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Phil · 07-31-2004, 09:40 PM

fuck yes!!! with bumb shit in white house right now...

BeHeadR · 07-31-2004, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
As a side note...if we don't, I bet israel will...

Which would you rather have?

This man knows what he speaks. Israel has already said they will attack Iran if it keeps developing nukes.

dready · 07-31-2004, 10:17 PM

First Iran, then Saudi Arabi, then Egypt.

directfiesta · 07-31-2004, 10:43 PM

Then Jordan... lol....
US is selling them arms. Israel is pissed, because they want to be the only ones with arms.... They will cry to the US. Then the US will say that Jordan has WMD ( forgetting to say that they sold them ...) and invade ....

What a fucking joke: The US are the arm dealers of the world and supply actual or future terrorists... Meanwhile, the Bush-Cheney gang are raking in the $$$$

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Israel trying to prevent U.S.-Jordan missile deal

Israel is trying to block an American-Jordanian arms deal, a diplomatic source said yesterday. The deal is for AMRAAM air-to-air missiles to be installed in Jordanian airplanes. The source said this is the first time since signing the peace treaty between Israel and Jordan that Israel has tried to stop arms from reaching Jordan.

An Israeli source said: "It is not healthy for such weapons to be so short a distance from Israel and it is not clear why Jordan wants them. Clearly if Jordan was attacked we would do the work for them, so there is no justification to sell them the missiles."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/458474.html

The US are owned by ISRAEL.

webair · 07-31-2004, 10:45 PM

we already did

rambler · 07-31-2004, 10:45 PM

I don't think the US will attack Iran if they already have WMD cause it would be too risky; the US will only attack countries that can't retaliate in a serious way which explains why they won't go after N Korea or previously China, Russia etc.

They should have attacked Pakistan But Pakistan already has WMD so instead they made friends.

I'm not saying that the US are a bunch of cowards because they only go after weak small countries(which is what it looks like) but they are just acting in a manner to preserve thier own interests

fr8 · 07-31-2004, 10:49 PM

It all depends on the next president. This will tell us what will happen.

directfiesta · 07-31-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by fr8
It all depends on the next president.

alexg · 08-01-2004, 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
As a side note...if we don't, I bet israel will...

Which would you rather have?

Maybe even a combo of both, like when the US bombed the nuclear reactor in Iraq along with Israel

gxer · 08-01-2004, 04:43 AM

as i mentioned before - it will not be funny

, cause Iran can bomb Israel at the same time US or Israel will attack their nuclear objects.

alexg · 08-01-2004, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by gxer
as i mentioned before - it will not be funny , cause Iran can bomb Israel at the same time US or Israel will attack their nuclear objects.

I don't believe it would be as in 1990 when Israel didn't reply to Iraq's Scud missiles following US's request..
things have changed since then.

rambler · 08-01-2004, 08:52 AM

Hey AlexG; if you do live in Isreal aren't you concerned over the fact that Pakistan(which has nukes) is unstable and full of fundamentalists; could obliverate Isreal(I'm sure Isreal in turn would also obliverate Pakistan but the fundamentalists don't seem to care)

If I were you I'd move

alexg · 08-01-2004, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by rambler
Hey AlexG; if you do live in Isreal aren't you concerned over the fact that Pakistan(which has nukes) is unstable and full of fundamentalists; could obliverate Isreal(I'm sure Isreal in turn would also obliverate Pakistan but the fundamentalists don't seem to care)

If I were you I'd move

no, because I believe Israel has the best intelligence in the world, and learning from mmistakes from the past, I'm sure a thing like this would be forseen and handled properly

rambler · 08-01-2004, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by alexg
no, because I believe Israel has the best intelligence in the world, and learning from mmistakes from the past, I'm sure a thing like this would be forseen and handled properly

You sure put a lot of faith in Isreal's intelligence agency.

I don't think any gov. of Pakistan will launch nukes but some rogue terrorist (with symphathizers in Pakistan nuke control) will and it does'nt seem as though Isreal Intelligence has such a good record in preventing terrorists attacks.

In fact your current gov. has succeeded in increasing the amount of terrorists and thier activities.(don't take this as an insult... just expressing my opinion)

alexg · 08-01-2004, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by rambler
and it does'nt seem as though Isreal Intelligence has such a good record in preventing terrorists attacks.

of course this is not the impression you get from watching the news in the past few years, but what you don't know is that those terrorist attacks that do happen are maybe 1-2% of those that are being planned, and prevented in early stages thanks to the intelligence and IDF operational forces.

Lev · 08-01-2004, 10:30 AM

It will never happen. Russia supports Iran and provides Iran with nuclear materials. If the United States attacks Iran it means it is attacking Russia too, which means WWIII will start.

Basic_man · 08-01-2004, 10:30 AM

I hope not!

EviLSuperstaR · 08-01-2004, 10:35 AM

Of course not, they can't even control Iraq. They are making already enough a fool of themselves there, just like in Vietnam, Somalia,...

