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If you consider promoting PerfectionCash
Then don't. If you promote them then you'll knowingly work with known cheaters and will send a message to all thieves that it's OK to fuck honest webmasters out of payment, as long as they come back and apologize for it. Not to mention that they'll most likely do it again and fuck you over as well. Once a thief, always a thief. Be sensible about this one, rip their heads off and shit down their necks!
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I was gonna send'm some quality traffic but FUCK"M sorry aint cutting it for me, once a cheater always a fucking cheater/wife beater
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The thread we already have going on this is perfectly fine.
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I bet you're one of those people who after someone does their time in jail keeps after them 'till you can get them back in there
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if you're dumb enough to trust your money to a known cheater you deserve whatever you get.
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I have no issues with pornkings but I am still not going to promote those sites. I just don't think it's the right thing to do. If the old owner was totally out of the picture then it would be a diffrent story. However from the looks of it he is doing more than just taking pictures.
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I never claimed to had done nothing wrong.... how could I? Mistakes were made. Please read my post. Anyways, there is no way I can cheat. I do not run anything with any of the finanicals with Perfection Cash. I do not run or control the ccbill stats.. I have nothing to do with any of it other then to shoot content and promote them. Thats it. Pornkings manages the entire thing. Even if I wanted to cheat (which I dont nore did I ever have a diliberate desire to do) I couldnt. I do not have controls over any part of it. I shoot content and promote it. It is totally managed by Pornkings. I did not expect my public apology yesterday to be a one time, fix all statement where everyone would come running back. Im not a fool. ![]() Time will tell if we are on the right track or not. We know we are, but we dont expect everyone to see things the way we do. Proof is in he pudding guys. If we are not paying people and if people are not getting there rebills it will be very clear and broadcasted all over the world in a matter of weeks, We know this will not happen. Sales have tripled since all this new broke 8 months ago. Affilaites have been getting paid on time, everytime. Every last rebill has been paid also. We have over tripled our traffic since last Jan annd have grown every month since. Aug will be a record month for us. Right now, Aug 4th... we are only 200 sales behind what we did in July (last month) and our July was huge. Like I said, my statement was not a "Im really sorry so send me your traffic" It was a sincere apology for mistakes made. If you dont want to send us traffic, cool, I totally understand. The people that are and have restarted with be the folks that prove our good intentions. Thanks for your comments. Jeff
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Ok you got 2 choices :
Promote an ex-scammer (shaver) Promote a honest sponsor That's your choice then ... we all know pornking won't fuck you up but do you want him to have a cut of your money ? |
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Roger told me he doesn't get any money off the sites in Pornkings so thats what i promote. the new $5.99 a month sites for the perfection girls is awsome
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Our stats for yesterday were 1:185 over the entire program. Thats the ratios of 8 sites conbined We have earned affiliates nearly $11,000 already this month and its just the 4th. Some might not want to push us... thats fine and we understand, but the ones that are... are cashing in huge. ![]() Thanks FUCKuPAYme ![]()
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![]() Its been laid out and we have been up front and honest about what happened. Not one person has come forward saying that we didnt take care of everything we needed to. If you can really send traffic and make sales.... awesome, we will hook you up and make sure you are taken care of in grand fashion. We want your business and will do whatever it takes to get it. Roger knows his shit and has been doing this for 9 years. Longer then most anyone. If he said you are going to get paid, then you will. I have to earn trust... he does not.. and Roger has been earning it for years. Let do this.. send us traffic... either PPS or Revshare... if we fuck you.. tell everyone. If you convert (which you will) and then, you are paid and taken care of.. tell that also. Seems fair... be our test. There is an Ipod in it for ya... We will not let good intentions go un-rewared. Jeff
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I've tried to disscuss it like an adult. But you keep talking shit. I've given out my 800# so anyone could call me like an adult if they had issues and not talk shit on the boards. so who's the adult? I've helped out many people in this industry. If your clients have traffic I'm sure they are already doing buisness with me so I'm not worried. List a few people in the biz who can back up your rep. so I can call them how long have you been in this industry? I've been in this Industry for a long time almost 9 years now and I'm still around for many reasons. Just ask anyone So please do not talk shit about Perfection cash I bet you didn't even get fucked by Jeff or know anyone personally who did other then reading it on the board. But incase I am wrong please call me and we will resolve it. 800-230-1255 During work hours
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Ya know, if you were personally effected by what happened then cool... lets talk, work it it out and make everyone happy. Thing is... you never sent one click to us. You have no idea if we pay or if we dont. You use board drama to make you business decisions. Sad, to say the least. We fucked up and we came clean on what happened. We dont expect for things to heal with just one post, but we also dont expect for people to stir the pot and make up drama just to keep some "friends" happy. Look... send your masses of traffic If we fuck you and you dont get paid, I will shut the doors of Pcash myself. We will take you for your word that you are as honest as you set yourself up to be. So if what you say is true about us... you can have us shut down in a week. If not... you get a big fat check every week in the mail. Whats it going to be?
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everyone makes mistakes and everyone is entitled to rectify those mistakes.
Instead of coming up with a new name and program, Jeff decided to face the music. I, for one, am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (and the association with Pornkings helps a lot). We've all made mistakes in this business (fuck knows I'm made more than my share) and we shouldn't be shunned forever over a mistake. Anyone remember when MarcDe's first program had problems? No, because everyone remembers the good he did with ARS.... It's not about the mistakes that were made, rather how they are dealt with after they are made...
