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Theo · 08-06-2004, 02:23 AM

inquiring minds want to know

herbal logic · 08-06-2004, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
inquiring minds want to know

just being honest, no offense to stupid surfers that will signup. You can downlod the entire mebers area in 20min. True dissapointement.

Only people that post around gfy that have quality shit is ftv, allinternal, asstraffic, AOP, and EB's sites. Ive missed a few sites im sure.

Nothing is more dperessing to a surfer than getting to a members area and finding jack shit. Or getting some bs pass to 20 sites thats consist of nadda.

People need to step up with quality and stop jacking people around.

woj · 08-06-2004, 02:52 AM

What's reality cash? url?

MrJackMeHoff · 08-06-2004, 02:53 AM

teomaxxx · 08-06-2004, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by herbal logic
You can downlod the entire mebers area in 20min. True dissapointement.

thats the way how to beat Nasty dollars for sure.

TheMob · 08-06-2004, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by woj
What's reality cash? url?

www.realitycash.com

you guys should remember that it's a very new program.

if you have ideas to improve it, drop Lensman an email.

i'm sure he'll appreaciate it.

xclusive · 08-06-2004, 03:02 AM

I just signed up with them tonight and look forward to promoting them sure they don't have the huge library of content because they just launched on the 2nd but they have the quality and will soon enough have the quantity...

Theo · 08-06-2004, 03:04 AM

An honest opinion is always welcomed.

I haven't seen the new members areas, but I'll tell you this. I saw two members areas from adult.com, the one was for playboy and the other for Amateur Pages. The playboy one was a dissapointment, but I can understand you can't provide more than you receive. The AP one was really good with a lot of exclusive content during a period not many sites were proving exclusive sets.

Lensman said he has ready over 100 reality episodes for updates. I can assume this will give more value to the members areas over time. In 2004 you can't trick members like in the past and no doubt Lensman knows that. Time will tell.

what site is AOP?

thanks

bigdog · 08-06-2004, 03:09 AM

i haven't seen the inside of the realiycash members areas, but ther is another sponsor whose vidoes in the members areas are the same quality as their video trailers. You got to be kidding me

herbal logic · 08-06-2004, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by TheMob?
www.realitycash.com

you guys should remember that it's a very new program.

if you have ideas to improve it, drop Lensman an email.

i'm sure he'll appreaciate it.

agreed.

You know what be super hot, just IMO, a paysite that charges 99.95 a month and delivers every last cent of it. The type of site members are biting their finger nails at work because they're not sure if their membership renewed.

Im speaking hot chicks. No cumdumpsters.

Build an entire site over a few years before showing a single soul.

Trials are now a turnoff. every idiot knows. Charge a high price and deliver. ever get a trial to a night club? Make people type-in your domain its so hot. A country club of porn

bluff · 08-06-2004, 03:38 AM

what's EB?

SGx · 08-06-2004, 03:51 AM

and about conversions ?

about content, if there is not much, but regular updates, it s better for member retention i guess

Jer · 08-06-2004, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
what's EB?

EscortBiz ( www.tushycash.com )

Anna_O · 08-06-2004, 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

what site is AOP?

Wondering this too...

Was actually going to sign up to realitycash tonight and start promoting them. Good thread Soul_Rebel.

Other sites with great content in their memberes areas are the DDF and 21sextury sites.

Mikey_219Inc · 08-06-2004, 04:12 AM

The innovators have just released a new site ... make some real $$$ like i do ;)

New Site "Brown and Round" Ooooooh Yeah ;)

Anna_O · 08-06-2004, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
The innovators have just released a new site ... make some real $$$ like i do ;)

New Site "Brown and Round" Ooooooh Yeah ;)

Yeah, ND are still kings of reality porn.

Mikey_219Inc · 08-06-2004, 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by Anna_O
Wondering this too...

Was actually going to sign up to realitycash tonight and start promoting them. Good thread Soul_Rebel.

Other sites with great content in their memberes areas are the DDF and 21sextury sites.

Im good friends with Sandy at 21st sextury - they work their ASSES off to update every day ... you can bet your ass they have some kick ass members areas

If you havent tried em, http://www.21stsextury.com/webmasters/

Ive tried to get Sandy on GFY but the truth is she is producing shit DAILY ... busy little beaver.

kush · 08-06-2004, 04:20 AM

only aop I know is Angles of Porn, and it's a good site

Anna_O · 08-06-2004, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
Im good friends with Sandy at 21st sextury - they work their ASSES off to update every day ... you can bet your ass they have some kick ass members areas

If you havent tried em, http://www.21stsextury.com/webmasters/

Ive tried to get Sandy on GFY but the truth is she is producing shit DAILY ... busy little beaver.

