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Old 07-31-2004, 09:59 AM   #1
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is under 18 NN legal?

Is it legal for girls under 18 to do NN? It would seem so since lots of girls under 18 model. If anyone knows the guidelines of this that could help me out, i'd appreciate it!
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:01 AM   #2
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people are going to scream pedo in this thread fairly fast
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it's not worth it. Do you want to walk outside having to look over your shoulder all of the time?

If you're a pornographer, you shouldn't even be pointing a camera at a girl that is under 18 for any business purpose.
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people are going to scream pedo in this thread fairly fast
it was just something i was curious about, i didn't say i wanted to do it... now did i?
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it was just something i was curious about, i didn't say i wanted to do it... now did i?
i was just letting you know the implications.
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it was just something i was curious about, i didn't say i wanted to do it... now did i?
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How would one even consider a thing like that?
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It's legal as long as the pictures are not of a sexual nature and the focus is not on the crotch/ass/tits. It's a very fine line that is subject interpretation. All it takes is a zealous DA...
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:18 AM   #13
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It's legal as long as the pictures are not of a sexual nature and the focus is not on the crotch/ass/tits. It's a very fine line that is subject interpretation. All it takes is a zealous DA...

Thanks for the answer unlike most fucking idiots on here can do. But...Yeah, i wasnt trying to do anything sexual like most NN sites the people on here are used to. Something along the lines of CourtneyDay.com. I am signing this girl up for a lot of events to model for companies and was thinking of building her just a normal model portfolio site that had a members only section. Nothing sexual in any way.
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:26 AM   #14
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Something along the lines of CourtneyDay.com
And you don't consider that site kiddy?
So if I had a 12 year old to flaunt her stuff you would go for it?
Despite thongs and bras skin can still be perceived as indecent. And no I'm not republican. So I would definitely stay away from that if I were you, if not I could easily gather at least 20 ppl who would gladly accuse you of cp.
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I'm surprised nobody has been busted for CP for any of the Olsen twins pics.
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There used to be a lot of 18 - non nude website . But nowdays, visa dosen't process them anymore ...
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i can say i dont have much morals, but im still against under 18 nn sites. anyone shooting young girls with the intentions of providing the pics for guys to jerk off to is just as bad as CP.
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Why shouldn't 18- girls be allowed to do modeling?

This has been done offline for ages. Fashion shows, magazines, newspapers. Do you blame them for pedo catering too?? What's so different about the web as a medium that makes it NOT OK to do same thing?
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I'm surprised nobody has been busted for CP for any of the Olsen twins pics.
CP = child PORN

Did Olsen Twins ever do porn modeling?

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It depends on what they are modeling.There are models under 18 modeling a number of things.Check the jcpenney catalog,sears,etc.
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CP = child PORN

Did Olsen Twins ever do porn modeling?

Idiot.
Apparently sarcasm is completely lost on some people...
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I would stay away from it...don't walk...run! You are looking for nothing but trouble.
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i can say i dont have much morals, but im still against under 18 nn sites. anyone shooting young girls with the intentions of providing the pics for guys to jerk off to is just as bad as CP.
Well said
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Apparently sarcasm is completely lost on some people...
with so many idiots around, you need to put a little extra effort to make your sarcasm noticeble
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It depends on what they are modeling.There are models under 18 modeling a number of things.Check the jcpenney catalog,sears,etc.
They have kids in bathing suits..
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Why shouldn't 18- girls be allowed to do modeling?

This has been done offline for ages. Fashion shows, magazines, newspapers. Do you blame them for pedo catering too?? What's so different about the web as a medium that makes it NOT OK to do same thing?

Who is paying $20 a month for access to those sites? It certainly is not modeling agencies
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i can say i dont have much morals, but im still against under 18 nn sites. anyone shooting young girls with the intentions of providing the pics for guys to jerk off to is just as bad as CP.
What I don't understand is how parents can let their kids do that kind of shit. I mean, yeah, letting your kid model some jeans in a Sears catalog is one thing, but letting them be photographed in a thong for the internet is just fucked up.
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Why shouldn't 18- girls be allowed to do modeling?

This has been done offline for ages. Fashion shows, magazines, newspapers. Do you blame them for pedo catering too?? What's so different about the web as a medium that makes it NOT OK to do same thing?
There is a BIG difference and I don't believe that you are so naive that you don't see it !

A girl modeling for a magazine in some beautiful dress is MUCH different from a girl spreading her legs with just panties and bra and some webmaster charging 19.95$ a month for this. Come on, who pays a monthly membership for a site like this if he doesn't want to wank off on the pics ? It's the same shit like those "nudist" magazines with underage girls. It's sick, it's wrong and everybody making money this way is as sick as those pedo assholes.
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What I don't understand is how parents can let their kids do that kind of shit. I mean, yeah, letting your kid model some jeans in a Sears catalog is one thing, but letting them be photographed in a thong for the internet is just fucked up.
God, I agree with you on this.

While it isn't illegal and such, to ME, anyone promoting them to porn surfers is probably one of the worst things I have ever seen. I just went thru this with some assclown last night on here, he thought it was totally legal to have girls as young as 8 being promoted on porn sites... and his only excuse was that "it is legal". Well, you know what? It might be "legal" but it's one of the most immoral things I have ever seen.

If they are modeling clothing for a clothing store, this is all fine, and I am happy they are doing it, but to promote them to porn people is only asking for trouble and I won't have anyone promoting my program that even has a link to a link to this on their sites. Makes me sick and I wouldn't promote it for no amount of money. Kids and porn should NEVER be hand in hand, no matter if the shit is "legal" or not.
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Some people are such hypocrites in here. Why is a 17y old NN site gross, or disgraceful? Do you turn your heads the other way, if you see a younger girl on the streets in provocative clothes?

