John Kerry: "Life begins at conception, but I support abortion." - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 10:39 AM

This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

swoop · 07-31-2004, 10:41 AM

He likes to cover both sides, get used to it

Marcus Aurelius · 07-31-2004, 10:42 AM

he believes women can do what they want with their pussy. thats good for our business. drop the issue.

Odin88 · 07-31-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by mdcq
he believes women can do what they want with their pussy. thats good for our business. drop the issue.

I am not on the issue too much, but thats good for business so drop it? Interesting concepts you have if indeed life does begin at conception. Kill babies? Sure... As long as my wallet gets fatter.

candyflip · 07-31-2004, 10:45 AM

He can't believe that life begins at conception and support a women's right to choose?

iFliPcEss · 07-31-2004, 10:46 AM

he doesn't really know what he wants, lol

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
He can't believe that life begins at conception and support a women's right to choose?

If he feels a life exists, he is also condemning it to death. What do you think happens in an abortion dude? The fetus is pulled out, given 5 bucks, and then walks out of the clinic?

If a president recognizes something as life, or deserving of rights, he should have the balls to defend those rights.

Marcus Aurelius · 07-31-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
I am not on the issue too much, but thats good for business so drop it? Interesting concepts you have if indeed life does begin at conception. Kill babies? Sure... As long as my wallet gets fatter.

this is GFY. is anything ever taken so seriously. I was playing around, I cant stand abortion.

candyflip · 07-31-2004, 10:51 AM

Being Pro-Choice does not always mean that someone is Pro-Abortion

Doctor Dre · 07-31-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

Ok ... the day you will put your girl pregnant and you will want abortion, you will be happy it is legal .

But It's still somebody ... but what would be that person without a good family / money .

Sometimes it's better off like that .

detoxed · 07-31-2004, 10:56 AM

Umm no its not the same thing....
its the same thing as saying that guy is alive, but i want to kill him.
Go for it

Doctor Dre · 07-31-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

And as far as Lincoln saying that ...

If you got 50 slaves working for you in your house, will you want things to change ???

detoxed · 07-31-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
If he feels a life exists, he is also condemning it to death. What do you think happens in an abortion dude? The fetus is pulled out, given 5 bucks, and then walks out of the clinic?

If a president recognizes something as life, or deserving of rights, he should have the balls to defend those rights.

You are putting words in his mouth, starting to sound like Michael Moore.... he never said just because life begins at conception that it deserves rights. I'll get the vaccuum cleaner, spead your legs babe

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
Being Pro-Choice does not always mean that someone is Pro-Abortion

So, using his own logic, he supports the personal choice to commit murder.

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 11:02 AM

Next, Kerry would say

"I support military action to rid Saddam and to search for WMDs, but I'm opposed to the war"

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by detoxed
You are putting words in his mouth, starting to sound like Michael Moore.... he never said just because life begins at conception that it deserves rights. I'll get the vaccuum cleaner, spead your legs babe

Kerry: "Life begins at conception"

Abortion takes a life and therefore is murder.

tony286 · 07-31-2004, 11:06 AM

Vote for bush and find another job that simple

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Vote for bush and find another job that simple

i think that both canditates are idiots.

Trixie · 07-31-2004, 11:09 AM

I was kind of annoyed by his seemingly contradictory statements on abortion, but really -- it IS a complex issue. Part of our political problems stem from trying to make every issue black and white, right or wrong, when with something like abortion -- there are varying shades of grey.

One CAN feel abortion is wrong, but intellectualize that it's too complicated to force that opinion on other people. Acknowledging that life begins at conception doesn't mean abortion is "murder" -- plants are alive, but we don't call it "murder" when we eat a salad.

There are many people who would never get an abortion themselves but know it's wrong to take that choice away from other people. It might be refreshing for a lot of people to hear Kerry have a seemingly "conflicting" opinion, similar to their own.

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

idiot... life is a biological process.. nothing magical.. cells forming is life.. whether we are talking about humans or plant..

LIfe doesnt necessary equal being alive..

