT and it's the way I ended it, too, except that Lennon's music wasn't on the radio and I found myself waiting for a parade of beautiful vintage and classic automobiles, out for a club cruise, to pass by. As I stared at the owners in admiration and envy (I do dig vintage cars), they stared back at me, curious about this sleek black beauty which they couldn't quite put a name to. Nor, it seemed, could anyone else, for the car attracted admiring yet quizzical glances wherever I went. Actually our test vehicle is owned by a friend who was so eager to have me review his Tiburon that he was willing to sacrifice it for a week and take his chances with these cynical critiques. (Too late now, Ralph!) A Dutchman of good humor, he gets such a kick out of watching confused onlookers doing walkarounds that he had the dealer remove all external identification except for one mysterious logo on the trunk. No, Ralph doesn't give out prizes for the best guess.

Unfortunately the Tiburon's styling follows a trend to high waistlines and narrow windows. The Audi TT is one example, so's the Chrysler 300. This may look racy but it leads to a claustrophobic environment and when combined with the Tiburon's high cowl and low seating, poor sightlines. An all-black interior doesn't help, though for 2004 Hyundai added aluminum pedals which, with the faux-titanium trim currently in vogue, breaks the monotony. But what were they thinking of with those instruments? Seven dials altogether, four up front, three in the console, none of them large enough to be read at a glance. Sorry to say this, but warning lights would have sufficed. The GT's seats follow best driving practise, well-bolstered to keep driver and passenger in place. Adjustment, though comprehensive, is manual. To be honest, I found the seats too firm but maybe that's my advancing years talking. The rear seat is meant only for kids and that's okay; the Tiburon is a 2+2, not a family hack. If we gave awards for sunroofs, however, I'd rate the Tuburon's a 10-out-of-10, for this is one of the very few that can be opened without interior buffeting or annoying drafts, regardless of whether the windows are open or closed.

On the Road
With 172 hp and 181 lbs. ft. of torque, the GT's sweet-sounding V-6 doesn't disappoint. Acceleration from rest and passing power are both more than adequate for fun driving. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the GT's power-to-weight ratio is right on the cusp for front-wheel-drive sports coupes. Torque-steer is evident the moment one floors the gas pedal and continues as the car leaps forward; the Tiburon should come with a warning sign advising drivers to "keep both hands on the wheel and pay attention." Come to think of it, so should the competition. The 5-speed manual (6-speed is an option with the GT) is fitted with superbly-matched ratios that keep engine revs in the sweet spot; unfortunately it lacks the slick smoothness of even a Honda Civic. Changing gears requires effort, as does the steering which, though moderately quick, needs muscle. In all, I'd say this is a car with a heavy feel to the controls, like a 1950's sports car. But also, like a 50's sports car, it can be hustled through the curves, using a combination of understeer and induced oversteer for perfect control. The price, then and now, is a firm ride that's just fine on smooth asphalt but disturbing when the terrain gets rough.

Forgive me if I seem condescending, but the owner of this 2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT perfectly reflects one half of its target market. Ralph is a good-looking guy in his late 50's, a former 707 pilot who likes to maintain a youthful image. He lives by a mountain lake reached by an endlessly-curving road. Each day he leaves home at 5:00 AM to start baking at his Sidney, BC, coffee shop, 45-minutes to the south. Roughly half his trip is on winding roads, the rest on a 4-lane highway. At that hour he has the roads to himself. The drive in the Tiburon is pure joy. And should he need to load up the trunk with supplies for the shop, the hatch-type trunk and 50/50 split-folding rear seat offers plenty of space. He loves his Tiburon. So, for different reasons, will the 25-35 year-old Hyundai hopes to captivate. Ralph's buddy (me) struggled to get in and out of the tight cockpit, could barely reach the opened trunk lid, worked harder than he liked to drive this car at its limits. Before you buy a Tiburon, decide on your priorities: if appearance and driving fun, regardless of effort or discomfort, is your goal, here's your car. Be comforted by that generous warranty.

http://cars.about.com/od/sportcoupes...buron_test.htm

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:48 PM

What I do know for fact is that I sat in the back seat and it is made for Koreans. 5'7" is the warning max height for comfortable seating.

Illicit · 08-09-2004, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nismo
hyundais are horrible cars.

definately... I bought one as my first new car along time ago... I went through 4 transmissions and they finally bought it back. worst car ever ! no resale value either.