Goose · 08-01-2004, 10:35 AM

Don't think so, there are better and more lucrative targets in the world, than Iran...and it's all about the profit as we all know!

alexg · 08-01-2004, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Lev
It will never happen. Russia supports Iran and provides Iran with nuclear materials. If the United States attacks Iran it means it is attacking Russia too, which means WWIII will start.

didn't russian support Iraq as well and provide the Iraqis with weapons?

and what if Israel attacks Iran? do you think Russian will go to war against Israel? I don't think so...

Lev · 08-01-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
didn't russian support Iraq as well and provide the Iraqis with weapons?

and what if Israel attacks Iran? do you think Russian will go to war against Israel? I don't think so...

Do not compare Iraq and Iran. Yes, Russia did provide weapons to Iraq and Iraq owed Russia several billions of dollars, but Iran is a different case. Russia currently is helping Iran to build a nuclear station, which is different then selling a couple of Ak's to Iraq. Plus, Iran is closer to Russia than Iraq, which makes Iran a geopolitically important place for Russia. Russia would not want Americans to have presense so close to Russia's borders.

First of all Israel does not have the power to attack a country like Iran. Iran is nothing like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt. Yes, Russia will go to war against Israel for Iran. Israel is just a puppet for the United States, which means it will never attack Iran.

tony286 · 08-01-2004, 04:14 PM

I dont think Iran will be as easy as the Iraqi army was. This is becoming such a mess.

alexg · 08-01-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Lev

First of all Israel does not have the power to attack a country like Iran. Iran is nothing like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt. Yes, Russia will go to war against Israel for Iran. Israel is just a puppet for the United States, which means it will never attack Iran.

we'll see about that in a couple of years if this nuclear reactor plan continues

btw, mind you that Israel won war agaist Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq all together....

rambler · 08-01-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
didn't russian support Iraq as well and provide the Iraqis with weapons?

and what if Israel attacks Iran? do you think Russian will go to war against Israel? I don't think so...

You don't honestly believe that Isreal is that powerfull of a nation on it's own.

Everyone knows that without the huge US financial and military aid that Isreal would be Palestine/Syria land.

Isreal recieves about 80%-%90 of the total US budget for foriegn aid. Which is a whole shitload of money that could make any country look good.

MasterBlogger · 08-01-2004, 04:23 PM

The US already attacked most of the countries in the Iraqi area.

They infected the area with democracy.

You can NOT continuosly teach a population by state controlled television/radio to be anti-American without consequences.

Time is our friend - let democracy grow its roots.

alexg · 08-01-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
You don't honestly believe that Isreal is that powerfull of a nation on it's own.

Everyone knows that without the huge US financial and military aid that Isreal would be Palestine/Syria land.

Isreal recieves about 80%-%90 of the total US budget for foriegn aid. Which is a whole shitload of money that could make any country look good.

where did you get those stats? the US does support Israel and vice versa. It's not like it's something that can change. It is so.

MasterBlogger · 08-01-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
where did you get those stats?
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ya ...
answer the question

baddog · 08-01-2004, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Someone should of been reading the little girl who cried wolf during those 7 minutes.

it was a little boy

rambler · 08-01-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
where did you get those stats? the US does support Israel and vice versa. It's not like it's something that can change. It is so.

Yes the US does support Isreal but how does Isreal support the US; by offering military and intelligence which is paid for by US tax $$... you are also correct that it is something that cannot change until the arabs get rid of thier extremist faction and the Isrealis get rid of thier current gov.(which I do not foresee in the near future)

Too bad though Isreal was so close to peace with that Bill Clinton summit but unfortunately Arafat is an idiot.

baddog · 08-01-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by naughty_weena
it's possible that America will attack not just Iran but whichever country they feel like attacking...

good, I will make sure to divert anyone considering using your company elsewhere

V_RocKs · 08-01-2004, 04:37 PM

Dude... Just because a country wants nuclear capability doesn't mean they are idiots... If it did, we'd be first in line.

baddog · 08-01-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
LOL....

Did you listen to his speech????

" we will not go to war by choice ..."

"by choice" is a pretty vague comment . . .it's like saying I won't call you an idiot unless I have to . . . . idiot

MetaMan · 08-01-2004, 04:39 PM

KILL ALL THE TOWEL HEADS

rambler · 08-01-2004, 04:39 PM

oh about those stats..

I don't really want to search for them but if you want to wait I'm positive I can back them up with reliable sources.(I thought it was common knowledge)

rambler · 08-01-2004, 04:53 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/27/us.israel/

"U.S. and Israeli officials said the request was for $4 billion in extra military assistance and up to $10 billion in loan guarantees for economic programs; at $3 billion a year, Israel already is the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid. "

Isreal is the top recipient of foreign aid but I was incorrect at the 80%-90% figure.. my bad

anyways I'm not taking sides here just showing you that Israel isn't the superior race you think it is

Lev · 08-01-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
we'll see about that in a couple of years if this nuclear reactor plan continues

btw, mind you that Israel won war agaist Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq all together....

