PhotoGreggXXX

just hired a new girl full time to keep up...files need to be alphabetic by real name, stage name and the scenes/sites the talent is in. Major overkill...but part of the ever-changing biz

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AaronM

No shit sherlock. What rock have you been hiding under?

Did you get Joe his content or his money back?

Va2k

Hey aaron when you get a chance I needs to speak to you bro...
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AaronM

OK.

I have an appointment with a few Bloody Mary's in about 15 minutes. Contact me later today. Your homie, David can get you my current number.

Doctor Dre

I think you should talk to ama b4 you get bashed all over here ... you been away a little too long

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PhotoGreggXXX

Aaron....always the GFY idiot...keep up with the threads or keep your asshole shut...Joe and I are fine...but your'e still an asswipe

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okie dokie thanks mate

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Hijacking in progress

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AaronM

I'm the asswipe here?

Shall we discuss you shooting content that specifically copies my website concept and even goes so far as to use my girls name to cross promote?

Shall we discuss you using a custom set that was paid for by one of your clients to shoot content for yourself and other clients?

Both of those thing are some of the most ultra low handed snake in the grass shit that I have ever seen a content provider do.

I'm off to meet some friends. Go ahead and deny this shit and bash me some more. I have a nice size folder sitting on my hard drive to back up what I am saying.

I can't believe that people do business with a crooked bastard like you. I think I will dig up the threads where you bashed PIBCash one day then praised them a few days later and stated that you never has any problems with them.....

Yeah...Your word is solid.

Tam

THIS is who did the content for that site we seen?????? NO WAY!!! Tell me I am misreading this please?

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billywatson

Hey Gregg...thanks for the post, esp. the links. really helpful!!!

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Dax

Damn whoever reads this and is new.. would think that this industry is full of original ideas.. LOL

Is not like 80% of the industry copies what ox has done.

Mr.Fiction

There is still only one MILF site, so Nasty Dollars hasn't been ripped off yet!

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AaronM

You did not know?

AaronM

The difference being that they do not shoot content to appear as the exact same site design and they do not run through their videos claiming to be the sisters of the bangbus guys.

Tam

There is a HUGE difference in this one here babe...... this one was copied to the letter..... even using the last name of Aaron's girl..... this was BLATANT copying. Not sure really who is to blame, but someone is... and this was a very clear cut copy. I know this because MY designers built one of the tours and parts of it was used to make this site Aaron is talking about. Not good at all......

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Tam

Well I knew there was content being shot for this character, but I didn't realize it was the same person. I knew photogreg was/is shooting content for that person, but not on THIS site..

I think I need to get more of the rocks I have been under off me, dammit. lol

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Jace

that sucks...copying is for fools...it is one thing to get ideas and grab nice elements, but to flat out copy, that is just rude

dirtysouth

(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are different entities, the primary producer may certify to the secondary producer that the visual depictions in the matter satisfy the standards under paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(3) of this section. The secondary producer may then cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257(a)?(c) and of this part.

English?

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AaronM

Say it aint so!

Did they even go so far as to use the same font and logo style?

Let's see......


Screen cap from my content....



And a video from his....Oh, and what's this? Did I hear his bitch mention Toni Freeland?

Watch Gregg?s rip off video here.

So.....Yeah Gregg...Go ahead and tell me again who the ass wipe is.

Tam

Well the thing here is, I seen the videos, and in the videos I seen, the girl was introducing herself as Aaron's girl's Sister...... which is COMPLETELY a lie...... and in my head, not cool at all. Even if you CAN blame the program for the design side of things, which is likely, you have to see that the shooter was allowing this to be done and even promoting it by having his girl use the name of this other one's sister..... it's a twisted mess, but I know for a fact, all parties involved knew what they were doing.... and if I am NOT mistaken, both provider and program are partners on said site.

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Dax

So, is gregg shooting that for the owner of tonyfreeland? cuz if he is.. i dont see the problem...

maybe the guy asked him to make it the same..

but w/e

Dax

You are right....


Just like there is only one site about guys picking up girls in a van... the same sites that were open back in 2000 BEFORE bangbus opened right?

PhotoGreggXXX

Have no fucking clue what you are all talking about. We've had clients hire us to do content and we do some partner deals. I have no clue what lame sites Aaron does or what names he uses. How about get real, and name the site and the names!!!

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xxxdesign-net

Well, is Tony Freeland the model professional alias or is it a name owned by PIB that was created for their site..?

AaronM

The plain fact of the matter is that I developed, shot, and own full right to the Toni Freeland content. The guy running that site has stolen it from me and his attorney does not seem capable of returning emails or phone calls from my attorney.

Two peas in a pod as it may seem since the guy running the site also does not return messages and email from affiliates who he has "allegedly ripped off."

