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Old 07-24-2004, 11:00 AM   #151
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:03 AM   #152
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My point was I think we've had enough 10 page pissing matches for a while. That's all. Time to go outside and enjoy this nice Saturday we're having here. Cheers.
I don't mind this thread being continuously bumped. Myself and several others were given a lot of shit in that other thread over standing up for this. It looks like enough people thought the same as we did that CJ finally had to give it a lot of thought themselves.

Fortunately they came to the right conclusion.

WHEN CJ posts a video like this in the future we can look forward to them NOT insinuating that it is FUNNY.

That was our main problem.
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:05 AM   #153
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WHEN CJ posts a video like this in the future we can look forward to them NOT insinuating that it is FUNNY.

That was our main problem.
I think you forget WHAT CJ is, they do this, they have ALWAYS done this. Its just how they are and that needs to be kept in mind when on the site. If you are sensitive to things sooner or later you will get pissed off viewing stuff on that site.
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:08 AM   #154
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WHEN CJ posts a video like this in the future we can look forward to them NOT insinuating that it is FUNNY.

That was our main problem.
Really, I think you should just never visit CJ or sites like it ever again and leave it at that.
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There is a ton of thinking that is backasswards in this world.

Take for example the fact that several people here seemed angrier at Rick, Marc and CJ for posting the video than they were at the bastards who MADE the video.

It still astounds me.
Oh come on, you really think if the guys who made the video were posting on GFY that we wouldn't be way more pissed at them than at CJ? The only reason someone like you could make that kind of broad assumption is because we can talk to CJ, not the fuckers who burned the cat.
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WHEN CJ posts a video like this in the future we can look forward to them NOT insinuating that it is FUNNY.

That was our main problem.
and on another note - they do have ratings next to the title. I was not here the day it was posted, but it DOES have "Extreme critter cruelty" as the rating, so wtf was hard to understand about that? What about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:11 AM   #157
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I think you forget WHAT CJ is, they do this, they have ALWAYS done this. Its just how they are and that needs to be kept in mind when on the site. If you are sensitive to things sooner or later you will get pissed off viewing stuff on that site.
Yes, CJ has always posted controversial content. I am assuming you're not one of the many that are missing the point.

That point being: go ahead and post that video clip. I don't like it. I don't think ANYONE liked it. But don't insinuate that it is FUNNY. Don't make light of it. Don't glorify it so that others are encouraged to do the same thing.

And if you DO decide to make it funny, expect people to shout out against you about it. Expect them to call for your advertisers to boycott you.

You know that saying "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time?" That same theme applies here. If you can't afford to face the consequences of your actions, don't do it in the first place.

I think CJ came to realize that there are better ways to keep shocking people.
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Oh come on, you really think if the guys who made the video were posting on GFY that we wouldn't be way more pissed at them than at CJ? The only reason someone like you could make that kind of broad assumption is because we can talk to CJ, not the fuckers who burned the cat.
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and on another note - they do have ratings next to the title. I was not here the day it was posted, but it DOES have "Extreme critter cruelty" as the rating, so wtf was hard to understand about that? What about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?
I pointed that out several times on the pissing threads. No one commented, as far as I saw. I guess their minds were made up.
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I pointed that out several times on the pissing threads. No one commented, as far as I saw. I guess their minds were made up.
On further thought, it sure seems like CJ decided we had a point, now doesn't it?
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how about cute little bunnies?

Some guys I used to Motorcycle ride with would shoot wild Jack Rabbits with Magnum 44's ...and the rabbits would basically disintegrate. They used to laugh, hoot and holler.

I never got it...but they loved it.

I've always enjoyed just being out there in the middle of the desert (the nature part)......I never got into killing animals for fun....call me a liberal tree hugger ....but I JUST DONT GET IT.
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:18 AM   #162
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It would only be hypocritical bullshit if those same cops were the ones shouting out against animal abuse.

I think those cops should be fired. They would be, if I was their boss.
I think you should maybe do some research on Nutria.

When I lived in Texas 30 + years ago they were a huge problem then. On the lake I lived on we had a shit pot of them and couldn't control them other than killing them. They eat every fucking thing and I mean every thing.

Why back when ( don't know when ) some person that worked for the state of LA. brought some in 2 eat the cat-tail and such. The only problem they Mult. faster than rabbits.
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Old 07-24-2004, 11:20 AM   #163
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On further thought, it sure seems like CJ decided we had a point, now doesn't it?
ok - but can you tell me what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny? You keep saying over and over you thought it was going to be a funny video - so what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?