What he said is nothing suprising.. But thanks for sharing

Manowar · 07-31-2004, 11:12 AM

Ever heard of free will?

if you were a girl and got pregnant by accident would you have a baby just because the governmant wanted you too

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
idiot... life is a biological process.. nothing magical.. cells forming is life.. whether we are talking about humans or plant..

LIfe doesnt necessary equal being alive..

What he said is nothing suprising.. But thanks for sharing

Wow. Amazing ignorance. Public school education, right?

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
Wow. Amazing ignorance. Public school education, right?

Cells dividing? Only an idiot would think thats even relevant to the issue discussed..

My IQ is higher than you and your mother combine.. Hey you can even throw in your retarded father...

nofx · 07-31-2004, 11:33 AM

at least he isnt like bush and wants to get rid of abortion. why the fuck do any of you want him to be re elected?

EviLSuperstaR · 07-31-2004, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
I am not on the issue too much, but thats good for business so drop it? Interesting concepts you have if indeed life does begin at conception. Kill babies? Sure... As long as my wallet gets fatter.

You don't exactly kill babies, dr. Fuckhead...
Bush is against abortion but doesn't have any problem with executing mentally ill people, real criminals and Iraqi civilians (including babies..). Flip-Flop Dubya!

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Cells dividing? Only an idiot would think thats even relevant to the issue discussed..

My IQ is higher than you and your mother combine.. Hey you can even throw in your retarded father...

But not high enough to make a grammatically correct post.

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
But not high enough to make a grammatically correct post.

lol.. you got me there.. You can write in a second language DJ..? let see you write something...

Fletch XXX · 07-31-2004, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
If he feels a life exists, he is also condemning it to death. What do you think happens in an abortion dude? The fetus is pulled out, given 5 bucks, and then walks out of the clinic?

If a president recognizes something as life, or deserving of rights, he should have the balls to defend those rights.

more abortions the better off we are.

this country needs less people.

make abortiones cheaper and safer.

mandatory abortions for people who do not meet crieria for being ALLOWED to bring a life into this wor.ld.

Paul Waters · 07-31-2004, 12:22 PM

Life does not begin....

...the sperm is alive, the ovum is alive.....

Learn some biology people!

NevDull · 07-31-2004, 12:23 PM

There is such a thing as believing that something is wrong, but not believing that the government should make it illegal.

Mr.Fiction · 07-31-2004, 12:30 PM

Your quote is not accurate. Kerry does not "support abortion" - he supports freedom for people to disagree and freedom for women to make their own choices about when abortion is appropriate.

He is pro-choice but he personally does not agree with abortion.

Isn't this exactly how Libertaians say government should be?

Just because Kerry has a personal belief about a complex issue does not mean he will try to make that the law.

Do you want a president who enforces his personal beliefs on you?

Kerry supports personal freedom. If you don't like it, support Bush.

DarkJedi · 07-31-2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
lol.. you got me there.. You can write in a second language DJ..? let see you write something...

English is my second language.

SL|M! · 07-31-2004, 01:05 PM

No matter what u think about abortion, Govt has no right to stick its nose on what u should do with your body. They should stick to fixing healtcare and Iraq

Tom_PMs · 07-31-2004, 01:13 PM

Yeah this is simple, but people who want to, will find flaws in anything

I also believe that life begins when the egg has enough information to divide. Thats life for you.

However, it's my position that a woman should decide if she wants to carry a baby full term.

Oh look! Is that a flip flop? Hardly. lol

tony286 · 07-31-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
i think that both canditates are idiots.

It has nothing to do with idiots , one candidate has a religious agenda to end what you do for a living. wake the fuck up

hydro · 07-31-2004, 01:18 PM

sluts will always be sluts and theres nothing you can do to change that. They should have used a condom but didnt or maybe it was just an accident. Either way if they don't want to have a baby then they probably wouldn't make good mothers. Maybe thats why we see so many problems with kids these days.

CamChicks · 07-31-2004, 01:19 PM

get real,
Kerry, Clinton, and most of the democrats, are secularists ... but in order to get elected in this country you have to fake faith and pretend to see the logic in religious arguements. However, once in office, they try to move us as far ahead of the chistrian agenda as they can get away with. So, "don't hate the playa, hate the game".

tony286 · 07-31-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
get real,
Kerry, Clinton, and most of the democrats, are secularists ... but in order to get elected in this country you have to fake faith and pretend to see the logic in religious arguements. However, once in office, they try to move us as far ahead of the chistrian agenda as they can get away with. So, "don't hate the playa, hate the game".

