How much does the average paysite earn for its owners - GoFuckYourself.com

Frank The Tank · 07-26-2004, 07:47 AM

an average decent converting paysite - how much with good promotion would one expect to be earning normally - any rough ideas would be good

Roald · 07-26-2004, 07:49 AM

$1.200.325 but thats a real rough number

But seriously it is hard to say, too many factors

riosluts · 07-26-2004, 07:50 AM

an amateur one or a professional one?
it all depends

also depends on the niche, content, advertisers. Too many factors to consider this

Aquarius · 07-26-2004, 07:51 AM

It's all about the rebills, good exclusive content should do it, especially with a very tight niche. Hard to give an average.

Frank The Tank · 07-26-2004, 07:53 AM

exclusive content on a NEW niche .. have a great idea in the pipeline which will be very unique and different

Reak · 07-26-2004, 07:53 AM

I think the average paysite owner has about 200 to 300 members in his or her paysite.

Pays 50% to the affiliate from the total money he or she makes

~ 250 x ~30 = $7500
- 50% to affiliate = $3750
- 10% (ibill) costs = $3375
- hosting/content/updates/plugins

About ~ $2500 left for the owner

I forget the rebills

Reak · 07-26-2004, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by riosluts
an amateur one or a professional one?
it all depends

also depends on the niche, content, advertisers. Too many factors to consider this

a average paysite

Frank The Tank · 07-26-2004, 10:15 AM

well of course its not going to be an average paysite ;) a very good unique one

Jakke PNG · 07-26-2004, 10:17 AM

anything from
minus 5000 per month to millions per month.
Depends on the volume of traffic you get on your own, the amount of active affiliates, the design, the rebills, the cost of content and plugins and so forth. That is a question I don't think has an answer.

Trax · 07-26-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
That is a question I don't think has an answer.

exactly

tell me how anyone here (apart from processors) is about to know what the "average" paysite generates?

ShaneRyale · 07-26-2004, 10:34 AM

For us it's all about good affiliates and great content. We've been around for a long time and have many thousands of members. We've always created our own quality exclusive content in our niche. We really focus on one major niche instead of spreading ourselves thin on a lot of different sites. We are now in a position after many years of being an established site that we are starting to grow and span out without losing the quality of our main niche content. Also, since we spend so much time and effort on that, our site converts VERY well and retains even better, so the affiliates we have are very loyal and have been making alot of money with us for several years.

As far as a number goes, it's going to be difficult to make a figure, but you have to weigh which is better, you can buy content for almost nothing now days, but your retention will be lower, or you can make exclusive content which is much more expensive to produce, but rention is longer and that makes your affiliates more money as well, so they will spend more effort on promoting you.

Frank The Tank · 07-26-2004, 10:39 AM

Thanks shane for the reply , and everyone else .. this will be my first forray into the paysite end , all the content will be custom and we believe we are onto something good .. and congrats on your success

SBJ · 07-26-2004, 10:42 AM

There is absolutely no money in Paysites! McD's pays better then the average paysite, trust me.. I just do it cause I like not making money

Hardcore J · 07-26-2004, 11:04 AM

polish_aristocrat · 08-05-2004, 11:03 AM

This question cannot be answered

The Heron · 08-05-2004, 11:07 AM

Negative money! You realize how many shitty paysites there are out there?

Paul · 08-05-2004, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basadmin
well of course its not going to be an average paysite ;) a very good unique one

I hope your idea is not what I think it is

because then we have the same idea

Wanna chat on ICQ ?

detoxed · 08-05-2004, 12:17 PM

oh my god some people will never learn

Doctor Dre · 08-05-2004, 04:33 PM

ROFL ... there are no stable figures for this question . Can be thousands or can be zero ...

Ar3s · 08-05-2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
This question cannot be answered

BVF · 08-05-2004, 04:38 PM

Ask this dude who runs www.foulfowl.com . He can't even make 20 a week yet he thinks he has some gay obsession with me and wants to be the next BVF.

for instance..here is an example of his homo fantasy about me. Look at this picture that is on his site right now.

GTS Mark · 08-05-2004, 04:57 PM

Well my first foray into paysite ownership was quite recently. I purchased an affiliate program with 9 deluxepass paysites. The sites came approximately with 125 recurring members. The revenues per month for these sites were roughly $1200-1500 a month (mostly from rebills).

