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Old 07-30-2004, 09:39 AM   #1
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Ibill vs CCBill.....The Main Event

So having read hundreds of useless threads on here, I occasionally come across bits and pieces of usefull information. So I ask this: Which processor is the right choice for a paysite, (my paysite!). CCbill seems cheaper but IBill seems more known? CCbill doesn't do tangibles, (merchandise) and IBill does. Which one has a better reputation, easier interface, better affiliate, better customer service, and BEST LUBE, (as I notice they both like to ram you!), etc... Any thoughts from "experienced" webmasters would be appreciated.

P.S. I am not opposed to looking into other processors, however I am planning on the site being completed in 2-4 weeks and I will be doing alot of research in that time.
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:47 AM   #2
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i'm popping open a beer for this one
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:48 AM   #3
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Have you considered Paycom?
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:50 AM   #4
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Do they have a page in ENGLISH?
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:52 AM   #5
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They both have their ups and downs. But from what I hear the scrubbing with ccbill is rather harsh.

I have accounts with ibill and never had any troubles from them. Of course I didn't use them for web 900 either.
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:52 AM   #6
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Will todays Breaking News have an effect on your decision
This Just in.....................

I-Bill gets a new owner
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:52 AM   #7
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Fuck 'em both. We use Epoch/Paycom.
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:53 AM   #8
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Will todays Breaking News have an effect on your decision
This Just in.....................

I-Bill gets a new owner
I saw that
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:53 AM   #9
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looks like ibill just sold agian
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:00 AM   #10
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I seen that, interesting. Also how hard is it to change processors? Just new software or a major production???
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:22 AM   #11
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Ibill gets more sales for me, and I love their ACH system.
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:23 AM   #12
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Your best solution is to use both.
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:24 AM   #13
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:34 AM   #14
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:50 PM   #15
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Will todays Breaking News have an effect on your decision
This Just in.....................

I-Bill gets a new owner
WTF again.
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:51 PM   #16
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:26 PM   #17
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or you can use netbilling.com

I don't understand why people don't have a merchant account, is it you want to give someone else money that you could be keeping?
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:29 PM   #18
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Netbilling / CCbill is our favorite combo.

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Old 07-30-2004, 02:37 PM   #19
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CCbill seems cheaper but IBill seems more known?
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:41 PM   #20
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Old 07-30-2004, 02:48 PM   #21
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We've never had any problems with Ibill.
Obviously, the more processors you have, the better.
Just be prepared to cough up the $750 for each processor to accept VISA.
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:20 PM   #22
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We've used Ibill for 6 years. They used to have horrible support, and so during the course of those years, we tried other processors. We always came back to Ibill because our signups and especially rebills are much better with Ibill. The money was worth the hassle of bad support.

Recently, their support has gotten much better, so that helps a lot.

However, I just found out about Ibill being sold again, and I'm a bit concerned. I can't help wondering if the new owners might be anti-adult. I hope not.
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Old 08-01-2004, 09:29 PM   #23
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Old 08-01-2004, 09:45 PM   #24
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I've set up multiple processors for my company and I still don't know why people still stick to using Ibill. They had a pretty decent system with their next NexGen stuff a while back, but with all the changes they've pretty much stalled/scrapped that and gone back to their old system, which is pretty antiquated.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:37 AM   #25
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If you have any questions for Epoch / Paycom, please feel free to drop me a line.

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Old 08-02-2004, 10:55 AM   #26
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However, I just found out about Ibill being sold again, and I'm a bit concerned. I can't help wondering if the new owners might be anti-adult. I hope not.
Well they would be real idiots!!!! 70-80% of Ibill business is adult...
I presume they saw that....
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Old 08-02-2004, 11:03 AM   #27
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However, I just found out about Ibill being sold again, and I'm a bit concerned. I can't help wondering if the new owners might be anti-adult. I hope not.
Incase you missed Friday's IBill thread ... IBill SOLD.... AGAIN!!!!
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This is something we have been working on for some time and are very excited about. At the end of the day it gets us on the American Stock Exchange which will do a number of things for us including access to significant additional capital to continue to invest in and grow the business. I can?t go into all of the details but the existing management team here will be running the show.

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