Trouble making sales? Feeling scrubbed raw?

[SteveLightspeed]

Thats the strongest arguement for revshare... Lightspeedcash revenue (and affiliate payout) is UP because we are having record-level REBILLS. Remember revshare rebills can level out your income during slow sales periods.

Everyone should promote some good revshare programs to keep the checks coming in even when new sales are slow. It only makes sense not to put all your traffic eggs into the persignup basket.


Steve Lightspeed

[BradM]

Tasteful spam that makes sense.
Lightspeed DOES convert.

[AaronM]

Forgive my ignorance but do they not scrub rebills as well?

[teomaxxx]

I dont know a lot of people doing with lightspeedcash more then 30-35 per one member.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by teomaxxx
I dont know a lot of people doing with lightspeedcash more then 30-35 per one member.

touche

[angelsofporn]

if a programs sites have original content sites and update regularly update then i always go for the revshare option.

[Short Irish Guy]

Revshare has helped me in the summer but I'm still a big fan of PPS

[AaronM]

Originally posted by AaronM
Forgive my ignorance but do they not scrub rebills as well?

You gotta love this place.

I ask a serious question and I get ignored.

Nice.

[Dirty D]

Rebills are NOT scrubbed...
Rebills can fail due to credit cards expiring or getting rejected by the bank.

Steve is right - Rev Share Rocks for sites that retain!
Keep promoting and your checks just keep getting bigger!

[AaronM]

Originally posted by dustman
Rebills are NOT scrubbed...
Rebills can fail due to credit cards expiring or getting rejected by the bank.

Steve is right - Rev Share Rocks for sites that retain!
Keep promoting and your checks just keep getting bigger!

Coolio.

Thank you.

[Shoplifter]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Thats the strongest arguement for revshare... Lightspeedcash revenue (and affiliate payout) is UP because we are having record-level REBILLS. Remember revshare rebills can level out your income during slow sales periods.

You are so right. Our sales and rebill rates rates are higher than ever. A lot of newbs will go for the PPS programs cos the big numbers up front sound good but they are making a big mistake. Total revenue will always be higher with revshare on a good program.

[brand0n]

Originally posted by AaronM
You gotta love this place.

I ask a serious question and I get ignored.

Nice.

i know when ever i ask a question somewhere on gfy i want who ever started the thread to be alerted and come as fast as they fucking can to reply with a quick and witty response.

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally posted by teomaxxx
I dont know a lot of people doing with lightspeedcash more then 30-35 per one member.

Guess we know different people then.... You may have old information, I doubt you are referring to our retention over the last few months. We've made lots of enhancements to our systems specifically to improve retention. As I said, we are at all-time highs for rebills now.

But we're HAPPY to have people push our new persignup program too, get $30 to $35 per join, including trials and exits.


Different strokes for different folks.... I have nothing against persignup programs, I understand why a lot of people prefer them.

Steve Lightspeed

[garett]

I love lightspeed ... and I love rebills .. but to be honest I haven't had that many rebills with my LS sign-ups.

I hope Steve doesn't mind me posting my stats. LS ratios are pretty good for me. But retention is not. Keep in mind that I just build and submit galleries .. I don't run an insanely large TGP or anything.. so I haven't been able to send a massive amount of traffic.

Sign-ups: 38
Rebills: 8
Chargebacks: 2
Unique: 24,378
Ratio: 1:642
Income: $668.63

Here are per-site stats (name sign-ups rebills).

Dirty Aly 1 0
Jordan Capri 2 0 (1 chargeback)
Kinzie Kenner 2 0 (1 chargeback)
LS18 1 0
LS GIrls 4 0 (1:56 here)
LSW 4 0
LTM 5 1
LSU 1 0
Ronni 1 0 (surprisingly horrible ratio for this site 1:2k )
Sweet Devon 2 0
Tawnee 1 0
Tiffany Paris 5 1
Tori 1 0
Upskirt Sniper 2 0
Raimi 6 0

Steve .. what's the ratio so far for Ronni? I pushed that site hard when you launched it but I've had such a bad ratio I've stopped making galleries for her

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by AaronM
Forgive my ignorance but do they not scrub rebills as well?

If they would accept once, why would they deny it the next month ?

[AaronM]

Originally posted by brand0n
i know when ever i ask a question somewhere on gfy i want who ever started the thread to be alerted and come as fast as they fucking can to reply with a quick and witty response.

This is a serious thread. Witty responses are not needed.

Keep trolling.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
If they would accept once, why would they deny it the next month ?

Hell if I know. That's why I asked the question and plainly stated my ignorance on the issue.

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by garett
I love lightspeed ... and I love rebills .. but to be honest I haven't had that many rebills with my LS sign-ups.