Tam

I think Aaron already did that.... and it isn't MY place to do this, it is his and he did it. I am not sure of ALL of what is going on here and as I stated, I am not sure who or what is to blame, but I AM 100% sure there is some REAL shady business going on here, but as I said, I am not sure who is to blame......... but MY point was, I didn't connect the names said to me with this site. I was hearing one name in one place and another in another and I didn't connect the two til just now and I was shocked about that...... as far as blame? I DID state I wasn't sure who's fault this was, but that there was fault SOMEWHERE......... right?

And why haven't ya been responding to my ICQ messages? It's obvious you are here...... rotfl

I guess I should add I DID know you were doing business with said program, but was unaware that THIS site was one of those projects.

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AaronM

You're a fucking liar and I can dig up past threads to prove that you are FULLY aware of the shit PIB has done.

Why don't you respond to my accusations directly? I suppose you also did not know that you shot some of the toryfreeland scenes in a jail set that was paid for and intended to be used exclusively for another client.

Please....Tell us some more lies Gragg.

PhotoGreggXXX

Haha...what a loser Aaron. The company in question didn't like you hijacking them on the content and girl, so they opened a new site with a new girl and hired a REAL producer.... I could care less what they called her and their problems with you....pay me to produce and call it anything you want.

MilfHunter.com came out before Milfseeker.com, but topbucks hired me to shoot the scenes...copycat..yep...but they kicked ass

BackSeatbangers.com came out after Bangbus.com...again kicked ass and still does....welcome to completition fool!!!

I'm not worried about your lame ass content or sites and neither are my customers

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AaronM

It is the models professional alias that was created for the site which was entirely my concept.

LadyMischief

How could you not know? You have/had websites on the same sponsor for ages!!

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Nathan

Do none of your use DIGITAL filing?!

At least for the referencing!?

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AaronM

Didn't like me hijacking them with the content and girl huh?

LOL...Nice.

Let's get the fats out in the open here....We are talking about PIBCash's record of ripping people off vs's my record.

I wonder who's word is solid and who's is not.

What's this????

A screen cap of the shaved Toni stats? Yeah....PIBCash looks to be trustworthy to me.

Joins vs joins reported....I wonder what that could possible mean?

TheWildcard

Yay, drama.

Webby

Sheesh Gregg! I'd rather hire another girl to keep me "sorted" and away from damned phone calls - not someone to work for some govt!

Now I know why there is good reason to dump USC 2257 and have nothing to do with this legal shit. The principle is fine in that there is an valid reason to protect minors, but as usual, it's gone miles away from sanity and any form of "reasonableness".

It's far nicer to be outta the US - the rest of the world is just fine and have no concern over USC 2257

LadyMischief

You're full of shit man, Toni Freeland ALWAYS was Aarons... appraently you weren't there for the launch of the site.. I was around then and knew the scoop then. You sir, are a moron.

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AaronM

Cause he's a fucking liar.

More evidence? Me thinks so.


Original Quotes from Gregg followed by the URL of the thread and page where the quotes ca be found.


First he says this: (Note the dates on the provided links)


You can find it here: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...h&pagenumber=5


THEN...6 days later he changes his tune:

You can find it here: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ight=pibcas h

AaronM

I love the GFY search feature.


You fuckers have made me late for my Bloody Mary appointment.

More to come later if Gregg decides to keep up this game.

MattO

Wow it's one thing to copy a basic concept for a site or video, but to refer to the site that's being copied as if there's a direct connection is nuts.

Wouldn't that be like opening a store called J-Mart and advertising that you're K-Mart's brother store?

Dpope

Drama!!

Now I know why people visit this board.

Aaron Moron... I thought you had a meeting to go to, big shot.

Lady... The word Moron is Reserved for Aaron.

Aaron... you need to go back and check your spelling before you criticize others.

Nice hijack

pornstar2pac

I like Photo Gregg's work

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Me too

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So, Gregg gets paid to shoot some content and he's a prick for doing what he's told to do. It's called competition, and it works.

Who exactly owns the name "Toni Freeland"?



I use PhotoGreggContent and it kicks ass. I think one site I convert my sponsor 1:115 using his content exclusively.

Pretty sure I have a bunch of his content in my paysites too.

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To clarify this for you.. you read "too far'..

(a) Any producer of any book, magazine, periodical, film,
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matter may cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement
attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping
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(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are.... dada dada dada ..

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Another interresting finding:

The word or reference to ch*ld P*rnography was mentioned or referred or insinuated to no less than 36 times in the summary in the first 6 pages.

Fucking assholes would play that card.

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FlyingIguana

does tory freeland shave like toni freeland?

cherrylula

Damn that sucks.

More proof of the lack of innovators and creative ideas in this industry. People would rather rip off what someone else has already done, instead of doing it themselves. Even worse when they pay someone else to do the copying.

The only solution is to stay one step ahead of the copycats and make your money before they get a chance to burn you.

Good luck.

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Good luck