PPS or Revshare or both? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ice · 07-27-2004, 07:28 PM

Do you think one is better than the other or do you offer both to affiliate that promote you?

Please discuss pros and cons of each....

Global Dialers · 07-27-2004, 07:30 PM

fr8 · 07-27-2004, 07:30 PM

Are you looking for an Affiliate response or a program owners responce?

pushpills · 07-27-2004, 07:32 PM

if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

Ice · 07-27-2004, 07:33 PM

Program owners response mostly but hearing what affiliates like more isn't bad either

GTS Mark · 07-27-2004, 07:34 PM

I do a bit of both, I'm kind of moving more towards PPS now as the recurring sponsors I am using as of late have not been fantastic in regards to keeping them recurring.

DH

slapass · 07-27-2004, 07:34 PM

PPS is better then revshare for webmasters almost always.

LittleMack · 07-27-2004, 07:35 PM

We offer both PPS and Revshare at Pornkings. For me speaking as an affiliate, I prefer Revshare over PPS. The reason I like RevShare is that the opportunity of rebills usually pays out more than an initial PPS sale. It gives me the flexibility to chose how I want the payout to be. The rebills I usually experience are avg 3-6 months per signup and that is larger than a $30 payout. Just my

Now from a sponser standpoint I feel that the offering of a flexible payout system will help draw and keep affiliates. If one system is not working then another one can be selected.

07-27-2004, 07:37 PM

Both.

A program with high retention is great for months of income...Especially when you make 15-20 dollars each month for the life of the member. I have a few GREAT revshare sites that I promote that make me a few grand per month JUST in rebills. As long as the processor stays afloat, the trend should continue for quite some time.

As far as PPS... It's great if you have a site that converts high and pays on trials. This is a great option when the site is plugin /upsell heavy without much exclusive content. I've been making a killing with PPS programs. I've mixed 4 days of PPS with 3 days of revshare per week and so far it's a great balance.

Ice · 07-27-2004, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I do a bit of both, I'm kind of moving more towards PPS now as the recurring sponsors I am using as of late have not been fantastic in regards to keeping them recurring.

DH

If you look at what say.... skintraffic is doing to retain members then revshave might look better.... I posted another thread about member retention on GFY which kinda ties into this thread.

Reak · 07-27-2004, 07:39 PM

Both

Adultfriendfinder - Revshare
70% PPS - 25% Revshare - 5% Pay per click

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-27-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills
if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

Ice · 07-27-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills
if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

Hit me up on icq GROGAN and I'll explain how much of a fucking idiot I am. I have posted on the boards about you, not what you know or do in this industry. GFY is GFY and business is business. I'll call someone an idiot on gfy and do business with them off gfy. So until you know what I fucking do STFU

icq 1904905

Drake · 07-27-2004, 07:46 PM

I think offering both is ideal. It's difficult to conclusively say one is better than the other because much of that decision making has to do with the site that's being promoted and the affiliate's preference and/or lifestyle.

For quick cash and lots of it upfront PPS is the way to go. And it's hard to argue against this preference. Once you have your money in your hand that's always a good thing and you don't wait over a period of time for recurrings to kick in.

Recurring is better suited to affiliates that are willing or able to wait to reap the greater cash rewards of recurring members.

Both models have their potential pitfalls so it's really an affiliate's discretion as to which to choose.

Ice · 07-27-2004, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski

troll

pxxx · 07-27-2004, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Hit me up on icq GROGAN and I'll explain how much of a fucking idiot I am. I have posted on the boards about you, not what you know or do in this industry. GFY is GFY and business is business. I'll call someone an idiot on gfy and do business with them off gfy. So until you know what I fucking do STFU

icq 1904905

Sounds reasonable enough to me. Most people still haven't learned how to seperate GFY from businesss. Many also need to learn how to not take shit people say to them on GFY to the heart.

-Greg

wyldblyss · 07-27-2004, 07:51 PM

I prefer sponsors who offer both. I like to keep a mix. PPS for short term benifits while the Revshare grows.

jimmyf · 07-27-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills
if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-27-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
troll

don't make me quote grogan again, fuckwit.

jimmyf · 07-27-2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Hit me up on icq GROGAN and I'll explain how much of a fucking idiot I am. I have posted on the boards about you, not what you know or do in this industry. GFY is GFY and business is business. I'll call someone an idiot on gfy and do business with them off gfy. So until you know what I fucking do STFU

icq 1904905

good

xclusive · 07-27-2004, 08:03 PM

PPS and Revshare along with ppc are all valid revenue streams. I say it depends on the program. I would start with pps and the go to revshare once you know how to pick and promote a program. Because if people are not going to sign up for the program you wont do well. So that's my advice hope it helps someone.

Monique Niccole · 07-27-2004, 08:03 PM

What's a PPS?

From an affiliate standpoint, I like to mix it up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Go for some PPS sponsors for the faster money and go with sites that are hot and you know will retain for some long revshare money. In the long run, of course, a good rev share sponsor will make you more money than a PPS.

From a program owner standpoint, I believe that strong rev share site are the way to go and offer up private PPS deals to webmasters who have proven themselves able to generate significant sign-ups.

Ice · 07-27-2004, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Afrekete
What's a PPS?

