| boobmaster |
07-30-2004 08:20 PM |
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Originally posted by mal
boobmaster, please show us show real proof that "god" exists. do you have photos of "god"? why didnt he/she videotape themself writing a new bible? if this "god" really wanted humans to worship him/her then why wouldnt "god" show himself/herself? do you really think your "god" gives a fuck about humans when he/she watches thousands of people die each day from starvation, disease and murder? why didnt "god" stop the people from burning the cat on CJ? :1orglaugh
we want real proof. dont quote shit from some 2000 year old book.
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In none of my responses have I quoted from the bible. The reason for this is that in order for anything in the bible to have force in an argument, the bible must first be accepted as an authortative doceument by both parties involved in the argument. You don't accept it. Therefore, nothing I say based on it will support my case to you.
The question I am asking is whether it is reasonable to accept the premise that a higher power exists in the first place. If we can't agree on that, it is useless to argue about who that higher power might be, Jesus or whoever.
Your argument against the existence of god is a typical one, based on the reasonable assumption that a loving God would not allow evil to exist in the world. This has been argued many times before, over hundreds of years, by philosophers and scientists alike. The problem with it, however, is that is assumes that a a good God and an evil world cannot coexist, that a good God would not permit a world to become evil, because, after all, he is a good God.
This does not take into account the nature of free will, which the bible says God gave to man. Free will allows man to freely choose freely between good and evil. It is not God who causes evil in the world. It is man. God did not set that cat fire. Two assholes did. Evil exists as a choice, but not one condoned by God. The bible say that God weeps when man suffers. Man causes his own suffering. |