I hope Steve doesn't mind me posting my stats. LS ratios are pretty good for me. But retention is not. Keep in mind that I just build and submit galleries .. I don't run an insanely large TGP or anything.. so I haven't been able to send a massive amount of traffic.

Sign-ups: 38
Rebills: 8
Chargebacks: 2
Unique: 24,378
Ratio: 1:642
Income: $668.63

Here are per-site stats (name sign-ups rebills).

Dirty Aly 1 0
Jordan Capri 2 0 (1 chargeback)
Kinzie Kenner 2 0 (1 chargeback)
LS18 1 0
LS GIrls 4 0 (1:56 here)
LSW 4 0
LTM 5 1
LSU 1 0
Ronni 1 0 (surprisingly horrible ratio for this site 1:2k )
Sweet Devon 2 0
Tawnee 1 0
Tiffany Paris 5 1
Tori 1 0
Upskirt Sniper 2 0
Raimi 6 0

Steve .. what's the ratio so far for Ronni? I pushed that site hard when you launched it but I've had such a bad ratio I've stopped making galleries for her

Whooping 17 $ per signup

[brand0n]

Originally posted by AaronM
This is a serious thread. Witty responses are not needed.

Keep trolling.

you have to admit that pic does kinda look like you.

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by AaronM
Hell if I know. That's why I asked the question and plainly stated my ignorance on the issue.

I wasnt answering like you were stupid or something ... Sorry if it sounded like that ;) Was just trying to answer your question .

[jact]

If you can find a program (Like Lightspeed) that retains well, Revshare kicks ass. However some programs (No names) have such shitty retention that it isn't even worth sending them a hit. Test, test and re-test before you dive too deeply into a revshare enviroment. (Unless it's Lightspeed, I can tell you for certain they rebill killer).

How's the new car, Steve?

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Whooping 17 $ per signup

and that is NOT counting the 2
chargebacks

[AaronM]

Originally posted by brand0n
you have to admit that pic does kinda look like you.

Keep smoking them drugs, son.

brand0n
i outsmoke tdf

[SteveLightspeed]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Whooping 17 $ per signup

We show people the real stats, no shaving, no padding. Perhaps you'd rather push the PIBcash $35 program and get paid for every 3rd join?

The downside to being honest is sometimes you have affiliates who are below average, and they tend to post a lot on gfy...


Steve Lightspeed

[Doctor Dre]

But 38 signups isnt enough to know how much it will make you ...

Hell im still getting a ccbill check every week from a site that I promoted 4 yeras ago ...


Averaging 100 $ x 52 x 4 = Like 20800k $ ... Thats like 595 signups send to a PPS sponsor ...

Thats out of probably 100 sales .

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We show people the real stats, no shaving, no padding. Perhaps you'd rather push the PIBcash $35 program and get paid for every 3rd join?

The downside to being honest is sometimes you have guys who are below average, and they tend to post a lot on gfy...


Steve Lightspeed

Im not dissing you or something ... he just posted stats . Ive never promoted your program so I cant tell ... You cannot tell how well you will do with something without trying it out first ...

Ive actually made more money with underground sites then the well known ever exposed ones .

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
But 38 signups isnt enough to know how much it will make you ...

Hell im still getting a ccbill check every week from a site that I promoted 4 yeras ago ...


Averaging 100 $ x 52 x 4 = Like 20800k $ ... Thats like 595 signups send to a PPS sponsor ...

Thats out of probably 100 sales .

Oh and this is just counting the recurring members like 4 years later ...

That is not including the signups / recurring I got paid for at first

[SteveLightspeed]

We also have members that have been rebilling since 1999. Nice score for those affiliates, those joins are over $1000 each now

[Jamie]

Revshare is the way to go imo, I'm still getting paid on a program I pushed 2 years ago. Rebills can really add up, how do you think the PPS sponsors pay you?

[TDF]

Originally posted by AaronM
Keep smoking them drugs, son.

brand0n
i outsmoke tdf

i had nothing to do with that...hes riding my name for sucess

[brand0n]

Originally posted by toodamnfli
i had nothing to do with that...hes riding my name for sucess

see you guys think so gfy.
i was talking about tony danza fool

[fatal attraction]

Revshare Rocks!!!!

[Paul90]

We show people the real stats, no shaving, no padding. Perhaps you'd rather push the PIBcash $35 program and get paid for every 3rd join?

I love that quote!

If webmasters only knew the real value of a join...everyone would be doing revshare......you don't think these companies break even at $35 do you?

[SteveLightspeed]

It seems like around the 20th - 25th of every month gets slow. Is it payday cycles maybe?

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by goreboy
I love that quote!

If webmasters only knew the real value of a join...everyone would be doing revshare......you don't think these companies break even at $35 do you?