Indeed, it's a sensitive topic. But you also should consider, the 18 is just an average age, which your country decided about. It should be respected too. But keep in mind, it's different in many countries too, can be higher or lower. There are 15 year olds as mature as some other at 20, and the other way around too.
And most of all, is it gross if a 16y old girl has sex with his boyfriend?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm completely against children porn, but some people are getting too paranoid here. Respect the laws, but don't be a square!
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Some people are such hypocrites in here. Why is a 17y old NN site gross, or disgraceful? Do you turn your heads the other way, if you see a younger girl on the streets in provocative clothes?
It's not about whether it's right or wrong to find a 17 year old girl attractive, it's about being running adult porn sites in conjunction with under 18 model sites. It may be legal but it's certainly not a good idea.
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Some people are such hypocrites in here. Why is a 17y old NN site gross, or disgraceful? Do you turn your heads the other way, if you see a younger girl on the streets in provocative clothes?

Indeed, it's a sensitive topic. But you also should consider, the 18 is just an average age, which your country decided about. It should be respected too. But keep in mind, it's different in many countries too, can be higher or lower. There are 15 year olds as mature as some other at 20, and the other way around too.
And most of all, is it gross if a 16y old girl has sex with his boyfriend?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm completely against children porn, but some people are getting too paranoid here. Respect the laws, but don't be a square!
Exactly.

Working on the internet got some of the people here completely paranoid. First of all they think anything -18 stands for cp. Which ofcourse is completely bullshit. 2nd: for some reason everybody thinks the american law = the internet law. Well, newsflash, it isnt. Third: There is nothing illegal about girls younger than 18. If you film sex acts and stuff, yes then you might be doing something illegal but other than that no. People (read: Americans) are totally paranoid and clueless when it comes to stuff like this. No clue about the law whatsoever but they just scream and yell pedo whereever they can.
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It's not about whether it's right or wrong to find a 17 year old girl attractive, it's about being running adult porn sites in conjunction with under 18 model sites. It may be legal but it's certainly not a good idea.
Why not? If its legal in another country then why wouldnt it be a good idea? Because your law says something different?
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It's legal. There is case law on it you can look up.

However you must recognize the very nature of what you are stepping into. It is not without risks. Even though its not CP, you can easily be seen by some people as being a producer of CP, who don't know or understand the law and that can cause a lot of complications for you.

For example you might live in a community where the local law enforcement is ultra conservative and ignorant of the laws and will hassle you regardless. They could easily go so far as to set you up. It would be easy for them to plant real CP on your computers for example under the new Patriot Act laws which basically give unrestricted seach powers to police.

You could also have a problem with the models themselves. How hard would it be for a local prosecutor to brainwash a young girl to thinking you attempted to molest her. A clever psychologist could easily get a little girl believing and making statements with that kind of implication.

The other thing you have to watch out for are the young girls that might have been or are currently being sexually abused and will try to act on it with you in your studio. What are you going to do if a 16 year old girl starts to come on to you? There are girls that will do that inevitably. Now you could end up charged with statutory rape of a minor and you might as well kiss your life goodbye.

So you are treading in murky toxic waters and if you are prepared to handle that legally and financially and willing to take the risks involved have a swim but be ready to get your legs chomped off by someone.
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Reputation wise, I would say it's a bit like girls (18+) starting to do nude modelling. They may be called whores by ignorant people.
You may be called a CP producer by some stupid people, if you shoot non-nude content, and put it on websites.
That's life.
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Why not? If its legal in another country then why wouldnt it be a good idea? Because your law says something different?
You think it's ok to shoot a 16 year old girl in a nice skirt and blouse at 10am, then a naked 18 year old copping double penetration at 2pm, in the same studio? That's my point. Don't mix the two, you'll inevitably fuck up, or someone will join them together somehow.
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Another interesting question.
Is it considered illegal to look at nude photos of girls at your age? Yep, when I was 14, I liked to look at naked photos of teen girls.

One thing is for sure, it's not a good thing, because the demand creates supplies.
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people are going to scream pedo in this thread fairly fast
Yeah right, fuckin' pedo :D
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Old 08-01-2004, 10:36 AM   #50
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for the last fucking time wacking off to, lusting after a 15 girl is NOT, i repeat, NOT, pedophilia! You are not a criminal nor are you sick if u wack off to or lust for the 16 year old babysitter. you are a dirty old man, that's it.

This is what a pedophile is

In medicine, pedophilia (American English), alternatively spelled paedophilia or pædophilia (in British English), is sexual attraction of an adult to prepubescent children. In common usage, pedophilia or under-age sex is sexual attraction and sexual acts towards children generally, including adolescents who are far beyond a prepubescent level of physical and psychological development. This article will discuss these two concepts separately.

Clinical pedophilia
Clinically, pedophilia is defined, to give one definition (from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th edition, Text Revision, American Psychiatric Association): Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia


A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).
B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.


get it? PREPUBESCENT - meaning not having gone through puberty yet, no titties, no bush, no menstruation, no hips - a child.
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i coined the word for these surfers who want Little April and the like as 'Lolitaphiles'. I just found out there is a term for adults who are turned on by teenagers - EPHEBOPHILIA

The terms hebephilia and ephebophilia are sometimes used to describe attraction to youths or adolescents, distinct from attraction to children.

here's a news bulletin - every male over 18 is an ephebophile or he's a lying sack of shit!
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