Since I purchased the affiliate program, I have had my designer make 4 new deluxepass sites plus hosted galleries. Also I have added an additional server for free hosting for movies for my affiliates.

Now I am just starting to send my own traffic to these sites so hopefully over the next couple of months we should double to triple our members base and pick up some good affiliates.

So far so good, I have invested a reasonable amount of money and should hope to turn a profit on the amount invested by December/January.

Wish me luck

DH

Alice22 · 08-05-2004, 05:14 PM

Its all depends.

I know one guy who make only about 200$ a mounth from his paysite, bicause he doesnt know how to udvertase it.
And get a very little trafick.
And the site is not bad.

And i know guys with a shitty sites, that make much more, bicause of the trafick.

There is no spezifick numbers here...some paysites owner make 50 k and some less than 1k.
And the sites can be the same quality.

polish_aristocrat · 08-06-2004, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alice22
Its all depends.

I know one guy who make only about 200$ a mounth from his paysite, bicause he doesnt know how to udvertase it.

url?

arachnO · 08-06-2004, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alice22
Its all depends.

I know one guy who make only about 200$ a mounth from his paysite, bicause he doesnt know how to udvertase it.
And get a very little trafick.
And the site is not bad.

ICQ/URL?

gazool · 08-06-2004, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Well my first foray into paysite ownership was quite recently. I purchased an affiliate program with 9 deluxepass paysites. The sites came approximately with 125 recurring members. The revenues per month for these sites were roughly $1200-1500 a month (mostly from rebills).

Since I purchased the affiliate program, I have had my designer make 4 new deluxepass sites plus hosted galleries. Also I have added an additional server for free hosting for movies for my affiliates.

Now I am just starting to send my own traffic to these sites so hopefully over the next couple of months we should double to triple our members base and pick up some good affiliates.

So far so good, I have invested a reasonable amount of money and should hope to turn a profit on the amount invested by December/January.

Wish me luck

DH

URL?

Global Dialers · 08-06-2004, 05:05 AM

from figures i have calculated over the past few months a bog standard cookie cutter paysite with no exclusive content that has a nice tour and a couple of updates a month can earn the site owner around $50k per annum once webmaster payouts have been handled

that doesnt take into account any subsidiary funds made from things like mailouts or upsells within the site though

senseidru · 08-06-2004, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Global Dialers
from figures i have calculated over the past few months a bog standard cookie cutter paysite with no exclusive content that has a nice tour and a couple of updates a month can earn the site owner around $50k per annum once webmaster payouts have been handled

how did you calculate this?

Global Dialers · 08-06-2004, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by senseidru
how did you calculate this?

based on conversion to some of the sites we are testing using our own traffic sources

Netmax · 08-06-2004, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
I think the average paysite owner has about 200 to 300 members in his or her paysite.

Pays 50% to the affiliate from the total money he or she makes

~ 250 x ~30 = $7500
- 50% to affiliate = $3750
- 10% (ibill) costs = $3375
- hosting/content/updates/plugins

About ~ $2500 left for the owner

I forget the rebills

iBill fee is biger
Total Revenues for billing period/Service Fee
$0 - $9,999/18.59%
$10,000 - $24,999/17.59%
$25,000 - $49,999/16.59%
$50,000 and above/15.59%

+

10% hold for 6 months.

exclusive content+daily updates+interesting indeas+easy navigation=rebills=money!

robfantasy · 08-06-2004, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Well my first foray into paysite ownership was quite recently. I purchased an affiliate program with 9 deluxepass paysites. The sites came approximately with 125 recurring members. The revenues per month for these sites were roughly $1200-1500 a month (mostly from rebills).

Since I purchased the affiliate program, I have had my designer make 4 new deluxepass sites plus hosted galleries. Also I have added an additional server for free hosting for movies for my affiliates.

Now I am just starting to send my own traffic to these sites so hopefully over the next couple of months we should double to triple our members base and pick up some good affiliates.

So far so good, I have invested a reasonable amount of money and should hope to turn a profit on the amount invested by December/January.

Wish me luck

DH

GOOD LUCK DH!