And that statement makes no sense either if you think about it properly. I'll let you try to work out why by yourself as it'll give you something to do

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Thats the strongest arguement for revshare... Lightspeedcash revenue (and affiliate payout) is UP because we are having record-level REBILLS. Remember revshare rebills can level out your income during slow sales periods.

Everyone should promote some good revshare programs to keep the checks coming in even when new sales are slow. It only makes sense not to put all your traffic eggs into the persignup basket.


Steve Lightspeed

great advice. its good to have a mix, starts a bit slow, but once you find good retaining sites to promote revenue from revshare goes up exponentially

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We show people the real stats, no shaving, no padding. Perhaps you'd rather push the PIBcash $35 program and get paid for every 3rd join?

The downside to being honest is sometimes you have affiliates who are below average, and they tend to post a lot on gfy...


Steve Lightspeed

Guess I'm one of those below average affiliates. My average post count on GFy is below 5 per day :-)

I like the light speed sites, but they don't convert in any of my TGPs. I convert at 1:2374 for LS. Other programs just work better for me. That's all TGP traffic with a good mix of SE traffic. I've had 1 rebill. Don't use exits and must admit that I'm not pushing Lightspeed hard.

[pussyluver]

I prefer revshare, cause I think that there might be less of a urge and need to shave.

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by Short Irish Guy
Revshare has helped me in the summer but I'm still a big fan of PPS

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We show people the real stats, no shaving, no padding. Perhaps you'd rather push the PIBcash $35 program and get paid for every 3rd join?

The downside to being honest is sometimes you have affiliates who are below average, and they tend to post a lot on gfy...


Steve Lightspeed

BTW, was that a backhanded slap at people that post on gfy?

Don't think you'll find many on gfy doing much with PIB

[Pornkings]

Originally posted by goreboy
I love that quote!

If webmasters only knew the real value of a join...everyone would be doing revshare......you don't think these companies break even at $35 do you?

Sometimes the sponsor loses money on the trials paying out webmasters. its a numbers game for Pay-per trials.

Pay-per sale is simple you don't credit the webmaster till you get the full membership so you don't lose money you break even or make a few bucks on x-sales and reacurring etc.

Pay per click well you really need to know what your doing so you don't lose your ass.

No matter what we have every type of PPS and the tools to make them convert



the Safe bet is to promote the programs who sponsor the industry

[retrograde]

I really feel revshare is the only way to go. I won't even promote a site unless it offers a revshare program.

StudMoney is an awesome 50/50 revshare program for those of you promoting gay sites.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Pornkings
Sometimes the sponsor loses money on the trials paying out webmasters. its a numbers game for Pay-per trials.

Pay-per sale is simple you don't credit the webmaster till you get the full membership so you don't lose money you break even or make a few bucks on x-sales and reacurring etc.

Pay per click well you really need to know what your doing so you don't lose your ass.

No matter what we have every type of PPS and the tools to make them convert



the Safe bet is to promote the programs who sponsor the industry

most sites don't really do shit to try and retain members anyways. same crap as others then complain and say they have to shave etc to pay 35 per.

[Reak]

Originally posted by BradM
Tasteful spam that makes sense.
Lightspeed DOES convert.

What he said

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by teomaxxx
I dont know a lot of people doing with lightspeedcash more then 30-35 per one member.

this year i made $37 per sigup with revshare....

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by retrograde
I really feel revshare is the only way to go. I won't even promote a site unless it offers a revshare program.

StudMoney is an awesome 50/50 revshare program for those of you promoting gay sites.

Good spam opportunity ESP since Steve kinda backed away. It was his opportunity to address real questions and help his program. Kinda wonder why he went away so quick? More posts would have brought along winning affiliates I would hope. Makes me go ahmmmmmmm!

Maybe Lightspeed should have a rep assigned to GFY??? Got me, Steve has a few haters on here, but who doesn't! LS is a player, why not play at GFY!

[Rick Latona]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Thats the strongest arguement for revshare... Lightspeedcash revenue (and affiliate payout) is UP because we are having record-level REBILLS. Remember revshare rebills can level out your income during slow sales periods.

Everyone should promote some good revshare programs to keep the checks coming in even when new sales are slow. It only makes sense not to put all your traffic eggs into the persignup basket.


Steve Lightspeed

It also only makes sense if you send that revenue share traffic to programs like yours with enough high-quality exclusive content to earn that long retention rate.

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by Rick Latona
It also only makes sense if you send that revenue share traffic to programs like yours with enough high-quality exclusive content to earn that long retention rate.

Off topic a bit - sorry. Rick, you get credit for sticking it out through all the crap you had to go through over recent events. You had the balls to face it all!