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jawanda · 07-24-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by mardigras
My opinion hasn't changed from what I said the last time folks were riding Rick's ass. It's his site, he can put whatever he wants to on it and change it anytime he wishes. If you don't like it, go build the "politically correct CJ site"

Why don't you read this thread? The only people riding his ass are ones saying that he should keep CJ the way it is. You got it backwards.

We're now riding the ass of the dipshit JaceXXX who posted the cat burning gif IN this thread.

Strife · 07-24-2004, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom

I don't get it why people compared this video to the beheading video .. the beheading video was a politcally motivated murder by terrorists with the background of a war ..

videos like the cat video with a catchy title that plays down the cruelty might motivate many kids all over the world to fry the neighbour's pet just to get on cj and be proud of it ..

very nice move, rick ! .. I hope that this will give you a lot of the webmaster's confidence back that you might have lost during the last week ..

What he said

Zebra · 07-24-2004, 08:53 AM

Wasn't JaceXXX the idiot who pissed in an ATM in Atlanta and ended up in jail for it?
Then he posted criticizing people who go wild and cause problems at shows?

Talk about some fucking hypocrisy!

Rick, I don't think you have to worry about the words of someone who has trafficking, mail theft, and credit card fraud on his record.

mardigras · 07-24-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by jawanda
Why don't you read this thread? The only people riding his ass are ones saying that he should keep CJ the way it is. You got it backwards.

We're now riding the ass of the dipshit JaceXXX who posted the cat burning gif IN this thread.

I did read this thread and the ones from past incidents... and I still say, Rick can change his page any way he wishes and if that upsets someone enough they are free to design a site that meets their standards.

As far as people posting gifs to grab attention, not a part of the issue.

Zebra · 07-24-2004, 09:01 AM

Seens lensman doesn't agree with the .gif either.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=330605&s=
If it keeps being posted it might become an issue.

tony286 · 07-24-2004, 09:03 AM

Jace is a really cool guy and a very stand up one at that. He has been a very good friend to CJ and has had great respect for what they do and how they dont bend to opinion but the times are changing. Rick and I may see alot of things differently. He is a very smart business man and he sees the writing on the wall. The wild west is coming to a end.

keyboard warrior · 07-24-2004, 09:06 AM

Little Late ya think ?

Well it's about time.

alexg · 07-24-2004, 09:08 AM

fuelcell · 07-24-2004, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by devilspost
Justs go to show how fucking stupid the sheep are. Drop a 100 tons of napalm on humanbeings and say it is fighting for freedom, everybody cheers!

Yep. (but not everybody)

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Alright, so what are you saying? You're not going to post videos like that anymore, or you're not going to give them names that mock what is happening?

It reads pretty clear to me. He is apologizing for the wording of the title, not for posting the video itself.

I can respect that. The title was on the unfortunate side.

Brad Mitchell · 07-24-2004, 09:23 AM

Donny · 07-24-2004, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
It reads pretty clear to me. He is apologizing for the wording of the title, not for posting the video itself.

I can respect that. The title was on the unfortunate side.

That's how I read it too.

Fletch XXX · 07-24-2004, 09:48 AM

man i hate when people give in.

i hate these threads, i really do.

KRL · 07-24-2004, 09:48 AM

Rick, Marc, and CJ Team

Just want to deeply deeply and totally thank you guys for this decision revision and being sensitive and understanding in resolving this issue in such a prompt and professional manner.

The reason why the cat video drew such an uproar in comparison to the beheading and other videos is that little animals are like children. They are completely defenseless, innocent, dependent on us for their survival, loving, playful, cuddly, cute, gentle, precious, and more.

Losing a pet or seeing a pet hurt is as traumatic an event emotionally and psychologically to the majority of people as losing or seeing a child being hurt. Its that simple. It hits us at the core of our souls, and hits us so hard their pain and suffering is felt as our own pain. Most people value their pets to their hearts on the same level as their children. They are a part of the family. Most people are capable of killing someone who would hurt a child or a small animal I truly believe. And you could see that level of emotion clearly in many of the posts.

If there is anything the overwhelming majority of the Web would agree on I think it would be there is one line out there, and it stops with the exploitation of children and cruelty to animals. Doesn't mean that many people cross that line despite the majority of people thinking anything past it is wrong, as we see with the unstoppable exploitation of kids by CP producers. But clearly if everyone was queried, I'm sure those two would be at the top of the list.

I stated in one of my threads, the Net is one of the greatest communications tools mankind has ever created. Its very nature and structure is sheer brilliance - the Net is all of us. We get to play God. We get to be its creators. It is what we are. The good the bad and the ugly all intertwined into a hodgepodge of all our knowledge, all our thoughts, all our humor, all our fantasies, all our wharped and twisted perversions.