Ask SlickCashSarah... I think she knows now

Sausage · 07-27-2004, 08:50 PM

PPS for all large programs

Revshare for unsaturated, full price join, microniche sites. You will make up to two times as much as PPS.

pushpills · 07-27-2004, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Hit me up on icq GROGAN and I'll explain how much of a fucking idiot I am. I have posted on the boards about you, not what you know or do in this industry. GFY is GFY and business is business. I'll call someone an idiot on gfy and do business with them off gfy. So until you know what I fucking do STFU

icq 1904905

Fine, and my biggest pisser posters have turned out to be my biggest friends in this biz.

But, All I know is basically, what you DON'T know.

Not sure what business I have to do with you, unless you want to sell me your traffic at a discount rate and watch me make 10x more than you did with it.

pushpills · 07-27-2004, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sausage
PPS for all large programs

Revshare for unsaturated, full price join, microniche sites. You will make up to two times as much as PPS.

Well vanilla ice here should be glad someone actually told him, s I wouldnt, but only because he has such an attitude and I have no real reason to give him advice.

EZRhino · 07-27-2004, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills
if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

I hear anger in your post. Relax, some people may learn something.

Pornwolf · 07-27-2004, 10:52 PM

It depends on the program.

Morgan · 07-27-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
It depends on the program.

mostly the sites themselves.

shitty, non-exclusive/cookie cutter site = better to go PPS.

exclusive, original content site = better to go revshare.

zanycash Pete · 07-27-2004, 11:16 PM

Both! but I have a feeling most sponsors will eventually go to Rev Share!

07-27-2004, 07:28 PM	#1
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07-27-2004, 07:33 PM	#5
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07-27-2004, 07:35 PM	#8
LittleMack www.pornkings.com Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Baby!! Posts: 4,645	We offer both PPS and Revshare at Pornkings. For me speaking as an affiliate, I prefer Revshare over PPS. The reason I like RevShare is that the opportunity of rebills usually pays out more than an initial PPS sale. It gives me the flexibility to chose how I want the payout to be. The rebills I usually experience are avg 3-6 months per signup and that is larger than a $30 payout. Just my Now from a sponser standpoint I feel that the offering of a flexible payout system will help draw and keep affiliates. If one system is not working then another one can be selected. __________________ [email protected] Last edited by LittleMack; 07-27-2004 at 07:38 PM..

07-27-2004, 07:32 PM	#4
pushpills Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 3,700	if you haven't figured it out, you're a fucking idiot, so who wants to explain shit to a dumbshit like you?

07-27-2004, 07:34 PM	#6
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I do a bit of both, I'm kind of moving more towards PPS now as the recurring sponsors I am using as of late have not been fantastic in regards to keeping them recurring. DH

07-27-2004, 07:34 PM	#7
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	PPS is better then revshare for webmasters almost always.

07-27-2004, 07:37 PM	#9
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Both. A program with high retention is great for months of income...Especially when you make 15-20 dollars each month for the life of the member. I have a few GREAT revshare sites that I promote that make me a few grand per month JUST in rebills. As long as the processor stays afloat, the trend should continue for quite some time. As far as PPS... It's great if you have a site that converts high and pays on trials. This is a great option when the site is plugin /upsell heavy without much exclusive content. I've been making a killing with PPS programs. I've mixed 4 days of PPS with 3 days of revshare per week and so far it's a great balance.

07-27-2004, 07:39 PM	#11
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	Both Adultfriendfinder - Revshare 70% PPS - 25% Revshare - 5% Pay per click

07-27-2004, 07:46 PM	#14
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I think offering both is ideal. It's difficult to conclusively say one is better than the other because much of that decision making has to do with the site that's being promoted and the affiliate's preference and/or lifestyle. For quick cash and lots of it upfront PPS is the way to go. And it's hard to argue against this preference. Once you have your money in your hand that's always a good thing and you don't wait over a period of time for recurrings to kick in. Recurring is better suited to affiliates that are willing or able to wait to reap the greater cash rewards of recurring members. Both models have their potential pitfalls so it's really an affiliate's discretion as to which to choose.

07-27-2004, 07:51 PM	#17
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	I prefer sponsors who offer both. I like to keep a mix. PPS for short term benifits while the Revshare grows.

07-27-2004, 08:03 PM	#21
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	PPS and Revshare along with ppc are all valid revenue streams. I say it depends on the program. I would start with pps and the go to revshare once you know how to pick and promote a program. Because if people are not going to sign up for the program you wont do well. So that's my advice hope it helps someone.

07-27-2004, 08:03 PM	#22
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	What's a PPS? From an affiliate standpoint, I like to mix it up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Go for some PPS sponsors for the faster money and go with sites that are hot and you know will retain for some long revshare money. In the long run, of course, a good rev share sponsor will make you more money than a PPS. From a program owner standpoint, I believe that strong rev share site are the way to go and offer up private PPS deals to webmasters who have proven themselves able to generate significant sign-ups.

07-27-2004, 08:50 PM	#24
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	PPS for all large programs Revshare for unsaturated, full price join, microniche sites. You will make up to two times as much as PPS.

07-27-2004, 10:52 PM	#28
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	It depends on the program. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

07-27-2004, 11:16 PM	#30
zanycash Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,023	Both! but I have a feeling most sponsors will eventually go to Rev Share! __________________ $45 Per Join or 60/40 Rev Share! New Fresh Hosted Galleries And High Quality/Converting Sites! Free Hosting, Free Content, Awsome Free Hosted Gallery Generator! ICQ#249-429-941