07-26-2004, 07:47 AM	#1
Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	How much does the average paysite earn for its owners an average decent converting paysite - how much with good promotion would one expect to be earning normally - any rough ideas would be good __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

07-26-2004, 07:49 AM	#2
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,887	$1.200.325 but thats a real rough number But seriously it is hard to say, too many factors __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

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riosluts Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,250	an amateur one or a professional one? it all depends also depends on the niche, content, advertisers. Too many factors to consider this __________________

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Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	exclusive content on a NEW niche .. have a great idea in the pipeline which will be very unique and different __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

07-26-2004, 07:53 AM	#6
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	I think the average paysite owner has about 200 to 300 members in his or her paysite. Pays 50% to the affiliate from the total money he or she makes ~ 250 x ~30 = $7500 - 50% to affiliate = $3750 - 10% (ibill) costs = $3375 - hosting/content/updates/plugins About ~ $2500 left for the owner I forget the rebills Last edited by Reak; 07-26-2004 at 07:56 AM..

07-26-2004, 07:51 AM	#4
Aquarius Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement Posts: 4,754	It's all about the rebills, good exclusive content should do it, especially with a very tight niche. Hard to give an average.

07-26-2004, 10:15 AM	#8
Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	well of course its not going to be an average paysite ;) a very good unique one __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

07-26-2004, 10:17 AM	#9
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	anything from minus 5000 per month to millions per month. Depends on the volume of traffic you get on your own, the amount of active affiliates, the design, the rebills, the cost of content and plugins and so forth. That is a question I don't think has an answer. __________________ ..and I'm off.

07-26-2004, 10:34 AM	#11
ShaneRyale Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 961	For us it's all about good affiliates and great content. We've been around for a long time and have many thousands of members. We've always created our own quality exclusive content in our niche. We really focus on one major niche instead of spreading ourselves thin on a lot of different sites. We are now in a position after many years of being an established site that we are starting to grow and span out without losing the quality of our main niche content. Also, since we spend so much time and effort on that, our site converts VERY well and retains even better, so the affiliates we have are very loyal and have been making alot of money with us for several years. As far as a number goes, it's going to be difficult to make a figure, but you have to weigh which is better, you can buy content for almost nothing now days, but your retention will be lower, or you can make exclusive content which is much more expensive to produce, but rention is longer and that makes your affiliates more money as well, so they will spend more effort on promoting you. __________________ Shane - Affiliate Manager [email protected] ICQ: 170164556 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

07-26-2004, 10:39 AM	#12
Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	Thanks shane for the reply , and everyone else .. this will be my first forray into the paysite end , all the content will be custom and we believe we are onto something good .. and congrats on your success __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

07-26-2004, 10:42 AM	#13
SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,375	There is absolutely no money in Paysites! McD's pays better then the average paysite, trust me.. I just do it cause I like not making money __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

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08-05-2004, 11:07 AM	#16
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	Negative money! You realize how many shitty paysites there are out there?

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08-05-2004, 04:57 PM	#22
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Well my first foray into paysite ownership was quite recently. I purchased an affiliate program with 9 deluxepass paysites. The sites came approximately with 125 recurring members. The revenues per month for these sites were roughly $1200-1500 a month (mostly from rebills). Since I purchased the affiliate program, I have had my designer make 4 new deluxepass sites plus hosted galleries. Also I have added an additional server for free hosting for movies for my affiliates. Now I am just starting to send my own traffic to these sites so hopefully over the next couple of months we should double to triple our members base and pick up some good affiliates. So far so good, I have invested a reasonable amount of money and should hope to turn a profit on the amount invested by December/January. Wish me luck DH

08-05-2004, 05:14 PM	#23
Alice22 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 907	Its all depends. I know one guy who make only about 200$ a mounth from his paysite, bicause he doesnt know how to udvertase it. And get a very little trafick. And the site is not bad. And i know guys with a shitty sites, that make much more, bicause of the trafick. There is no spezifick numbers here...some paysites owner make 50 k and some less than 1k. And the sites can be the same quality.

08-06-2004, 05:05 AM	#27
Global Dialers Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 1,349	from figures i have calculated over the past few months a bog standard cookie cutter paysite with no exclusive content that has a nice tour and a couple of updates a month can earn the site owner around $50k per annum once webmaster payouts have been handled that doesnt take into account any subsidiary funds made from things like mailouts or upsells within the site though __________________ the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements.