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Old 08-03-2004, 03:08 PM   #1
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We fucked up.. and we're very sorry.. now we are moving forward!

Hey Guys & Girls!

Yes, we did ?Fuck Up?! We made several mistakes that we very much regret. While we feel that the errors were not intentional we regretted them never the less and take full responsibility for what occurred. We are very sorry for the issues that came out of our errors. We have worked very hard clean these errors and have put systems in place to make sure these errors will never happen again. We have made spent the past several months making things right and getting back on track. It wasn?t easy, but doing the right thing isn?t always a cake walk. However, we accomplished what we set out to do and here we are, bigger and stronger then ever. We know there will be some that won?t work with Perfection Cash, that?s fine and we understand. Our hopes are that you will see the consistency return and we can get your business back. We will do whatever it takes to earn your trust and your business.

Now, over the past month few months we have been totally redoing Perfection Cash. Rebuilding sites, shooting tons of new content and beta testing the entire reworked program has been one of our many areas of focus. Folks, Perfection Cash is going nuts! Our daily sign ups are triple what they were in Dec (our biggest month ever). Our ratios have dropped to an overall 1:382 vs. 1:984 that they were 8 months ago. Webmasters are banking with Perfection Cash once again and like never before.

We have shot nearly 30,000 new images since March 1st of this year. We have added 13 new girls to the Perfection Girls mega site and have 3 more solo sites in the works. We also have another mega site coming shortly as well as this kick ass party site due out Sept 1st. We are shooting every month and getting new faces every day. That?s my job and I don?t suck at it.

August is a huge month for us and our webmasters. We have all the new sites, the new look and a huge, kick ass contest. Check out this contest where everyone can win.

Sign up or restart your traffic between now and Aug 20th. Once you sign up and send 10 or more revshare joins between now and Aug 21st you are entered in a drawing to win an Ipod or $200.00 cash! Not just one Ipod or cash giveaway, but up to 10 winners! Yes, it?s a drawing, but one where everyone can win. The drawing will take place on the 22nd of Aug. All of the webmasters affiliate id?s that have met the 10 join requirement will be assigned a random number (which you will pick between 1-100). Don?t worry if you don?t draw your exact number because everyone still wins. The closest number to the number drawn without going over will be awarded the gift if some of the exact numbers are not called. We will be giving away 10 Ipods or 10 $200.00 wires that day. We will have a board personality pick the 10 numbers live, here on GFY. This is just for starter!

Check this out?.

Then, on Sept 5th our mega give away. All of those that have 20 or more revshare joins by Sept 3rd will get to pick a number between 1-50. We will have a drawing here on GFY for the winner of a 17? Samsung flat screen monitor or $1000.00 in cash! Again, the exact or the closest number without going over?. WINS!

Anyone can win this! Anyone can send 10 joins in 2 weeks and anyone can send 20 joins in a month. This is a contest where everyone has a shot at getting some cool stuff or some great cash, newbie?s and seasoned professionals alike. We are excited to be able to offer this to our current and new webmasters, but we are more excited about the wades of cash you will be putting in your pocket.

Now, go sign up and get the traffic rolling. If you want to work a traffic trade deal we can do that also. We have traffic great traffic! We have all the options for you. If you can?t convert revshare then we have a PPS option for you also. We have tons of new hosted galleries and some awesome ads and banners all ready for you. If we don?t have what you need? please, just ask. We can make things happen for you.

Once again, we are terribly sorry for what happened 7 months ago. We have cleared up the issues we had and we are moving forward. That was then, this is now and you WILL see the difference.

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A special thanks to all who stood by us when things were tough and helped us work through challenging times. You know who you are.

And Akil from http://www.team31.net outstanding flash banner and promo page.

Jeff

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Just some fun stuff... the overall ratio for Perfection Cash is 1:202 so far this month with over $10,000 earned by our webmasters. Thought you might like to know
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:09 PM   #2
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:09 PM   #3
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i sale good cheap sig placement.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:10 PM   #4
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Just skip the first 10 - 20 responses folks. We're only here for sig placement
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:11 PM   #5
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Hmmm. Good luck in finding people to promote you.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:12 PM   #6
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why should i take time out of my day to read that?

way too much info on something i don't really care about
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:12 PM   #7
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you think
"im sorry i robbed you guys"
is gonna cut it?

i mean, it takes balls to stand up and admitt you were wrong, and that i salute you for. my only problem is that dont change the fact you were well aware of wtf you were doing and would have continued if you wernt exsposed.

best of luck to you and the new program.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:13 PM   #8
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:14 PM   #9
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What "mistakes" exactly?
I'd love to promote the sites. They are GOOD looking girls. But tell me what you did come clean and honest.