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Funny how when theirs drama everyone jumps on the band wagon. But when the smoke clears they have nothing to say. Am I upset over this? Hells know because I expect it. If you can?t swim with the sharks get out of the water. I am not bitching or complaining, that's not my style just making a statement Very few people came to my defence.Why? Because when it comes down to it we are all competitors and everyone wants to see you fall/fail or go out of business. Nobody really gives a shit while they are trying to climb to the top. This industry is no different from the rest it is dirty and cut throat like any other. When you become successful people get jealous and money changes everything. Only the strong survive. the tides change all the time so from my experience never burn any of your bridges because this industry is very small when you reach the top. I for one Feel lucky to still be around I work hard and enjoy what I do and have made many friends over the years.
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Sykk that is a nice notion, one I agree with.
However, when things are done intentionally it is NOT a mistake. Labeling something a mistake does no make it so. It is the intention and the action that matters. In this case there was pre-medidated intention of ripping people off. There has been an entire trail of intentional decisions to do the WRONG thing. The only mistake was being caught. |
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You choose to not believe him. His only Mistake was he didn't know how to run a Program in this industry like many others. Lets name all the programs that folded and never paid. He tried to go big and failed nothing more nothing less I know I'm not going to change your mind on Jeff But for those who don't want to line his pockets send to the perfection girl sites in Pornkings
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He has INTENTIONALLY ripped off webmasters, just as he INTENTIONALLY built a site making the girl to appear to be underage. This is not a matter of opinion, but FACTS. Why did you not just buy him out completely? Why did you partner with a proven scammer? Are you going to hire Ken Lay next? |
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Mike... this is bullshit!
You are basing your entire arguement on speculation and half truths. Who have you talked to? Have you talked to me at all about any of these issues? NO We have not have a conversation in over a year and a half. I NEVER and I mean NEVER intentionally ripped off ONE webmaster, EVER! Please provide me with the "facts" on this issues. Mike, I could hardly get around the admin section to even change pricing infomation let alone figure out how to do the things you are accusing me of. Ask... just ask. Every tech support guy at ccbill.. along with my sales rep will back that up. I never intentionally ripped off a webmaster.... ever! When the situation was found, we corrected and I paid the webmasters that lost the rebills and we paid back triple what they lost. Everyone the stepped forward got paid. We went through that rebill issue with a fine tooth comb. We are clear and paid in full x 3 on that issue. Once again, if you have PROOF otherwsie... please feel free to share. Ive always paid my debts and made good on everything I can. Once again, if you have proof otherwise, please post it. As for the underage site. Yes, it happened and I admited to it 2 frinking years ago. The site ran for 4 months nearly 3 years ago. Was it a bad call.. yeah sure.. it was, but never once did I shoot am underage model. So Mike, lets get this all out in the open. Please present the facts that you claim you have. Not just one sided stories that you heard through the grapevine, but the facts. People that make accusations like this... in most cases (present company excluded) take the time, do the research and talk to all parties before they throw out accusations such as you have. You have not once approched me and ask.. "Jeff... wtf is going on?" so how can you even began to to say you have "facts" You have second hand information at best. If I am wrong here... please let me know. Sure would have liked to work this out in private, but I see its not your style We dont owe you any money. From the looks of things you are still getting a rebill or two... one and one half years after you stopped sending traffic. Mike, just provide us the facts you have gathered on this. Let me in on what you think you know. If there is something, at least give me the chance to defend myself. These blind accuations are getting old. I am sure not trying to change your mind on how you feel about me. Its of no concern to me really. My only concern is that you have presenting accusations that you claim are fact, without providing the proof to back up your claim. Thats my only issue. Have a good one ![]()
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Couple of interesting facts in this thread: He had all of 6 posts when he decided to share his thoughts about child porn. He never initially denied that these girls were under 18 when given the chance in the beginning. It took him 7 months to make up a lie that this was only one site (not a couple) and she was actually 18. |
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=343569&s= People, don't fall for this thief's lies and faked remorse. He didn't "accidentally" fuck up, he did so deliberately and he's now trying to get away with it. ![]()
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Roger if Pornkings runs the show, why keep Jeff around?
he is the prolem. It is not the company. Something is fishy. There is no logical reason to keep a known scammer invovled with your company. Jeff is an albatros around Pornking's neck. Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.... |
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But all the cool guys and gals are doing it.
LOL, this industry cracks me the fuck up. I never promoted PerfectionCash the first time around, and I sure as hell wouldn't do it now after the CCBill fiasco. The only logical reason I can think of PornKings partnering with him in this fashion is for publicity... and he/they are getting lots of it.
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The fact is Enron cheated alot of people and Kenneth Lay should go to jail for that. Not apologize and expect everything to go back the way it is... What don't you get about this? The average webmaster has no way to garuntee if he is getting cheated or not. So when it comes to light that it is proven that someone is a cheat they can say everything in the world and most will not promote them. Simply, because there are too many other programs out there with out a known cheat and scammer running the show. You should change your name or find a new business. Or just shut the fuck up.
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Hmmm...I wonder who FUCKyouPAYme is?
![]() Funny how when the shit hits the fan Roger V sticks up for Jeff.. Like I said in a previous post..He didn't want to have Jeffs name affiliated to anything even when Jeff was making posts about how sorry he was and explaining the mistakes that he made. Maybe it was a business decision but, I feel like you treat people no matter what ,how you would want to be treated in business and outside of it. I met Jeff and he was a really nice guy. He made some business mistakes- You live and learn, right? No sense to keep bashing him.I know it is about principal now, I know how it is to keep at something just for the principal but, if Pornkings is so bent on making this thing work- they knew what they got into when they acquired PC- so why not settle the debts and lose the razors. I will just continue to bash the real liar. ![]() ![]() |
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