If there is one thing you can't deny is that CJ has ALWAYS been very truthful about the ratings, I have never, ever seen them fuck around with that. If its death - they say it, if its critter abuse, they say it - as they did here. so again, what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?
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how about cute little bunnies?

Some guys I used to Motorcycle ride with would shoot wild Jack Rabbits with Magnum 44's ...and the rabbits would basically disintegrate. They used to laugh, hoot and holler.

I never got it...but they loved it.

I've always enjoyed just being out there in the middle of the desert (the nature part)......I never got into killing animals for fun....call me a liberal tree hugger ....but I JUST DONT GET IT.
I don't either. It makes no sense to me. My son knows that his daddy doesn't think it's okay to shoot animals for fun. I'm proud of that fact, because he's only 4 years old and has already had this concept enforced in his head enough to repeat it to others.

And when it comes to hunting I've already explained to him that the people who hunt animals currently have every right to do so. But that I don't do it myself. And that I hope he doesn't want to hunt either.

This all came up just recently when he got to shoot his uncles BB gun and decided he wanted one too. We had a talk about the proper way to use guns. His daddy (yes, I'm still talking about me) owns nothing more powerful than a BB gun. There is no reason to own a high powered hunting rifle.
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I think you should maybe do some research on Nutria.

When I lived in Texas 30 + years ago they were a huge problem they. On the lake I lived on we had a shit pot of them and couldn't control them other than killing them. They eat every fucking thing and I mean every thing.

Why back when ( don't know when ) some person that worked for the state of LA. brought some in 2 eat the cat-tail and such. The only problem they Mult. faster than rabbits.
The state of Louisiana actually has a bounty on Nutrea. They'll pay so many dollars per tail you bring in if you want to go out and plug'em.


But anyhow....You people bitch like it teaches children something wrong to see a cat getting torched. Hello? Ever watch television? Southpark for example. Horrible things and kids watch that.
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ok - but can you tell me what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny? You keep saying over and over you thought it was going to be a funny video - so what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?

If there is one thing you can't deny is that CJ has ALWAYS been very truthful about the ratings, I have never, ever seen them fuck around with that. If its death - they say it, if its critter abuse, they say it - as they did here. so again, what about the "Extreme critter cruelty" made you think it was funny?

Those ratings are used, yes. But take a look at the title. "Hottest Pussy You'll Ever See."

Rick himself didn't dispute that the title was meant to be funny. I posted an ICQ conversation that proved that, and it was discussed on the D-Money show.

End of discussion.
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Those ratings are used, yes. But take a look at the title. "Hottest Pussy You'll Ever See."

Rick himself didn't dispute that the title was meant to be funny. I posted an ICQ conversation that proved that, and it was discussed on the D-Money show.

End of discussion.
oh fucking please - you had me till this point.

If you spend ANY time on CJ you know that the TITLES are pure fucking around. And you also know the RATINGS are for real, they DO NOT fuck around on the RATING.

So if you saw the rating "Extreme critter cruelty" and still thought it was funny than you sir, are a true fucking idiot. You know how CJ works, don't be a fucktard.

End of discussion.
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Rick I don't think you should have backed down. These are the same assholes who couldn't wait for you to post the most recent beheading video.

I guess you gotta pick your battles...
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Well played Rick - when I went out for Kung Pao chicken last night and the same thing happened. No biggie.

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Consumption Junction hereby announces our first change in policy. Additionally, a few apologies.

We at Consumption Junction have never changed our policies or bent to the will of a adversary. That said, the good people at GoFuckYourself.com and our valued surfers and fans are not adversaries but rather our life blood. We desire to earn your respect and will do what it takes for this to happen.

On the 15th of July. 2004 we posted a video on Consumption Junction (CJ) that displayed men of presumably eastern European origin taking a cat, putting it in a cage then lighting it on fire. The title we gave this video was ?This May Be the Hottest Pussy You?ll Ever See?. CJ has always been a site about sex, humor and violence. We make no judgments and pass no judgments. The website?s mission is simply to archive and distribute the craziest content shared on the web. This part of our business model will not change and we make no apologies for it.

However, recent events and the demands of thousands of concerned individuals have succeeded in making us realize that insulting and/or mocking titles on content sure to touch of sensitivities is neither correct nor necessary. A few years ago this letter wouldn?t have been written but now in 2004 our fan base has grown too large for us to not recognize some responsibility.