Yeah, we allready promote them

It's not like we buy memberships to pornsites

One thing though is their webmaster interface that really needs to be upgraded. We'd put lots more traffic that way then...

herbal logic · 08-06-2004, 04:23 AM

AOP is angels of porn, sorry, a decent site.

I have seen very few sites on gfy qualify as superb. The best sites let content speak for itself.

It is one thing to manipulate webamsters into promoting a load a crap, entirely another thing to make a webmaster passionate about what hes doing.

herbal logic · 08-06-2004, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
Im good friends with Sandy at 21st sextury - they work their ASSES off to update every day ... you can bet your ass they have some kick ass members areas

If you havent tried em, http://www.21stsextury.com/webmasters/

Ive tried to get Sandy on GFY but the truth is she is producing shit DAILY ... busy little beaver.

yep. thank you for posting that.

Mikey_219Inc · 08-06-2004, 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by Anna_O
Yeah, we allready promote them It's not like we buy memberships to pornsites

One thing though is their webmaster interface that really needs to be upgraded. We'd put lots more traffic that way then...

send em your suggestions - or send em to me and ill tell sandy.

mb (AT) 219inc d0t c0m

Anna_O · 08-06-2004, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
send em your suggestions - or send em to me and ill tell sandy.

mb (AT) 219inc d0t c0m

Did talk a lot with Gero on ICQ when they launched about it. He's said an improved webmaster interface is on the way every time since then

Think we'll hit him up tonight for a chat...

gazool · 08-06-2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by woj
What's reality cash? url?

You are kidding!?!?

herbal logic · 08-06-2004, 04:38 AM

http://www.pixandvideo.com/

http://www.1by-day.com/

proper ammount of exclusive content to justify a high monthly fee. People are on to the bs.

pop-up hell may increase your bottom line, but that does nothing for word of mouth and pr.

www.huntingforbambi.com

pornstar2pac · 08-06-2004, 05:25 AM

the way Lensman has the videos set up and the design is awesome.

http · 08-06-2004, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by herbal logic
http://www.pixandvideo.com/

http://www.1by-day.com/

proper ammount of exclusive content to justify a high monthly fee. People are on to the bs.

pop-up hell may increase your bottom line, but that does nothing for word of mouth and pr.

www.huntingforbambi.com

1byday has excellent content but traffic leaks left and right.

Those good content sites often have. I am not going to give them any freebies. Ibill signup "options" on ccbill affiliate links. Yeah right. Would be easy to have all their crap on the root domain and set up a leak free, dialer free, ibill free, sextracker & paycounter free, mirror in a directory or subdomain.

These programs just aren't ready yet for the affiliate business. They do not appreciate the affiliates enough. Sending my pay site traffic to a site that has a huge ass sextracker banner right in the middle of the page? Don't think so...

digital · 08-06-2004, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
inquiring minds want to know

conversions are very good on TGP traffic, around 1:200-250

You must try to promote their sites

Regards,
KD

Taboo · 08-06-2004, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by herbal logic
agreed.

You know what be super hot, just IMO, a paysite that charges 99.95 a month and delivers every last cent of it. The type of site members are biting their finger nails at work because they're not sure if their membership renewed.

Im speaking hot chicks. No cumdumpsters.

Build an entire site over a few years before showing a single soul.

Trials are now a turnoff. every idiot knows. Charge a high price and deliver. ever get a trial to a night club? Make people type-in your domain its so hot. A country club of porn

I agree to an extent. I like your train of thought. make it for example a VIP CLUB (what a great name/domain that would be)

that everyone wants to be a member of, in fact send them a vip club card that's good at events/promotions/parties/contests/nightclubs, etc. And you need exclusive content, plus celebrity status/partnership (B/C LIST) would be great. But taking years to build it... that's the risky/sticky part. And it doesn't even need to be focused on hardcore porn. Something members might be proud to wear on a tshirt. Maybe not even porn, maybe something walking the fine line between mainstream & adult, maxim meets playboy, etc...

ahh.. wishful thinking.

but hopefully @ $99/month, it's not chargeback hell

JerseyPuma · 08-06-2004, 07:07 AM

I havent actually been inside the members areas, so maybe im wrong...and this was probably already talked about on here if its the case. but is it true that if a surfer joins on a trial membership then he only gets a couple vids when he enters the members area? and then is asked to upgrade to monthly in order to receive the rest of the vids on the site?

i could be totally wrong here...but if its true, that would be a new approach to things....

woj · 08-06-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by gazool
You are kidding!?!?

of course ;-)

Doctor Dre · 08-06-2004, 12:15 PM

Allinternal don't have a member aera THAT big ... it's downloadable in a 3 day trial too

Theo · 08-06-2004, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by JerseyPuma

i could be totally wrong here...but if its true, that would be a new approach to things....

