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  • mardigras
    Bon temps!
    • Feb 2003
    • 14194

    #1

    Senate to try to outlaw iPods today

    http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0...w=wn_tophead_1
    And any other device that might induce copyright infringement.
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  • strats
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2004
    • 1805

    #2
    holy fuck

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    • hydro
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 4216

      #3
      tons of people will be pissed

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      • mardigras
        Bon temps!
        • Feb 2003
        • 14194

        #4
        My error, that article referred to last Thursday. Haven't heard anything else about it.
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        • Fabuleux
          Confirmed User
          • May 2003
          • 2543

          #5
          That would include VCR, DVD+/-R, CD-R, etc., etc.

          Complete bullshit imho.

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          • Lensman
            GFY Chaperone
            • Jan 2001
            • 9846

            #6
            I think it's about peer to peer networks. And outlawing them would be a good thing for those of us who spend millions producing content, just to have it stolen and posted on p2ps.

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            • mardigras
              Bon temps!
              • Feb 2003
              • 14194

              #7
              Here's an article that goes more into Senator Hatch's INDUCE act. It involves much more than p2p.

              http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2384178
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              • Shoehorn!
                Die With Your Boots On
                • Oct 2003
                • 22872

                #8
                Didn't they learn anything from the Napster case? They can never stop piracy, they are only wasting their time and our money trying.

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                • tony299
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #9
                  and who started the bill a republican imagine that lol.

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                  • Tom_PMs
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2049

                    #10
                    Too busy to post.... burning my cassette tapes.... omg omg omg

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                    • Fabuleux
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                      • May 2003
                      • 2543

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lensman
                      I think it's about peer to peer networks. And outlawing them would be a good thing for those of us who spend millions producing content, just to have it stolen and posted on p2ps.
                      I think everybody should be happy the day p2p networks are shutdown. I wonder how much sales are lsot because of them.

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                      • Bryan Havoc
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 784

                        #12
                        It didn't say anything about pirated 8-tracks in there, so I'm safe.
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                        • Mojo Rizin
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1089

                          #13
                          I still find it funny that one of the most successful bands in history, The Grateful Dead, encourage bootlegging and trading of their music.

                          A prime example that trading of music is not always a bad thing

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                          • fiftyfingers
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                            • Apr 2004
                            • 582

                            #14
                            Either way, that's pretty lame. We should outlaw people because we all "might" induce copyright infringement by existing.
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                            • mardigras
                              Bon temps!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 14194

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fabuleux
                              I think everybody should be happy the day p2p networks are shutdown. I wonder how much sales are lsot because of them.
                              Let's just shut down the internet then. I've seen many songs available on webpages. If I have made a video myself or a band/musician has a song they want to share p2p is the best way to do it.

                              Here's a quote from the chairman of the RIAA:
                              "Bainwol pledges that his industry group would not go after MP3 player manufacturers like Apple, but this wouldn?t prevent others from doing so under the legislation."

                              From Senator Hatch:
                              "If you help us, we just might get it [INDUCE] right, but if you don't, we're going to do it [anyway]," Hatch is quoted as saying in a Washington Post story.

                              Hatch who was accused of using unlicensed software on his website earlier wanted to OK a plan that would allow the remote destruction of computers used by suspected copyright infringers.
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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                The music industry doesnt want to look at the real reason why sales are down. Their product is overpriced one good song per cd crap.

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                                • slapass
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 14625

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mojo Rizin
                                  I still find it funny that one of the most successful bands in history, The Grateful Dead, encourage bootlegging and trading of their music.

                                  A prime example that trading of music is not always a bad thing
                                  They toured 365 days a year and the guy died in his 50's. The business model might not have been that great.


                                  Also they did shutdown Napster. Go look now it is a paysite.

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                                  • Mojo Rizin
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 1089

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by slapass
                                    They toured 365 days a year and the guy died in his 50's. The business model might not have been that great.


                                    Also they did shutdown Napster. Go look now it is a paysite.
                                    A. the guy died from heroin, or related causes not from touring

                                    B. The Grateful Dead have ALWAYS maintained a stance that trading of their music was fine as long as it was not for commercial gain

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                                    • Alex From San Diego
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 1642

                                      #19
                                      I wonder if that goes for 8 Tracks as well....