And someone please cliffnotes the above post.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:14 PM   #10
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This is a PornKings venture, everyone - best of luck to PerfectionCash!

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:15 PM   #11
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What "mistakes" exactly?
I'd love to promote the sites. They are GOOD looking girls. But tell me what you did come clean and honest.

And someone please cliffnotes the above post.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:15 PM   #12
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Just skip the first 10 - 20 responses folks. We're only here for sig placement
hehe, how true that is.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:15 PM   #13
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Didn't read all of it, but did you pay the people you owe $?
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:15 PM   #14
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:16 PM   #15
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Somecreep: I know what all of the allegations are. I'm not a moron.

I want to hear what he is "Admitting" to doing here.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:17 PM   #18
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I still won't send you any traffic.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:18 PM   #19
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why should i take time out of my day to read that?

way too much info on something i don't really care about
yeah, especially right after lunch. I'd fall asleep for sure.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:18 PM   #21
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Good call on that one Jeff --- keep the humility thing going, I think everyone fucks up in this biz sooner or later if you stick around long enough to see it.

It looks like you've benefited a lot from Roger's guidance, and I'm glad to hear that everyone has been paid.

Keep making the best sites you can, and stay humble and honest. It is the only business model that works in the long run.


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Old 08-03-2004, 03:19 PM   #23
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I think this is a good way to go about it. They came clean and ask to be forgiven. It's 100% better than going away and reemerging as some new thing, which is what everyone else does.

And for that reason, I think people should give them a shot. I'm gonna try the program.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:19 PM   #24
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Question: regarding the "past mistakes" you mentioned..... is there anyone out there that you owe money to for those past mistakes? Be honest now, because if you say "no" and there ARE people owed out there I have no doubt that they will come forward and light up this thread.

If "yes"..... then how about you pay them what they are rightfully owed, and then move forward with new projects?

If the answer is no and it is the absolute truth, then disregard this post. Not trying to be a dick, but doing the right thing by your past affiliates etc is, well... the right thing to do. Period.
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That's what I am getting at too guys. Got some teen traffic and I have always been a fan of the sites just not the biz practice.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:24 PM   #27
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Perfection Cash and Pornkings are doing great by me
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why should i take time out of my day to read that?

way too much info on something i don't really care about
I read mabye the first line and that was it....
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:27 PM   #29
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Perfection Girl jeff is scammer. He is a liar and a thief.

Nothing has changed except that he now is trying to use other peoples good names and cash to bail his ass out.

Anyone who uses this program should have their head examined.

This is the only industry where one week someone will rob you, dissappear for a few months, pop back up out of the blue and try to get everyones business again!!

Those shilling for Jeff are just as much to blame as he is.

Very sad. How many of you posting nice things got the spam ICQ from jeff begging for support.

Once a Cockholster, always a cockholster.

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:28 PM   #30
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:30 PM   #31
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One last thing.

lets be honest and clear. What jeff did was NOT mistakes. It was intentional thought out behavior. The only mistake he made was getting caught!!

Steve you helped create this monster by giving him credibility back in the day, and you shill for him again. Pretty damn funny!! Is he sending all his stolen traffic to Lightspeed again???
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Good call on that one Jeff --- keep the humility thing going, I think everyone fucks up in this biz sooner or later if you stick around long enough to see it.

It looks like you've benefited a lot from Roger's guidance, and I'm glad to hear that everyone has been paid.

Keep making the best sites you can, and stay humble and honest. It is the only business model that works in the long run.


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fuck up and turn rebills off and see if we forgive you

I am still bitter about this shit, i dont care if god himself or the fucking queen of england came in here and told me push this crap.

turn off rebills, and I will never forget it.
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One last thing.

lets be honest and clear. What jeff did was NOT mistakes. It was intentional thought out behavior. The only mistake he made was getting caught!!

Steve you helped create this monster by giving him credibility back in the day, and you shill for him again. Pretty damn funny!! Is he sending all his stolen traffic to Lightspeed again???
I've been critical of Jeff myself, privately. I did help him get started, so I took a personal interest in trying to keep him on the right path. I have advised him all along to repay his debts and apologize. I think moving his program under the pornkings umbrella was a good move.

I try to get along with everyone, you know that is true. I'm sure I'm currently sending purecash way more trafic than perfectiongirls.

Good programs bubble to the top. Jeff still has a lot of rebuilding to do. I always say actions speak louder than words.

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:43 PM   #36
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I think this is a good way to go about it. They came clean and ask to be forgiven. It's 100% better than going away and reemerging as some new thing, which is what everyone else does.

And for that reason, I think people should give them a shot. I'm gonna try the program.
thanks for the support. I should list everyone who left the biz and cashed out and never paid webmasters for whatever reason.
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fuck up and turn rebills off and see if we forgive you

I am still bitter about this shit, i dont care if god himself or the fucking queen of england came in here and told me push this crap.

turn off rebills, and I will never forget it.

Yes I agree, that is a hard issue to forgive. And I think you've made it clear that you do not intend on sending perfectiongirls any more of your traffic. I think letting pornkings handle the financial part of his program will resolve all the payment issues.

If Jeff owes you money, then you should be repaid. I wish I got repaid every time someone ripped me off...

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Steve, I understand where you are coming from. I hope you understand my points as well.

Surely you have seen enough scammers fly your way, that you understand that many re-appear and hurt other people.

Nothing personal Steve, I look forward to spending time with your stand-in in Florida!

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:49 PM   #41
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Yes I agree, that is a hard issue to forgive. And I think you've made it clear that you do not intend on sending perfectiongirls any more of your traffic. I think letting pornkings handle the financial part of his program will resolve all the payment issues.

If Jeff owes you money, then you should be repaid. I wish I got repaid every time someone ripped me off...
I am not asking for anything. he (Jeff) claims to only 100$ in rebills were messed up.

I stopped pushing them months back, and ya know what, i STILL HAVE REBILLS coming in...

I was pushing them BEFORE most of you, and had 20+ galleries listed with TOP TGPS pushing MAJOR PARTNER account traffic.

I was even watermarking directories of images because I had CONTENT BEFORE IT WAS EVEN IN THE PAYSITE.

I dont care about money, its getting me to use my name and partner accounts to fuel his sites, meanwhile rebills are turned off... 5 months goes buy, rebills are crap, and then he gets exposed?

yeah, its a bit much to forgive. you people on the sidelines have no clue how jeff worked may of us to get us to dump traffic, as well as USE OUR NAMES to fuel his ship.

on top of that, we were given special treatment to conetn that was not even in the member section yet, he fucked us over... period.
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Old 08-03-2004, 03:58 PM   #43
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:00 PM   #44
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Sometimes saying "sorry" does not necessary mean that you are sorry for what you did.
Wasnt going to comment, but will here because you make a valid point.

You are very right. We are very sorry for the rebill issue and we made it right with everyone that let us. We only have one more person that is owen about $200.00 (Rowan) and I am waiting on a returned email from him (sent another yesterday) The $200.00 (or there abouts) is double what we owed him on his missed rebills, because i paid out double to those that we found. All in all there were 27 lost rebills. I paid out of 54. Just to make sure people knew we wanted to do the right thing.

We could have walked away, not paid anyone back. It would have been a shity thing to do. Facing the music, dealing with the problem head on has always been our style. We paid people back, we covered our debts and made one huge sacrifice to do so. We have NOT been perfect in getting this all done and back together, but we did our best and we succeeded. It was truly worth the effort.

I dont feel bad about any sacrifices I made in making these situations right. I know I did the right thing and dispite how people might feel, I can sleep well knowing I did my dead level best in making every situation whole.

Anyways, thanks for everyone comments.. even the negitive ones.

Have a great evening!

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Old 08-03-2004, 04:03 PM   #45
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:04 PM   #46
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Yes I agree, that is a hard issue to forgive. And I think you've made it clear that you do not intend on sending perfectiongirls any more of your traffic. I think letting pornkings handle the financial part of his program will resolve all the payment issues.

If Jeff owes you money, then you should be repaid. I wish I got repaid every time someone ripped me off...

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Rebills were paid back to affiliates then? Can you confirm that.
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:07 PM   #49
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fuck up and turn rebills off and see if we forgive you

I am still bitter about this shit, i dont care if god himself or the fucking queen of england came in here and told me push this crap.

turn off rebills, and I will never forget it.

Have you ever sent to Pornkings?

and why havn't you started your own program? with that many posts and time spent you could have built Pornkings.com
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:09 PM   #50
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Have you ever sent to Pornkings?

and why havn't you started your own program? with that many posts and time spent you could have built Pornkings.com
I have and stopped.

So youre going to stoop to that level are you?

Well Roger, this will only show your true colors, go ahead , lets see insults. Try a little harder, knocking me for post count iis abit lame no?

Funny how simply for not holding my tongue now I gotta deal with you?

This is about jeff, either stay out of it or hold your tongue because i will always say what i want around here.
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