Persius · 08-09-2004, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vitasoy
Maybe it's just me but I'd never buy a Hyundai.

BradM · 08-09-2004, 08:56 PM

No worries folks. Brian is buying me a bimmer.

MrJackMeHoff · 08-09-2004, 09:03 PM

I'd buy it just to crash it into stuff for fun maybe?

candyflip · 08-09-2004, 09:06 PM

How many of you guys have ever driven one of these? Hyundai has the best warranty in the business. Their cars are always top rated with Consumer Reports. You're not going to find another sporty little ride with a V6, leather, A/C, all power and a moonroof for the same $18k.

I give it a thumbs up Brad. But...you should know better than to ask here about cars that aren't BMWs, Ferraris or Porsches.

DrewKole · 08-09-2004, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
do you tuck in your penis between your legs and stare at yourself in the mirror?

if the answer is yes, then you should buy that car

What do you drive Izzz?

Mcarlsen · 08-09-2004, 09:11 PM

You openly admit you like a tiburon. Shit I don't even know how to spell the name of that piece. Get a real car bitch, like a corvette or a viper.

BradM · 08-09-2004, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mcarlsen
You openly admit you like a tiburon. Shit I don't even know how to spell the name of that piece. Get a real car bitch, like a corvette or a viper.

No problem. Let me get out of highschool first.

tyler86ed · 08-09-2004, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
No problem. Let me get out of highschool first.

haha. Perfect response.

Personally, I think Hyundai's Suck. I used to work at a shop in HS, and in a few years of college. I can def tell you that they have ALOT of problems. my

fuzebox · 08-09-2004, 09:24 PM

The V6 is really dull to drive, and the 6 speed tranny is mostly a marketing trick. Honestly I think it'd be a downgrade from your CRX. There are so many more worthwhile options in that price range...

JSA Matt · 08-09-2004, 09:25 PM

the Dodge dealership calls them 'disposable cars', but I suppose anything is better than that Honda you got

BradM · 08-09-2004, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
the Dodge dealership calls them 'disposable cars', but I suppose anything is better than that Honda you got

haha totally.

08-09-2004, 09:31 PM

Brad... You should know better than ask the GFY masses about a car buying decision. Unless it's an exotic car that 99.99999% of these people CAN'T afford, they'll bash it.

It's got a good warranty, good ratings.. If you like it, go for it.

Hell.. the majority of the people on this board rely on public transportation anyways.

BradM · 08-09-2004, 09:32 PM

Hahah I hear you Sherm. I was mostly looking for owners or people who know owners.

Not a bunch of morons. But hey, the morons help too.

Living For Today · 08-09-2004, 09:33 PM

I dont know about over there but in Australia Hyundai are the "home brand" car. Cheap reliable and get you from A to B but thats about all.

iwantchixx · 08-09-2004, 09:33 PM

i find they are a dangerous car. Sitting so damn low and no head room and not being able to see everything beside and behind you properly spells disaster. however, the car is very sporty and there is lots of leg room (due to ass being on the floor)

If you like the feeling of driving fast but hate speeding tickets you will love the car. At 65kph it feels like 110kph

There is fuck all for hatch room. Friend of mine has one and complains of never having enough room for his golf clubs. He also finds the 4 cyl version under powered. The paint also chips too damn easily.

iwantchixx · 08-09-2004, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
the Dodge dealership calls them 'disposable cars', but I suppose anything is better than that Honda you got

A dodge is a disposable car moreso than a Hyundai. I HATE Hyundai's but I'd rather have one than a Dodge.

You won't see any Dodge cars around the same age as Brad's Honda though

iwantchixx · 08-09-2004, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
How many of you guys have ever driven one of these? Hyundai has the best warranty in the business. Their cars are always top rated with Consumer Reports. You're not going to find another sporty little ride with a V6, leather, A/C, all power and a moonroof for the same $18k.

I give it a thumbs up Brad. But...you should know better than to ask here about cars that aren't BMWs, Ferraris or Porsches.

may have LONGEST warantee but not best

Read the fine print on what they actually cover. Anything serious and you WALK home.

JSA Matt · 08-09-2004, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
A dodge is a disposable car moreso than a Hyundai.

