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Old 08-09-2004, 12:26 PM   #2
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Why is it people with money are easily fooled into investing with people with no money.

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Old 08-09-2004, 12:28 PM   #3
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People with no money have great business ideas?
talking about me, lol?
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:29 PM   #4
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Why is it people with money are easily fooled into investing with people with no money.

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because you hope that when they say

"All I need is 50k and I can turn it into 60k a month in 3 months"

they mean that

meanwhile in 3 months the money is gone if they did not vanish they ask for more money and lets not forget if they are programmers they will say "well its taking a bit longer because I have alot of code to debug" all bullshit the same way with the debugging shit

some people have so much opportunity but they are fuckin lazy fucks and they will stay poor forever unless they decide to fuckin WORK
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:31 PM   #5
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talking about me, lol?
nah just after years of listeing to different ventures, it was always the poorest guy with a family of 9 that had great ideas.

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Keep the cash and write the checks that are needed, 1 missed deadline and cut the funding off, ALWAYS FUCKIN WORKS
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:33 PM   #6
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Thats because they sit there for a whole day trying to figure out how they are going to make money.
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:34 PM   #7
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because you hope that when they say

"All I need is 50k and I can turn it into 60k a month in 3 months"

they mean that

meanwhile in 3 months the money is gone if they did not vanish they ask for more money and lets not forget if they are programmers they will say "well its taking a bit longer because I have alot of code to debug" all bullshit the same way with the debugging shit

some people have so much opportunity but they are fuckin lazy fucks and they will stay poor forever unless they decide to fuckin WORK

I know this situation all too well...
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:34 PM   #8
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People with no money have great business ideas?
They have more time to dream because they aren't busy working?
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:34 PM   #9
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:34 PM   #10
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Thats because they sit there for a whole day trying to figure out how they are going to make money.
ideas dont come when you sit and think about it, they come when you are taking a piss and your cock gets stuck in the zipper, and bammm a great idea came to mind the velcro
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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:43 PM   #12
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ideas dont come when you sit and think about it, they come when you are taking a piss and your cock gets stuck in the zipper, and bammm a great idea came to mind the velcro
Very true EB. All my best ideas have come that way.
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:44 PM   #13
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ideas dont come when you sit and think about it, they come when you are taking a piss and your cock gets stuck in the zipper, and bammm a great idea came to mind the velcro
I agree , all my ideas come when i am in the bathroom reading Maxim mag or something. I keep a pen and pad in there and right it down so i dont forget.
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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.
yup, and it can be sticky getting both sides of that equation
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:44 PM   #15
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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.
and when you have a partner 99% of the time you end up dead or in court

Id rather come up with shitty ideas that wont make me that much then deal with a partner

Plus with the net there are so many half done idea floating around, I picked one up 2 years ago and it made me a nice penny.

Yeah I stold someones half done project
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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.
This is an honest truth.
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I agree , all my ideas come when i am in the bathroom reading Maxim mag or something. I keep a pen and pad in there and right it down so i dont forget.
same here, I have a pad and pen in the bathroom....best ideas come when you're on the crapper because (generally) no one is disturbing you and there aren't a lot of distractions...
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Well I think it's a number of things.
1) The person without the needed funds, has time to rethink and go over the plan until somewhat perfected.
2) The person without the needed funds, probably does not know first hand what it's like to loose wads of cash in a sour business deal thus his ideas are more wild and open.

- A person with the needed funds, will probably not think up crazy business plans which would risk his/her name, buisness or bank account.

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I agree , all my ideas come when i am in the bathroom reading Maxim mag or something. I keep a pen and pad in there and right it down so i dont forget.
Now all you need to do is make a big pile of maxim mags and eat at mickey d's a few times a day and you will have 1000's of ideas

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Now all you need to do is make a big pile of maxim mags and eat at mickey d's a few times a day and you will have 1000's of ideas

hehe I think Taco Bell would be better. That would make me stay in the bathroom much longer longer
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:49 PM   #21
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When you have money you dont have to think as much about how to get rich... you know it will happen eventually though savings, investments, etc. The poor people come up with ideas that can make them millions overnight, because they dont have the luxury of saving $1000 a month for 30 years.
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People with no money have great business ideas?
because they are the smartest people, all the do is sit fucking around and think, on the other hand, people with money dont have time to fucking think!
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Plus the guys who have money most likely did not have to do anything to get it. Was given to them through family, inheritence, or just plain luck.
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Why is it people with money are easily fooled into investing with people with no money.

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ideas dont come when you sit and think about it, they come when you are taking a piss and your cock gets stuck in the zipper, and bammm a great idea came to mind the velcro
I disagree, all my great ideas come to me when I am faced with a problem, or I see a problem with something.

I am still disciplining that portion of myself though that KRL just referred to about cultivating those ideas for profit.