JerseyPuma, that's what ARS was doing in their old sites. Surfers were getting limited access to an episode let's say of milfsearch.com and they had to upgrade for the rest. I think it's a interesting approach.

Donny · 08-06-2004, 12:26 PM

I'm sure the content on the sites will increase with time, and the members will take quality over quantity for now.

But let me put in a plug for myself real quick:

DonnysGirls.com has 35,000 images in 600 sets and has a new set added 5 times per week. And I shoot my own content.

AmateurMarket.net has over 40,000 images and is updated daily, 7 days a week.

Check out DonnysMoney.com and give it a try.

Elli · 08-06-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Taboo
I agree to an extent. I like your train of thought. make it for example a VIP CLUB (what a great name/domain that would be) that everyone wants to be a member of, in fact send them a vip club card that's good at events/promotions/parties/contests/nightclubs, etc. And you need exclusive content, plus celebrity status/partnership (B/C LIST) would be great. But taking years to build it... that's the risky/sticky part. And it doesn't even need to be focused on hardcore porn. Something members might be proud to wear on a tshirt. Maybe not even porn, maybe something walking the fine line between mainstream & adult, maxim meets playboy, etc...

ahh.. wishful thinking.

but hopefully @ $99/month, it's not chargeback hell

Sounds a bit like Playboy in its heydey, what with the clubs and branding and all. 99$ a shot though? That's a hell of an impulse buy.

ATL_Ryan · 08-06-2004, 01:14 PM

I'll be sending 50 to 100 k clicks to RealityCash sites over the next week. 5 different sites. I'm curious as to what results I'll get. Should be at least a couple grand. Conversions should stay below 1:500 for satisfaction. Traffic will start flowing at Midnight tonight. I might post results depending on which way they go.

Giorgio_Xo · 08-06-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by CJ_Ryan
I'll be sending 50 to 100 k clicks to RealityCash sites over the next week. 5 different sites. I'm curious as to what results I'll get. Should be at least a couple grand. Conversions should stay below 1:500 for satisfaction. Traffic will start flowing at Midnight tonight. I might post results depending on which way they go.

Dang. This I have to see.

korzon · 08-06-2004, 01:29 PM

killahoe · 08-06-2004, 01:36 PM

freeporno.Zu5.net

stocktrader23 · 08-06-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Sounds a bit like Playboy in its heydey, what with the clubs and branding and all. 99$ a shot though? That's a hell of an impulse buy.

I've successfuly billed $25 weekly trials to a $65 monthy rebills on simple cam sites. It's all in the approach.

Horny Dude · 08-06-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by CJ_Ryan
I'll be sending 50 to 100 k clicks to RealityCash sites over the next week. 5 different sites. I'm curious as to what results I'll get. Should be at least a couple grand. Conversions should stay below 1:500 for satisfaction. Traffic will start flowing at Midnight tonight. I might post results depending on which way they go.

Yeah post them up , would be great to see!

bigdog · 08-06-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by JerseyPuma
I havent actually been inside the members areas, so maybe im wrong...and this was probably already talked about on here if its the case. but is it true that if a surfer joins on a trial membership then he only gets a couple vids when he enters the members area? and then is asked to upgrade to monthly in order to receive the rest of the vids on the site?

i could be totally wrong here...but if its true, that would be a new approach to things....

other sponsors have been doing that for some time now

Anna_O · 08-06-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by http
1byday has excellent content but traffic leaks left and right.

Those good content sites often have. I am not going to give them any freebies. Ibill signup "options" on ccbill affiliate links. Yeah right. Would be easy to have all their crap on the root domain and set up a leak free, dialer free, ibill free, sextracker & paycounter free, mirror in a directory or subdomain.

These programs just aren't ready yet for the affiliate business. They do not appreciate the affiliates enough. Sending my pay site traffic to a site that has a huge ass sextracker banner right in the middle of the page? Don't think so...

Where do you see the sextracker banner?

HarlotCash Dyker · 08-06-2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyPuma
I havent actually been inside the members areas, so maybe im wrong...and this was probably already talked about on here if its the case. but is it true that if a surfer joins on a trial membership then he only gets a couple vids when he enters the members area? and then is asked to upgrade to monthly in order to receive the rest of the vids on the site?

i could be totally wrong here...but if its true, that would be a new approach to things....

I tried this about 2 years ago and my cb ratio went skywards -
I have tried free trial and cheap trials -
I now get the same amount of joins asking for monthly payments only -

Content only is King - Not fantastic tours and empty wardobes. That has proved in the past to be a killer for this industry, and it seems no one is learning that fact.

HarlotCash Dyker · 08-06-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
I tried this about 2 years ago and my cb ratio went skywards -
I have tried free trial and cheap trials -
I now get the same amount of joins asking for monthly payments only -

Content only is King - Not fantastic tours and empty wardrobes. That has proved in the past to be a killer for this industry, and it seems no one is learning that fact.