Trust me it will continue, it is a too much of a money loss for Russia to let U.S. disrupt this project. Lots of money at stake and America can not do anyting when it comes to Russia and it's interests.

I know that Israel won against Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq in the Six Day War, that is why I mentioned them. But you can not compare Iran with them. Iran has lots of dangerous weapons, including nuclear which it is starting to develop. And plus the backing of Russia, which has an unlimited supply of weapons, tanks ect...

To be off subject, Israel in my opinion is waste of our tax money. It offers nothing to the U.S. in return for the enourmous aid it gets from the U.S. (the most per capita than any other nation in the world). U.S. needs to cut off Israel and then we will see how you people survive, the Arabs will eat you alive in a split of a second. So don't start praising Israel, cause if it wasn't for the powerful Jewish lobby in Washington and the U.S. aid, Israel is nothing. My

directfiesta · 08-01-2004, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
no, because I believe Israel has the best intelligence in the world, and learning from mmistakes from the past, I'm sure a thing like this would be forseen and handled properly

LOL... My father is stronger than yours ....

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Israel's Intelligence Failure & The Iraq War

http://www.ceip.org/files/nonprolif/...sp?NewsID=5739

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The report described Israeli agents' failure to uncover Libya's weapons programme as "intolerable".

"There was a worrying failure when we woke up one clear morning to find out from foreign intelligence services about its gallop toward nuclear weapons that could threaten the very existence of the state of Israel," it said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3576905.stm

And I could continue for pages.... Do your own research.

directfiesta · 08-01-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by alexg

and what if Israel attacks Iran? do you think Russian will go to war against Israel? I don't think so...

And why not???? Does Israel have a secret " get out of jail free" ?????

Didn;t the US with a coalition ( a real one ) go to war to liberate Kuwait from the Iraqi invaders??? Why would it be different id the invaders are Israelis ????

Wake up kiddo.

directfiesta · 08-01-2004, 06:57 PM

fr8 · 08-01-2004, 06:59 PM

Its only a matter of time and then will head after north korea.

BRISK · 08-01-2004, 07:12 PM

If you think the Iraq war cost alot of tax dollars, a war against Iran would be even more.

alexg · 08-02-2004, 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by rambler
Yes the US does support Isreal but how does Isreal support the US; by offering military and intelligence which is paid for by US tax $$... you are also correct that it is something that cannot change until the arabs get rid of thier extremist faction and the Isrealis get rid of thier current gov.(which I do not foresee in the near future)

Too bad though Isreal was so close to peace with that Bill Clinton summit but unfortunately Arafat is an idiot.

At least you acknowledge that Israel was ready to sign peace several times in the past with Arafat and the palestinians refused.

How does Israel support the US? first, Israel is the US's only and best partner in the middle east.

Other then that, Israel has a leading military industry, which is actually SELLING weapons to the United States. Sure, it may be partly funded by the US, but it doesn't mean all credit belongs to the US.

The "Arrow" missile was developed in Israel and is better then the US "Patriot" missile...and this is just one example...

alexg · 08-02-2004, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
And why not???? Does Israel have a secret " get out of jail free" ?????

Didn;t the US with a coalition ( a real one ) go to war to liberate Kuwait from the Iraqi invaders??? Why would it be different id the invaders are Israelis ????

Wake up kiddo.

Simply because I don't believe Israel will invade Iran in the way the US invaded Iraq. Don't forget that Israel is after all a relatively small population, and we don't have many soldiers in comparison to the US.

I do believe that Israel might bomb their nuclear resources (just like it did in Iraq in the past) in the future...

Pleasurepays · 08-02-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Lev
Trust me it will continue, it is a too much of a money loss for Russia to let U.S. disrupt this project. Lots of money at stake and America can not do anyting when it comes to Russia and it's interests.

The reactor (a project of which you seem oblivious to the fact that it has been suspended long ago) is only an 800,000,000.00 million dollar project. The relationship between the US and Russia is well into the billions in trade every year. Russia is billions in debt to the US. The reactor project is not even a consideration. Russia would do exactly like they did with Iraq. Talk tough. Do nothing. Appease all sides in the end to keep the flow of trade and financial aid moving. Thats all Russia can do.

McKracken · 08-02-2004, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
its only a matter of time before we go to war with

iran
north korea
saudi

im not saying in the near future

also lets not forget we will one day be fighting the people we put in power in iraq and in afgan

sad but true the trackrecord does not lie...

McKracken · 08-02-2004, 03:36 AM

if I was the leader of iran i would do the same... I mean how can a country throw stones when they have the candy themselves...? Having nuclear is good protection!

Lauren · 08-02-2004, 03:37 AM

not impossible

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rambler Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 745	I don't think the US will attack Iran if they already have WMD cause it would be too risky; the US will only attack countries that can't retaliate in a serious way which explains why they won't go after N Korea or previously China, Russia etc. They should have attacked Pakistan But Pakistan already has WMD so instead they made friends. I'm not saying that the US are a bunch of cowards because they only go after weak small countries(which is what it looks like) but they are just acting in a manner to preserve thier own interests

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