                                      I'll be pissed if I have to remove my 8 track player from my 71 Chevy Impala....I've had that car since I was a junior in high school back in 1979.
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                                      • mardigras
                                        Bon temps!
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 14194

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
                                        I wonder if that goes for 8 Tracks as well....

                                        I'll be pissed if I have to remove my 8 track player from my 71 Chevy Impala....I've had that car since I was a junior in high school back in 1979.
                                        Are your tapes recorded copies (not factory originals)? I would think the crime would be considered to have happened in the 70's, not now... You better hope the statute of limitations has run out
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                                        • korzon
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                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 1524

                                          #21

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                                          • Project-Shadow
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                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 7340

                                            #22
                                            It mentions outlawing P2P, to most of the people they are already 'outlawed' but people use them anyway. They should try harder with the legal music downloads and spend less time and tax money on stopping it.. essentially we are still paying for the piracy

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                                            • mardigras
                                              Bon temps!
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 14194

                                              #23
                                              If it's only about p2p why are Google and Yahoo 2 of the main entities actively opposing it?
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                                              • eroswebmaster
                                                March 1st, 2003
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 20295

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fabuleux
                                                That would include VCR, DVD+/-R, CD-R, etc., etc.

                                                Complete bullshit imho.
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                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 10747

                                                  #25
                                                  time to vote those morons out...



                                                  woops, that would imply that people were smart enough to vote out morons...well our first test of that will be come November...
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                                                  • Dildozer
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                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 7519

                                                    #26
                                                    Typical American stupidity
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                                                    • Fabuleux
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 2543

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by mardigras
                                                      Let's just shut down the internet then. I've seen many songs available on webpages. If I have made a video myself or a band/musician has a song they want to share p2p is the best way to do it.

                                                      Here's a quote from the chairman of the RIAA:
                                                      "Bainwol pledges that his industry group would not go after MP3 player manufacturers like Apple, but this wouldn?t prevent others from doing so under the legislation."

                                                      From Senator Hatch:
                                                      "If you help us, we just might get it [INDUCE] right, but if you don't, we're going to do it [anyway]," Hatch is quoted as saying in a Washington Post story.

                                                      Hatch who was accused of using unlicensed software on his website earlier wanted to OK a plan that would allow the remote destruction of computers used by suspected copyright infringers.
                                                      Download some p2p software, search for "Milfhunter" and download every movie ever released in full lenght and quility. Don't tell me that ain't hurting us. And there are lots of other ways to distribute your band demo's.

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                                                      • mardigras
                                                        Bon temps!
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 14194

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Fabuleux
                                                        Download some p2p software, search for "Milfhunter" and download every movie ever released in full lenght and quility. Don't tell me that ain't hurting us. And there are lots of other ways to distribute your band demo's.
                                                        If you read the articles I posted you'll see that p2p is only a portion of what this is about. Here's another one:
                                                        http://www.technewsworld.com/story/35400.html

                                                        For those of you who think this is a good thing, better not be using p2p yourself if you have a single copyrighted file, a federal appeals judge just overturned a ruling and said ISPs must give up names and addresses of suspected infringers.
                                                        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=business

                                                        And going slightly off-topic, here's how to use the RIAA to crush your competition:
                                                        http://p2pnet.net/story/2015
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                                                        • strats
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 1805

                                                          #29
                                                          oink, need to see that movie.. hey why am i thinkng that.. hrmm.. yeah, media owns.. ack cant breathe.

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                                                          • FlyingIguana
                                                            aspiring banker
                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 10870

                                                            #30
                                                            any other device that might?

                                                            so vcr's, pc's, and such will be gone?

                                                            it'll never happen

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                                                            • mardigras
                                                              Bon temps!
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 14194

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                              any other device that might?

                                                              so vcr's, pc's, and such will be gone?

                                                              it'll never happen
                                                              VCRs won't matter. When they get everyone forced over to digital TV the content producer will be able to prevent you from recording anyway.
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                                                              • Rochard
                                                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 75733

                                                                #32
                                                                Wouldn't this law outlaw computers? I mean hell, anyone can copy a CD these days.....
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                                                                • mardigras
                                                                  Bon temps!
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 14194

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                  Wouldn't this law outlaw computers? I mean hell, anyone can copy a CD these days.....
                                                                  Well, people have been sneaking camcorders into movie theaters to record new films, so Senator Hatch would like to tell you no more home movies of little Johnny's birthday party
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