Congrats!

I bet this makes IBill happy though cause now they get to the only "2nd Option" for paycom clients.

Right Rick!

The proof is simple: look at the numbers. In this business you are either over or under thresholds, created by some arbitrary reasoning. We are below 1%, WELL below. That means that even in a marketplace where Visa and MC admit 80% of chargebacks and credits are from ?friendly fraud? (we have never understood to whom the fraud is friendly) we are below their thresholds. So where is the risk if 99.5% of all consumers we (and you) sell to are happy? There is none, as long as the overal risk management is being watched, constantly.

I bet that there are not many businesses in the world that can boast those kinds of numbers. When I was in the nightclub business the chargebacks were a higher percentage!

So cross sells and the like are not the problems IPSP's or you as a webmaster may face; In fact, there is no problem!

C

No, the only real option is CCBill, imho.

C

congrats :drinkup i've only met one person from epoch (rand) but he was totally cool.

Congrats :thumbsup

hey ron.. remember last year i called kimmy kim a c u n t and you shut down my ccbill account.. but I am back with ccbill again as my seciondary processor.. glad you like me now.

you have to use epic cams now you dick head.

I want to take a moment to personally congratulate Chris Mallick on his continuing efforts to improve the billing side (as well as many other sides) of this Industry. The purchase of the credit card side of Jettis signals several positive elements for not only the current Jettis customers, the current Paycom customers, but billing as a whole.

I have known Chris for several years, long before his entrance into this space. He is a Man of integrity, conviction, and vision. For those of you who do not know as well, I would like to assure you all that while this is big news, and a huge Industry change, it is for the best for all of us, and we could not be in better hands. It is and has been Chris's vision to improve this side of the business for all webmasters, and his actions now speak louder than his words.

If you do not know Chris Mallick, I would encourage you to take the time and effort and get to know him. He made a pledge to the partners at Paycom at long time ago, to myself, and to this Industry, and he is someone who has put his money (not to mention his time, blood, sweat, and tears) where his mouth is.

Paycom has always been a good company with both Clay and Joel at the helm. With your addition to that team Chris, and the products and services you have added to the group, you are all now, without question the Industry leader.

Chris: It is a pleasure to watch you work.

Congratulations to Paycom as a group, Clay, Joel and Chris as individuals, and to all of us who make our money in this space. We are in a better position today, than we were yesterday, and it's hard to ask more from your billing company.

Johnny V.
Porn Posse

A Good Day for Epoch/Paycom/Jettis and A Great Day for Our Industry

Chris, Clay, Joel, Rand, Kjell and Ken - Congratulations on engineering a merger that makes good business sense and benefits our entire industry.

Being massive matters. It gives you two things: a better product and higher impact.

Together you can do more for webmasters and end users than you could separately - with the same number of people. The product improves and your margins, too. Webmasters working with Epoch/Paycom get the advantages of areas where Jettis is world class, and vice-versa. So webmasters benefit.

It means you have influence. You are engaged in one of the most important fights on behalf of webmasters - the right to charge end users for access with a credit card. We are thrilled that the heavyweight champ of credit card billing has added bulk and extended his reach to better fight for the adult online industry.

We, at Nocreditcard.com, have been delighted by our partnership with you since the beginning. We know the value of being the largest - in our case, as telecom billing provider (dialer + sms) - and look forward to an even better product and a stronger voice for the adult online industry.

Mitch Platt

North American Sales Manager
Nocreditcard.Com
One2one.Com

p.s. Looking forward to seeing all of you Friday at InterNext after the Dialer seminar at the VIP Nocreditcard.com Scotch and Cigar Party! http://vip.nocreditcard.com

Hey, that was two years ago, after I had left the company ;)

Now icq me, I want to talk to you about something else hahahaha

I want to Use Epoch for processing for our new paysitesites, but since I'm not US or EU based,
(I'm in Southeastern Europe),
is it possible to use Epoch for processing for all other CC except VISA?

I really need this answered.

Congratulations to Epoch/Paycom for this big step.
:thumbsup

I don't see any positive from this.