It's usually the easiest ideas that cost the most btw.

I had a wonderful idea for home entertainment via PPV & recurring membership but the technology is'nt *quite* at an affordable level yet to be accessible by joe schmoe.
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Because they have had plenty of time to sit around and think of ways to make money if they had any.
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Always remember that "no money" could very well mean "no money yet". People have to start somewhere, after all
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Because they are more worried about their future than having a nice car?
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because you hope that when they say

"All I need is 50k and I can turn it into 60k a month in 3 months"

they mean that

meanwhile in 3 months the money is gone if they did not vanish they ask for more money and lets not forget if they are programmers they will say "well its taking a bit longer because I have alot of code to debug" all bullshit the same way with the debugging shit

some people have so much opportunity but they are fuckin lazy fucks and they will stay poor forever unless they decide to fuckin WORK
how did you get rich?
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The guys with ideas that eventually MAKE lots of money are much much better investors, advisors, and board members.

The guys I've had on board who inherited money or were in the right place at the right time were worse than useless to me.
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I couldn't stop thinking about this question

And I found the answer

When you got money, you become lazy. You often become more conservative too .
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I disagree, all my great ideas come to me when I am faced with a problem, or I see a problem with something.

you are agreeing

the ideas dont come when you sit down and say let me come up with an idea

you either think about somethin else, or get into a problem etc
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Always remember that "no money" could very well mean "no money yet". People have to start somewhere, after all
After investing in many mostly small ventures I figured out that some people will never have money and they wont even win a lotto because they are too lazy to buy one.

Yeah once in a while I come across a guy thats so fuckin motivated and has a no bullshit attitude and when he tells me he will have a demo in 10 days he has it in 5 I do anything to see how I can make money with him.
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The guys with ideas that eventually MAKE lots of money are much much better investors, advisors, and board members.

The guys I've had on board who inherited money or were in the right place at the right time were worse than useless to me.
most people here and most people who made it worked their tails off
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you are agreeing

the ideas dont come when you sit down and say let me come up with an idea

you either think about somethin else, or get into a problem etc
I spose you're right, I agree.

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I couldn't stop thinking about this question

And I found the answer

When you got money, you become lazy. You often become more conservative too .
The lazy thing is very true, reminds me of the recent article about google about how once all these people become millionaires what effect it will have on their work ethics

Read this link

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2004/mft04080902.htm
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I spose you're right, I agree.

EDIT: btw, your escort sites did terrific for me when I pushed them.
thanks man appreciate that!!!
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The lazy thing is very true, reminds me of the recent article about google about how once all these people become millionaires what effect it will have on their work ethics

Read this link

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2004/mft04080902.htm
yeah, i thought about that too a while ago

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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.
yep. Poor people have ideas, but rich people turn those ideas into money. That's how it works...
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yep. Poor people have ideas, but rich people turn those ideas into money. That's how it works...
...by stealing them from the poor
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yep. Poor people have ideas, but rich people turn those ideas into money. That's how it works...
many rich people have turned good ideas into shit too
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nah just after years of listeing to different ventures, it was always the poorest guy with a family of 9 that had great ideas.

Tip for investors

Keep the cash and write the checks that are needed, 1 missed deadline and cut the funding off, ALWAYS FUCKIN WORKS
As a site owner you don't have to partner with someone. Assuming the person who has the idea produces the content. You pay this person/group to produce the content and maybe a small percetage of the site sales as long as they shoot the site.
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As a site owner you don't have to partner with someone. Assuming the person who has the idea produces the content. You pay this person/group to produce the content and maybe a small percetage of the site sales as long as they shoot the site.
I pay 1k for ideas and do it myself, partners are designed to take a bite out of your life and peace of mind
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Read again. I agree with you. If i had a great idea for a site and could produce it, taking it to a site owner would be a possible step in the right direction for an idea to become a reality. I'd get paid to produce the content and the site owner would be responible for making the site successful.
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Like i said before people just sit around ,and think how to make money.
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Read again. I agree with you. If i had a great idea for a site and could produce it, taking it to a site owner would be a possible step in the right direction for an idea to become a reality. I'd get paid to produce the content and the site owner would be responible for making the site successful.
now i get it, agree
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I think its because the stress of actually being able to implement the idea and having to really think about the logistics of the project, impede your creativity
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:38 PM   #50
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Because there are basically two types of businessmen.

One knows how to come up with ideas.

The other knows how to make money with the ideas.

When you combine the two you can build a great company.

I don't have just ideas, but visions of revshare domination. I've been told it's not possible to compete with the big boys. I say bullshit. Enough money to shoot enough of the right content certainly leaves the possibility of a huge successful site.

I figure once I start shooting four days a week and have 50k set aside then I'll feel that i've earned a chance to sit down with someone who has money and experience in this buisness.
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