Babagirls · 07-31-2004, 01:22 PM

i was gonna start a thread about this subject last week; he was on a some news program but i didnt have a link or remember what program so i didnt post about it but...

Kerry said that "a baby at one month conception is not a baby yet."

that pissed me off!

Pleasurepays · 07-31-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

politicians have to appease.

just a fact.

democrats are overwhelmingly pro choice but the pro choice crowd only represents 1/2 the voters.

EZRhino · 07-31-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
Next, Kerry would say

"I support military action to rid Saddam and to search for WMDs, but I'm opposed to the war"

CamChicks · 07-31-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Babagirls
i was gonna start a thread about this subject last week; he was on a some news program but i didnt have a link or remember what program so i didnt post about it but...

Kerry said that "a baby at one month conception is not a baby yet."

that pissed me off!

Why? It's completely correct.
at one month, the organism is less than a quarter of an inch and looks something like this:

(note that this is enlarged 4x)

It has no brain and if it were a bug, you would step on it.
It's more of a moral sin to squish a cockroach; that is a more developed being.

Fred Quimby · 07-31-2004, 01:54 PM

can someone make a flip flop icon?

Mr.Fiction · 07-31-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Fred Quimby
can someone make a flip flop icon?

Try RushLimbaugh.com or Sheep.com for that.

Tom_PMs · 07-31-2004, 01:59 PM

Thats the exact kind of thing that mires up the whole argument, lol!

It's a life. It just doesnt look like a human yet.

"pro-life" and "pro-choice" are both wuss names that have nothing to do with the medical procedure of abortion. That should tip people off to be on guard for heavy spin coming your way.

It's a life when the cell divides. That doesnt mean a woman should be forced to carry it to full term though. It's not a complicated issue until you toss religion into the mix, lol.

Panda's have an unusually high incidence of twin births. However, the mother usually only cares for one of them. And only when she's got the instinct, the babies often die almost immediately. Is it evil?
Fuck no.

And dont bullshit about "well it's not the same with humans", it sure as hell is. Just a mammal on gods green earth right?

Anyway, if Bush is re-elected, you can bet high that he'll get a judge in there who will put the issue back to being illegal.

sacX · 07-31-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
Next, Kerry would say

"I support military action to rid Saddam and to search for WMDs, but I'm opposed to the war"

He doesn't support how this war has been executed, he would have done things differently. It's not that difficult to interpret, but since English is your second language I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

Same thing with the abortion issue, just because he says it's a life doesn't mean he equates it to a human life.

It's basically a troll quote anyway and I fell for it :/

Tom_PMs · 07-31-2004, 02:12 PM

He knows it's a human life. He simply says although I believe that life begins at conception, it's up to the mother to make the decision with her doctor.

Now why the fuck is that so goddamn hard for anyone with a teensy piece of brain to figure out? Seriously.

Being against someone to be president really shouldnt mean you cease to use your brain.. honestly..

warlock5 · 07-31-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
i think that both canditates are idiots.

Nice to see I'm not the only one that feels that way.

fudpuck · 07-31-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
Thats the exact kind of thing that mires up the whole argument, lol!

It's a life. It just doesnt look like a human yet.

"pro-life" and "pro-choice" are both wuss names that have nothing to do with the medical procedure of abortion. That should tip people off to be on guard for heavy spin coming your way.

It's a life when the cell divides. That doesnt mean a woman should be forced to carry it to full term though. It's not a complicated issue until you toss religion into the mix, lol.

Panda's have an unusually high incidence of twin births. However, the mother usually only cares for one of them. And only when she's got the instinct, the babies often die almost immediately. Is it evil?
Fuck no.

And dont bullshit about "well it's not the same with humans", it sure as hell is. Just a mammal on gods green earth right?

Anyway, if Bush is re-elected, you can bet high that he'll get a judge in there who will put the issue back to being illegal.

I've seen fish eat their young if the young are in danger of being ate by a predator.