We therefore apologize to our fans, clients and business associates. While we make it our business to be insulting, we don?t have to be assholes about it. We can?t promise that we won?t continue to stir emotions and generally raise hell when we have the chance, but we can promise we will now try to be more sensitive with content we know in advance will anger part of our fan base.

For the record, no one at our company condones the abuse of animals. We post videos such as the one referred to above for the same reason we post anything else; the video isn?t boring. So count on us continuing to post content that is legal and not boring, bearing in mind the sensitivities of others.

Lastly, we?d like to apologize one more time to the great people at National Net who have stuck with us through everything over the years. Tony Morgan is a wonderful an that has done much for our business and he was wronged by us during the chaos that followed our release of the video.

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Rick I don't think you should have backed down. These are the same assholes who couldn't wait for you to post the most recent beheading video.

I guess you gotta pick your battles...
Isn't it ironic that this brainless banter was posted by someone calling themselves "BeHeadR"?

Do you not see any difference between a person being beheaded for legitimate political reasons and a cat being set afire for entertainment?
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I think it's amusing that the day AFTER I sent your real mailing address and home telephone number to Peta that you sent this "news release out".
Sure that a few thousand calls to your house didn't have everything to do with this?
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holy shit I was durnk as fuck this morning, i dson't even remember writing that shit

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I only bothered with page 1. But, its plain to see, there are some grade A fucking losers in this world, and most of them seem to post here.
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holy shit I was durnk as fuck this morning, i dson't even remember writing that shit

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Well, if you are going to be a classless fuck, you might as well be drunk.

Good excuse.

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What is all the crying about. They eat cats in some countries. The only difference is that you see it here. You have no idea how they cook them there.
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Do you not see any difference between a person being beheaded for legitimate political reasons and a cat being set afire for entertainment?
Wait a second....legitimate political reasons? Since when is beheading a soldier with a pocketknife legit????
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Well, if you are going to be a classless fuck, you might as well be drunk.

Good excuse.

rofl

i just need to learn to back away from the computer when the alcohol starts flowing
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I think it's amusing that the day AFTER I sent your real mailing address and home telephone number to Peta that you sent this "news release out".
Sure that a few thousand calls to your house didn't have everything to do with this?

I have come to think everything you say is a lie. But if I allow myself to believe that is true for just one second it brings a smile to my face.
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Rick... you're a good guy but if i could give my opinion on your post;

1. Your statement completely contradicted itself and was pure hipocrasy.

2. It would seem to me that NatNet gave you shit about it, causing this statement.
You are completely wrong in every respect. And the answer to your question in your signature is, I was in the Internet Hosting business.
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Huuh ??

They dont pulled that vid.
The video is still online and the thread title is still "This May Be The Hottest Pussy You'll Ever See".
We have no intention of spending the time and/or money to go back and change 5 years worth of titles. That said, we'll be careful from this point forward.
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The reason why the cat video drew such an uproar in comparison to the beheading and other videos is that little animals are like children. They are completely defenseless, innocent, dependent on us for their survival, loving, playful, cuddly, cute, gentle, precious, and more.

For what its worth, you have my full respect again and I deeply applaud you for handling this issue so responsibly.
You are the main reason this got out of hand in the first place. You went on a public campaign against us.

I'm a pretty loyal guy and I fight hard for both my battles and those battles that belong to those close to me. I won't forget those who were so against me. For you it is about a cat, for me it is about much more.

We've sent out mail campains to webmasters before with astronaut remains asking them if they knew a good deal if it fell from the sky, etc... That didn't get out of hand! The reason this go SO out of hand is because a few well known and respected individuals through fuel on the fire for 48 hours straight.

You seem like a genuinely good guy that is just trying to make an honest buck. So I'll get over it because you'd be too hard to stay mad at. Right now, I'm still upset.

Some of you reading this actually think that "greater forces" are at work. Hogwash! I wrote that letter because I work too fucking hard to build relationships in this business and I don't need people angry about a fucking cat.

So I have your respect back. Great.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:07 PM   #187
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I have come to think everything you say is a lie. But if I allow myself to believe that is true for just one second it brings a smile to my face.
And you can still go choke on a cock. I couldn't give a shit how many nice things you said in this thread. You campaigned for people to stop doing business with me. What the fuck was that? That's a God damned act of war. You can't just apologize for it. Don't do shit like that!