It might be good for Jettis and Epoch, but why is it any good for the end user?

We lost another merchant, another choice to get scrubbed differently.

The only thing positive for users is the 'security' you feel for choosing Epoch. Big deal, are you less insecure now? I mean, if Jettis left the business, there's a reason.

Bonus, Epoch deals only with US corporations. Now don't even think of moving your business offshore.

To the folks at Paycom,

Congratulations on the transition.

I have been very impressed with the level of support we have received from Epoch so far. They are making the transition as seemless as possible.

I do have a support question in to you guys regarding affiliate linking codes, perhaps I can get a faster response here.

Once we change our join pages over to Epoch, will our Jettis linking codes work? Actually, that translates to two questions:

1) Where do we find information regarding what our new linking codes should be?

2) What will happen to our affiliates' archived galleries and the linking codes they contain?

Hope to meet the Epoch team in person at Internext. I'll be on the newbie seminar panel, please stop by and say hi.

APN Philip

WOW! some very big news!

Hello easy01,

I can assist you with your questions , please feel free to contact me directly at 310/577-2439.

Thank you
Amparo

To draw out my questions a bit more, please let me know if these assumptions are correct:


1) I am to change over my join pages from Jettis's to Epoch's.

2) After I have the Epoch join pages in place, the existing Jettis linking codes will still continue to function.

3) All new affiliates should sign up under Epoch's affiliate system so they can use Epoch linking codes in their new galleries. Or can they continue to sign up using the Jettis affiliate sign up form?

4) Existing affiliates will continue to use Jettis's report system at: http://affiliate.billingservices.com/login.php

5) Billing services such as cancellations, username/password lookups, member additions, etc. will now be handled through Epoch's reports system for all transactions, both past and future.


Thanks,
APN Philip

APN Philip.. you get any answers yet?

We haven't either:(

Great news, Congratulations :thumbsup

I am totally agree.

Stuff doesnt look good. 1 more company out.
Not good at all.

Good one
http://affiliate.billingservices.com/login.php is already down.

BTW that JUMBO will become available into epoch is great. Because the epoch stats were not that best. And Jumbo is great!

Andre

I got a few answers. Supposedly we don't have to do much. As I undertand it, the transactions will be billed by Epoch at which time the Jettis stats will get populated. However, I know a bunch of our rebills aren't showing up on either side which is a little disconcerting. Don't know if they are being batched or what...

Can someone maybe answer that?

It may be that they are still working out some of the bugs. I know Nasty Dollars switched everything over to Epoch, including their join pages...perhaps we'll do the same.

Nothing like just paying 750.00 to Jettis and never processing one transaction with them only for this to happen. Let me guess....Jettis never knew this deal was in the works or was even closed prior to companies shelling over 750.00 within the last couple of months.

:thumbsup could not agree with you more :thumbsup

That must surely suck. But if they told you, the word would have gotten out and the deal wouldn't have gone through...If they DIDN'T take your money without giving you a reason, people would be on the boards screaming that they're about to go out of business.

So it was probably best for them to keep their mouths shut and take the money. HOWEVER, they should now refund the people who paid.

Good post :thumbsup could not agree more.
Visa don't give a flying fuck how big you are. Porn is really a small percent of there business.

The funniest part is they're still advertising here on GFY!

:1orglaugh


You going to be in Florida Alex?

We are very happy having our own merchant accounts and not relying on someone elses. It is a good piece of mind being more in control.

Z

No, I'm not but Andre will be there representing us.

Never knew that, please let me know my flight details :Graucho

Andre

Wow, this is big. Chris M is a giant.

150

APN Philip..

We have the same problem with missing a few days of rebills and have recieved no answers either. BUT.. I did notice the days before the change/announcement that we had some monster reccurring sales show up. I've look at some of the detail and it looks like they ran this weeks scheduled recurring... last week.

Take a look.

Ditto... I'm sure they'll sort it out. Have worked with both companiess have only had great experiences with each.

Ya, noticed that... Anyhow, thanks for the info and looking forward to meeting you guys in Mex!