Most people could learn a lot about this whold "life" subject by watching a little more National Geographic or Discovery Channel.

CoolE · 07-31-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
This is as dumb as Lincoln saying "I believe blacks are equal, but I still support slavery".

Kerry could confess to murder in one of his campaign speeches for all I care. As long as dubya gets sent packing; that's all that's important.

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Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	I was kind of annoyed by his seemingly contradictory statements on abortion, but really -- it IS a complex issue. Part of our political problems stem from trying to make every issue black and white, right or wrong, when with something like abortion -- there are varying shades of grey. One CAN feel abortion is wrong, but intellectualize that it's too complicated to force that opinion on other people. Acknowledging that life begins at conception doesn't mean abortion is "murder" -- plants are alive, but we don't call it "murder" when we eat a salad. There are many people who would never get an abortion themselves but know it's wrong to take that choice away from other people. It might be refreshing for a lot of people to hear Kerry have a seemingly "conflicting" opinion, similar to their own. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

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Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	he believes women can do what they want with their pussy. thats good for our business. drop the issue.

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Umm no its not the same thing.... its the same thing as saying that guy is alive, but i want to kill him. Go for it

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Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Ever heard of free will? if you were a girl and got pregnant by accident would you have a baby just because the governmant wanted you too

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NevDull Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	There is such a thing as believing that something is wrong, but not believing that the government should make it illegal.

07-31-2004, 12:30 PM	#31
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Your quote is not accurate. Kerry does not "support abortion" - he supports freedom for people to disagree and freedom for women to make their own choices about when abortion is appropriate. He is pro-choice but he personally does not agree with abortion. Isn't this exactly how Libertaians say government should be? Just because Kerry has a personal belief about a complex issue does not mean he will try to make that the law. Do you want a president who enforces his personal beliefs on you? Kerry supports personal freedom. If you don't like it, support Bush. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

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SL\|M! Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The BP4L Bunker Posts: 1,480	No matter what u think about abortion, Govt has no right to stick its nose on what u should do with your body. They should stick to fixing healtcare and Iraq

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Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Yeah this is simple, but people who want to, will find flaws in anything I also believe that life begins when the egg has enough information to divide. Thats life for you. However, it's my position that a woman should decide if she wants to carry a baby full term. Oh look! Is that a flip flop? Hardly. lol __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

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hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	sluts will always be sluts and theres nothing you can do to change that. They should have used a condom but didnt or maybe it was just an accident. Either way if they don't want to have a baby then they probably wouldn't make good mothers. Maybe thats why we see so many problems with kids these days.

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CamChicks Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: godless northwest Posts: 1,552	get real, Kerry, Clinton, and most of the democrats, are secularists ... but in order to get elected in this country you have to fake faith and pretend to see the logic in religious arguements. However, once in office, they try to move us as far ahead of the chistrian agenda as they can get away with. So, "don't hate the playa, hate the game". __________________ camchicks.com

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Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	i was gonna start a thread about this subject last week; he was on a some news program but i didnt have a link or remember what program so i didnt post about it but... Kerry said that "a baby at one month conception is not a baby yet." that pissed me off! __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

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Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Thats the exact kind of thing that mires up the whole argument, lol! It's a life. It just doesnt look like a human yet. "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are both wuss names that have nothing to do with the medical procedure of abortion. That should tip people off to be on guard for heavy spin coming your way. It's a life when the cell divides. That doesnt mean a woman should be forced to carry it to full term though. It's not a complicated issue until you toss religion into the mix, lol. Panda's have an unusually high incidence of twin births. However, the mother usually only cares for one of them. And only when she's got the instinct, the babies often die almost immediately. Is it evil? Fuck no. And dont bullshit about "well it's not the same with humans", it sure as hell is. Just a mammal on gods green earth right? Anyway, if Bush is re-elected, you can bet high that he'll get a judge in there who will put the issue back to being illegal. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

07-31-2004, 02:12 PM	#47
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	He knows it's a human life. He simply says although I believe that life begins at conception, it's up to the mother to make the decision with her doctor. Now why the fuck is that so goddamn hard for anyone with a teensy piece of brain to figure out? Seriously. Being against someone to be president really shouldnt mean you cease to use your brain.. honestly.. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.