Somehow I highly doubt this... I have never seen a hyundai last on the road more than 4 months without frequent visits to the dealership.

iwantchixx · 08-09-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
What I do know for fact is that I sat in the back seat and it is made for Koreans. 5'7" is the warning max height for comfortable seating.

haha. Reminds me of the 91 fucking Civic my bro in law has. I'm 5'8" and I got home with bruised head

iwantchixx · 08-09-2004, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
Somehow I highly doubt this... I have never seen a hyundai last on the road more than 4 months without frequent visits to the dealership.

Nor have I ever seen a dodge do the same.

All american vehicles should be banned. period. A lot less landfill and gas used.

JSA Matt · 08-09-2004, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
Nor have I ever seen a dodge do the same.

All american vehicles should be banned. period. A lot less landfill and gas used.

So what dodge did you own that treated you so bad? I don't personally like dodge but you obviously have some grudge...

BradM · 08-09-2004, 09:46 PM

Fuck Ford. ;)

Dodge is a more reliable TRUCK anyways. From what I have seen on a personal level.

08-09-2004, 08:09 PM	#1
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Hyundai Tiburon? My buddy bought a 2004 model about 1.5 years ago or more now. He loved that damn car a lot. I liked it too. Rode nice.. looked slick decent on gas. Anyone own one or know anyone who owns one who has on one? Tuscani 5spd

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KeWLKaT Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: F-Town Posts: 130	Hyundai + Izusu = two rejected 'import' car models only females buy. __________________

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pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	Funny thing is that a lot of guys here ride that car all hooked up, and they swear they are the shit.

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT Guide Rating - 4 Stars out of 5 With a 172 hp V-6 up front, a taut 4-wheel independent suspension, and a no-nonsense fully-spec'd interior, Hyundai's Tiburon GT coupe means business. And it's got plenty of style to match. Price in the US starts at a very competitive $18,199. Warranty: 5 year, 50,000 mi. bumper-to-bumper; 10 year/100,000 mi. powertrain. First Glance What could be more pleasant on a warm summer's day than driving down shaded country lanes in a racy-looking sports coupe, with John Lennon's Strawberry Fields as mood-setter? That's how I began my test of the 2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT and it's the way I ended it, too, except that Lennon's music wasn't on the radio and I found myself waiting for a parade of beautiful vintage and classic automobiles, out for a club cruise, to pass by. As I stared at the owners in admiration and envy (I do dig vintage cars), they stared back at me, curious about this sleek black beauty which they couldn't quite put a name to. Nor, it seemed, could anyone else, for the car attracted admiring yet quizzical glances wherever I went. Actually our test vehicle is owned by a friend who was so eager to have me review his Tiburon that he was willing to sacrifice it for a week and take his chances with these cynical critiques. (Too late now, Ralph!) A Dutchman of good humor, he gets such a kick out of watching confused onlookers doing walkarounds that he had the dealer remove all external identification except for one mysterious logo on the trunk. No, Ralph doesn't give out prizes for the best guess. Unfortunately the Tiburon's styling follows a trend to high waistlines and narrow windows. The Audi TT is one example, so's the Chrysler 300. This may look racy but it leads to a claustrophobic environment and when combined with the Tiburon's high cowl and low seating, poor sightlines. An all-black interior doesn't help, though for 2004 Hyundai added aluminum pedals which, with the faux-titanium trim currently in vogue, breaks the monotony. But what were they thinking of with those instruments? Seven dials altogether, four up front, three in the console, none of them large enough to be read at a glance. Sorry to say this, but warning lights would have sufficed. The GT's seats follow best driving practise, well-bolstered to keep driver and passenger in place. Adjustment, though comprehensive, is manual. To be honest, I found the seats too firm but maybe that's my advancing years talking. The rear seat is meant only for kids and that's okay; the Tiburon is a 2+2, not a family hack. If we gave awards for sunroofs, however, I'd rate the Tuburon's a 10-out-of-10, for this is one of the very few that can be opened without interior buffeting or annoying drafts, regardless of whether the windows are open or closed. On the Road With 172 hp and 181 lbs. ft. of torque, the GT's sweet-sounding V-6 doesn't disappoint. Acceleration from rest and passing power are both more than adequate for fun driving. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the GT's power-to-weight ratio is right on the cusp for front-wheel-drive sports coupes. Torque-steer is evident the moment one floors the gas pedal and continues as the car leaps forward; the Tiburon should come with a warning sign advising drivers to "keep both hands on the wheel and pay attention." Come to think of it, so should the competition. The 5-speed manual (6-speed is an option with the GT) is fitted with superbly-matched ratios that keep engine revs in the sweet spot; unfortunately it lacks the slick smoothness of even a Honda Civic. Changing gears requires effort, as does the steering which, though moderately quick, needs muscle. In all, I'd say this is a car with a heavy feel to the controls, like a 1950's sports car. But also, like a 50's sports car, it can be hustled through the curves, using a combination of understeer and induced oversteer for perfect control. The price, then and now, is a firm ride that's just fine on smooth asphalt but disturbing when the terrain gets rough. Forgive me if I seem condescending, but the owner of this 2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT perfectly reflects one half of its target market. Ralph is a good-looking guy in his late 50's, a former 707 pilot who likes to maintain a youthful image. He lives by a mountain lake reached by an endlessly-curving road. Each day he leaves home at 5:00 AM to start baking at his Sidney, BC, coffee shop, 45-minutes to the south. Roughly half his trip is on winding roads, the rest on a 4-lane highway. At that hour he has the roads to himself. The drive in the Tiburon is pure joy. And should he need to load up the trunk with supplies for the shop, the hatch-type trunk and 50/50 split-folding rear seat offers plenty of space. He loves his Tiburon. So, for different reasons, will the 25-35 year-old Hyundai hopes to captivate. Ralph's buddy (me) struggled to get in and out of the tight cockpit, could barely reach the opened trunk lid, worked harder than he liked to drive this car at its limits. Before you buy a Tiburon, decide on your priorities: if appearance and driving fun, regardless of effort or discomfort, is your goal, here's your car. Be comforted by that generous warranty. http://cars.about.com/od/sportcoupes...buron_test.htm __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	What I do know for fact is that I sat in the back seat and it is made for Koreans. 5'7" is the warning max height for comfortable seating.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	No worries folks. Brian is buying me a bimmer.