SGx · 08-07-2004, 02:24 PM

so, anyone has some real ratios ?

Taboo · 08-07-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
I've successfuly billed $25 weekly trials to a $65 monthy rebills on simple cam sites. It's all in the approach.

agreed.

I don't plan on charging $99/month for all members. i'm letting the members decide which membership they want. I even have a site that's $1 a month, $5 month, etc. target marketing, presentation, that's all. its my job to make sure content stream never runs dry.

kush · 08-07-2004, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
I tried this about 2 years ago and my cb ratio went skywards -
I have tried free trial and cheap trials -
I now get the same amount of joins asking for monthly payments only -

Content only is King - Not fantastic tours and empty wardobes. That has proved in the past to be a killer for this industry, and it seems no one is learning that fact.

Here, you need somebody else besides yourself to quote you.

nice post

ErhardtEckbert · 01-23-2006, 10:08 AM

Hello,

about the traffic leaks: we're using the latest NATS so on AdPayout you can track ALL of your traffic in real-time. There is no leak like on 1byday sites!
Another advantage is our paysite structure: full-site-previews, daily updates available both at www.eveangel.com and www.myadiamond.com also.

BigCashCrew · 01-23-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ErhardtEckbert

Hello,

about the traffic leaks: we're using the latest NATS so on AdPayout you can track ALL of your traffic in real-time. There is no leak like on 1byday sites!
Another advantage is our paysite structure: full-site-previews, daily updates available both at www.eveangel.com and www.myadiamond.com also.

Huh ?????

08-06-2004, 02:23 AM	#1
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	How are you doing with reality cash so far? inquiring minds want to know

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08-06-2004, 03:04 AM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	An honest opinion is always welcomed. I haven't seen the new members areas, but I'll tell you this. I saw two members areas from adult.com, the one was for playboy and the other for Amateur Pages. The playboy one was a dissapointment, but I can understand you can't provide more than you receive. The AP one was really good with a lot of exclusive content during a period not many sites were proving exclusive sets. Lensman said he has ready over 100 reality episodes for updates. I can assume this will give more value to the members areas over time. In 2004 you can't trick members like in the past and no doubt Lensman knows that. Time will tell. what site is AOP? thanks Last edited by Theo; 08-06-2004 at 03:06 AM..

08-06-2004, 03:09 AM	#9
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i haven't seen the inside of the realiycash members areas, but ther is another sponsor whose vidoes in the members areas are the same quality as their video trailers. You got to be kidding me

08-06-2004, 03:38 AM	#11
bluff Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bluffville Posts: 6,253	what's EB?

08-06-2004, 03:51 AM	#12
SGx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 282	and about conversions ? about content, if there is not much, but regular updates, it s better for member retention i guess

08-06-2004, 04:12 AM	#15
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	The innovators have just released a new site ... make some real $$$ like i do ;) New Site "Brown and Round" Ooooooh Yeah ;) __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

08-06-2004, 04:20 AM	#18
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	only aop I know is Angles of Porn, and it's a good site

08-06-2004, 04:23 AM	#20
herbal logic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,172	AOP is angels of porn, sorry, a decent site. I have seen very few sites on gfy qualify as superb. The best sites let content speak for itself. It is one thing to manipulate webamsters into promoting a load a crap, entirely another thing to make a webmaster passionate about what hes doing.

08-06-2004, 04:38 AM	#25
herbal logic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,172	http://www.pixandvideo.com/ http://www.1by-day.com/ proper ammount of exclusive content to justify a high monthly fee. People are on to the bs. pop-up hell may increase your bottom line, but that does nothing for word of mouth and pr. www.huntingforbambi.com

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JerseyPuma Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,149	I havent actually been inside the members areas, so maybe im wrong...and this was probably already talked about on here if its the case. but is it true that if a surfer joins on a trial membership then he only gets a couple vids when he enters the members area? and then is asked to upgrade to monthly in order to receive the rest of the vids on the site? i could be totally wrong here...but if its true, that would be a new approach to things.... __________________ LOVERCASH.COM good dating sites.

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I'm sure the content on the sites will increase with time, and the members will take quality over quantity for now. But let me put in a plug for myself real quick: DonnysGirls.com has 35,000 images in 600 sets and has a new set added 5 times per week. And I shoot my own content. AmateurMarket.net has over 40,000 images and is updated daily, 7 days a week. Check out DonnysMoney.com and give it a try.

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ATL_Ryan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,519	I'll be sending 50 to 100 k clicks to RealityCash sites over the next week. 5 different sites. I'm curious as to what results I'll get. Should be at least a couple grand. Conversions should stay below 1:500 for satisfaction. Traffic will start flowing at Midnight tonight. I might post results depending on which way they go.

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SGx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 282	so, anyone has some real ratios ?

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