Senate to try to outlaw iPods today

[mardigras]

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0...w=wn_tophead_1
And any other device that might induce copyright infringement.

[strats]

holy fuck

[hydro]

tons of people will be pissed

[mardigras]

My error, that article referred to last Thursday. Haven't heard anything else about it.

[Fabuleux]

That would include VCR, DVD+/-R, CD-R, etc., etc.

Complete bullshit imho.

[Lensman]

I think it's about peer to peer networks. And outlawing them would be a good thing for those of us who spend millions producing content, just to have it stolen and posted on p2ps.

[mardigras]

Here's an article that goes more into Senator Hatch's INDUCE act. It involves much more than p2p.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2384178

[Shoehorn!]

Didn't they learn anything from the Napster case? They can never stop piracy, they are only wasting their time and our money trying.

[tony286]

and who started the bill a republican imagine that lol.

[Tom_PMs]

Too busy to post.... burning my cassette tapes.... omg omg omg

[Fabuleux]

Originally posted by Lensman
I think it's about peer to peer networks. And outlawing them would be a good thing for those of us who spend millions producing content, just to have it stolen and posted on p2ps.

I think everybody should be happy the day p2p networks are shutdown. I wonder how much sales are lsot because of them.

[Bryan Havoc]

It didn't say anything about pirated 8-tracks in there, so I'm safe.

[Mojo Rizin]

I still find it funny that one of the most successful bands in history, The Grateful Dead, encourage bootlegging and trading of their music.

A prime example that trading of music is not always a bad thing

[fiftyfingers]

Either way, that's pretty lame. We should outlaw people because we all "might" induce copyright infringement by existing.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
I think everybody should be happy the day p2p networks are shutdown. I wonder how much sales are lsot because of them.

Let's just shut down the internet then. I've seen many songs available on webpages. If I have made a video myself or a band/musician has a song they want to share p2p is the best way to do it.

Here's a quote from the chairman of the RIAA:
"Bainwol pledges that his industry group would not go after MP3 player manufacturers like Apple, but this wouldn?t prevent others from doing so under the legislation."

From Senator Hatch:
"If you help us, we just might get it [INDUCE] right, but if you don't, we're going to do it [anyway]," Hatch is quoted as saying in a Washington Post story.

Hatch who was accused of using unlicensed software on his website earlier wanted to OK a plan that would allow the remote destruction of computers used by suspected copyright infringers.

[tony286]

The music industry doesnt want to look at the real reason why sales are down. Their product is overpriced one good song per cd crap.

[slapass]

Originally posted by Mojo Rizin
I still find it funny that one of the most successful bands in history, The Grateful Dead, encourage bootlegging and trading of their music.

A prime example that trading of music is not always a bad thing

They toured 365 days a year and the guy died in his 50's. The business model might not have been that great.


Also they did shutdown Napster. Go look now it is a paysite.

[Mojo Rizin]

Originally posted by slapass
They toured 365 days a year and the guy died in his 50's. The business model might not have been that great.


Also they did shutdown Napster. Go look now it is a paysite.

A. the guy died from heroin, or related causes not from touring

B. The Grateful Dead have ALWAYS maintained a stance that trading of their music was fine as long as it was not for commercial gain

[Alex From San Diego]

I wonder if that goes for 8 Tracks as well....

I'll be pissed if I have to remove my 8 track player from my 71 Chevy Impala....I've had that car since I was a junior in high school back in 1979.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
I wonder if that goes for 8 Tracks as well....

I'll be pissed if I have to remove my 8 track player from my 71 Chevy Impala....I've had that car since I was a junior in high school back in 1979.

Are your tapes recorded copies (not factory originals)? I would think the crime would be considered to have happened in the 70's, not now... You better hope the statute of limitations has run out

[korzon]

[Project-Shadow]

It mentions outlawing P2P, to most of the people they are already 'outlawed' but people use them anyway. They should try harder with the legal music downloads and spend less time and tax money on stopping it.. essentially we are still paying for the piracy

[mardigras]

If it's only about p2p why are Google and Yahoo 2 of the main entities actively opposing it?

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
That would include VCR, DVD+/-R, CD-R, etc., etc.

Complete bullshit imho.

Not to mention photocopy machines....fax machines...cameras....video cameras...LOL the list goes on.

[TheJimmy]

time to vote those morons out...



woops, that would imply that people were smart enough to vote out morons...well our first test of that will be come November...

[Dildozer]

Typical American stupidity

[Fabuleux]

Originally posted by mardigras
Let's just shut down the internet then. I've seen many songs available on webpages. If I have made a video myself or a band/musician has a song they want to share p2p is the best way to do it.

Here's a quote from the chairman of the RIAA:
"Bainwol pledges that his industry group would not go after MP3 player manufacturers like Apple, but this wouldn?t prevent others from doing so under the legislation."

From Senator Hatch:
"If you help us, we just might get it [INDUCE] right, but if you don't, we're going to do it [anyway]," Hatch is quoted as saying in a Washington Post story.

Hatch who was accused of using unlicensed software on his website earlier wanted to OK a plan that would allow the remote destruction of computers used by suspected copyright infringers.

Download some p2p software, search for "Milfhunter" and download every movie ever released in full lenght and quility. Don't tell me that ain't hurting us. And there are lots of other ways to distribute your band demo's.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
Download some p2p software, search for "Milfhunter" and download every movie ever released in full lenght and quility. Don't tell me that ain't hurting us. And there are lots of other ways to distribute your band demo's.

If you read the articles I posted you'll see that p2p is only a portion of what this is about. Here's another one:
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/35400.html

For those of you who think this is a good thing, better not be using p2p yourself if you have a single copyrighted file, a federal appeals judge just overturned a ruling and said ISPs must give up names and addresses of suspected infringers.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=business

And going slightly off-topic, here's how to use the RIAA to crush your competition:
http://p2pnet.net/story/2015

[strats]

oink, need to see that movie.. hey why am i thinkng that.. hrmm.. yeah, media owns.. ack cant breathe.

[FlyingIguana]

any other device that might?

so vcr's, pc's, and such will be gone?

it'll never happen

[mardigras]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
any other device that might?

so vcr's, pc's, and such will be gone?

it'll never happen

VCRs won't matter. When they get everyone forced over to digital TV the content producer will be able to prevent you from recording anyway.

[Rochard]

Wouldn't this law outlaw computers? I mean hell, anyone can copy a CD these days.....

[mardigras]

Originally posted by RocHard
Wouldn't this law outlaw computers? I mean hell, anyone can copy a CD these days.....

Well, people have been sneaking camcorders into movie theaters to record new films, so Senator Hatch would like to tell you no more home movies of little Johnny's birthday party