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	How many of you guys have ever driven one of these? Hyundai has the best warranty in the business. Their cars are always top rated with Consumer Reports. You're not going to find another sporty little ride with a V6, leather, A/C, all power and a moonroof for the same $18k. I give it a thumbs up Brad. But...you should know better than to ask here about cars that aren't BMWs, Ferraris or Porsches. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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Mcarlsen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mn Posts: 210	You openly admit you like a tiburon. Shit I don't even know how to spell the name of that piece. Get a real car bitch, like a corvette or a viper. Last edited by Mcarlsen; 08-09-2004 at 09:13 PM..

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,115	The V6 is really dull to drive, and the 6 speed tranny is mostly a marketing trick. Honestly I think it'd be a downgrade from your CRX. There are so many more worthwhile options in that price range...

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JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	the Dodge dealership calls them 'disposable cars', but I suppose anything is better than that Honda you got

08-09-2004, 09:31 PM	#33
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Brad... You should know better than ask the GFY masses about a car buying decision. Unless it's an exotic car that 99.99999% of these people CAN'T afford, they'll bash it. It's got a good warranty, good ratings.. If you like it, go for it. Hell.. the majority of the people on this board rely on public transportation anyways.

08-09-2004, 09:32 PM	#34
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Hahah I hear you Sherm. I was mostly looking for owners or people who know owners. Not a bunch of morons. But hey, the morons help too.

08-09-2004, 09:33 PM	#35
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	I dont know about over there but in Australia Hyundai are the "home brand" car. Cheap reliable and get you from A to B but thats about all.

08-09-2004, 09:33 PM	#36
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	i find they are a dangerous car. Sitting so damn low and no head room and not being able to see everything beside and behind you properly spells disaster. however, the car is very sporty and there is lots of leg room (due to ass being on the floor) If you like the feeling of driving fast but hate speeding tickets you will love the car. At 65kph it feels like 110kph There is fuck all for hatch room. Friend of mine has one and complains of never having enough room for his golf clubs. He also finds the 4 cyl version under powered. The paint also chips too damn easily.

08-09-2004, 09:46 PM	#43
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Fuck Ford. ;) Dodge is a more reliable TRUCK anyways. From what I have seen on a personal level.