Fuck you man! I get so fucking angry just seeing your name on this fucking board.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:07 PM   #188
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I'm glad I don't have the website approval board on my ass. Then again it's traffic might convert
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:10 PM   #189
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I guess you gotta pick your battles...
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:27 PM   #190
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Makes me wonder how many people pulled their ads. For some reason, I find it hard to believe that this backtracking is only because people were upset.

Money is the only thing that seems to matter in this biz.

For the record, we lost a grand total of ZERO advertisers. Apparently there are still a few people in this business that want to concentrate on DOING BUSINESS.

I'm so sick of this entire thing. I just want to get back to doing what I do.

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Old 07-24-2004, 03:29 PM   #191
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We post videos such as the one referred to above for the same reason we post anything else; the video isn?t boring. So count on us continuing to post content that is legal and not boring, bearing in mind the sensitivities of others.
Well I really don;t know if you would call that video legal. I guarantee if you video tape that here in the US you will end up in Court or server jail time. Just becuase it was done in another country don't make it ok here. Beastality and weed is legal in some overseas areas but I bet you won't be out smoking that shit in public or hosting up any beast sex either ;-)

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Old 07-24-2004, 03:31 PM   #192
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I think it's amusing that the day AFTER I sent your real mailing address and home telephone number to Peta that you sent this "news release out".
Sure that a few thousand calls to your house didn't have everything to do with this?
If that was true, we'd change the name we have up now wouldn't we? In fact, we aren't. We are just saying we will try to be more sensitive in the future.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:36 PM   #193
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:40 PM   #194
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It seems like this has gotten way out of hand (and yes I recognize I have been part of that)

how about we all just say fuck it from here on out and put this shit behind us....everyone said shit that was uncalled for, and everyone added fuel to a fire that should have been burned, but it should not have been burned this long or well...oh shit, i didn't even think about that sentence......oh the irony

we all know who are friends are and we all know who our enemies are....after this dust has settled some people came out looking bad, some worse and some better....I know I can be a real idiot sometimes, can't everyone?

so, how about we all just fuck it all and get on with our lives and what we are here to do, make fucking money...we all can agree on that right? the past is the past, and there ain't shit we can do about it....

next time you all see me at a convention or locally in an atlanta pub, kick me in the balls and let me buy you a beer....cause I deserve it and so do you all

anyway, i said my hippie shit for the moment...why do I feel like I need to go slap a dead sticker on my beetle?
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:42 PM   #195
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handled this great
i agree

CJ has always been a shocking website, if you're easily offended you really shouldn't be there.
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Well said ...... Nice to see people take responsibility for the content they put up
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If that was true, we'd change the name we have up now wouldn't we? In fact, we aren't. We are just saying we will try to be more sensitive in the future.
Tell you what then, you go out in your back yard and do the same shit and video tape it and mail it to me. I bet you will be in court or jail in no time at all.

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It seems like this has gotten way out of hand (and yes I recognize I have been part of that)

how about we all just say fuck it from here on out and put this shit behind us....everyone said shit that was uncalled for, and everyone added fuel to a fire that should have been burned, but it should not have been burned this long or well...oh shit, i didn't even think about that sentence......oh the irony

we all know who are friends are and we all know who our enemies are....after this dust has settled some people came out looking bad, some worse and some better....I know I can be a real idiot sometimes, can't everyone?

so, how about we all just fuck it all and get on with our lives and what we are here to do, make fucking money...we all can agree on that right? the past is the past, and there ain't shit we can do about it....

next time you all see me at a convention or locally in an atlanta pub, kick me in the balls and let me buy you a beer....cause I deserve it and so do you all

anyway, i said my hippie shit for the moment...why do I feel like I need to go slap a dead sticker on my beetle?
You are right. I'll do my best to put Kevin (KRL) and Donovan's comments behind me as well.
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Old 07-24-2004, 04:11 PM   #199
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Tell you what then, you go out in your back yard and do the same shit and video tape it and mail it to me. I bet you will be in court or jail in no time at all.

Shane
Why would I do that? I don't like cruelty towards animals any more than I like eating a pile of dog shit but I'll post a video of someone eating a pile of dog shit as well. Jesus Christ, man. CJ is a fucked up site. It's just a collection of everything wacked!
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Old 07-24-2004, 04:21 PM   #200
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On the 15th of July. 2004 we posted a video on Consumption Junction (CJ) that displayed men of presumably eastern European origin taking a cat, putting it in a cage then lighting it on fire
when you are not sure, where this video is from, dont tell something like "probably from eastern Europe" shit
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