In light of this freedom and such stretching power to create things that the entire planet can see and experience comes the inherent responsibility to govern ourselves and with minimal intervention of governments and powerful media corporations who traditionally are the regulators of all that is seen by the public.

This responsibility though virtually completely unrestricted and unhindered because of the very nature of the Net's structure, is policed at the end of the day best by the voices of ourselves.

And those voices when spoken in unity have immense and dramatic power, as we saw this past week with the cat video. Mere voices unified can exert the power of weapons, sometimes with the intensity of an all out battlefield.

The people, your customers, your advertisers, your friends, your business associates, even your die hard CJ fans, spoke to you, and spoke with a ferocious roar. You and your team undoubtley had many sleepless and frustrating days dealing with this, and I'm sure this had to be one of the most difficult business decisions since CJ was founded. Especially since your site is solidly based on the mantra that no holes are barred, we show it all.

You listened to everyone's voices and responded accordingly and for that I commend you and say you did the right thing with this situation and deserve to have full restoration of all your business and fan relationships that were affected by this.

For what its worth, you have my full respect again and I deeply applaud you for handling this issue so responsibly.

Donny · 07-24-2004, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
man i hate when people give in.

i hate these threads, i really do.

I'm sure you do. Someday you'll grow up and see that, in order to do good business, sometimes you must re-evaluate your personal opinions.

This means you must sometimes allow for the possibility that you're WRONG about something.

Or sometimes you must choose to hold your tongue until you've tried to work things out with someone before you publicly cry on message boards.

That's part of being a successful business person. You seem like a bright person. You really will learn someday. I guarantee it.

Fletch XXX · 07-24-2004, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I'm sure you do. Someday you'll grow up and see that, in order to do good business, sometimes you must re-evaluate your personal opinions.

This means you must sometimes allow for the possibility that you're WRONG about something.

Or sometimes you must choose to hold your tongue until you've tried to work things out with someone before you publicly cry on message boards.

That's part of being a successful business person. You seem like a bright person. You really will learn someday. I guarantee it.

Donny you really need to stop even quoting me.

one day you will realize i have nothing to say to you,. please puit me on ignore, go spend some time with your fucking kid instead of trying to talkt o me.

you fucked me over in a deal, you have no place tal;king about anything to do about growing up.

seriously, put me on ignorwe and stop quoting and/or replying to me.

Spunky · 07-24-2004, 10:00 AM

You did the right thing.

czarina · 07-24-2004, 10:01 AM

For what is worth, I support you, Rick. Nice letter.

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
you fucked me over in a deal, you have no place tal;king about anything to do about growing up.

I paid your normal price, PLUS I gave you 25% of sales DIRECTLY from CCBill. And I fucked you over?

Odd. I thought I was being a nice guy and doing what no one else was willing to do.

Has your good buddy Quiet ever offered such a thing?

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
man i hate when people give in.

i hate these threads, i really do.

I don't necessarily view the apology as backpeddling, or it being a bad thing really. Looks to me like he's apologizing for the wording of the vid's description only, not for posting the video itself.

When pressed, those who were bitching the loudest over it admitted that what bothered them the most was the way the description read..."Hottest pussy you'll ever see" or whatever.

Although I support free speech and freedom of online expression, I also recognize that some things we say can offend a lot of people sometimes. I get the feeling that CJ will continue to bring contraversial shit to the net regardless of this incident, but will use a bit more thought when writing link titles like this one. I don't blame them.... because with a few different words in that link most of this could have been avoided.

Again, I support the right to post and write freely, with the exception of illegal content of course. I think this apology was targeted properly and in good taste.

The Truth Hurts · 07-24-2004, 10:11 AM

this thread makes me wanna go kick my cat.

but i won't, cause she's my baby.

at least you can still see humans getting killed and other humiliating and degrading things happening to people at CJ.

n3in · 07-24-2004, 10:11 AM

Wow. I didn't see this coming. Whatever, you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

beergood · 07-24-2004, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
more than half the whiners complaining are meat eaters - fucking hypocrite idiots

if people surf that site they should know what to expect

Good point.

I'm not too prone to being serious when spending time on GFY but this is a bit ridiculous. 100 times more complaints over a stupid fucking cat than of a man being decapitated. I see them dead on side of the road on a regular basis and have smashed a few under my tires on accident as well. You people have some seriously fucked up priorities.

beergood · 07-24-2004, 10:18 AM

I don't hear you fucksticks compalining about TV shows that depict trophy hunting. Shooting mammals with fucking Bow & Arrow or guns. I bet you love going eat fucking chicken, beef or pork. Animals that are kept no better than slaves back in the 17th century and then brutally slaughtered. Fucking get over it. I definitely understand the concept behind the apology but its still bullshit that you had to go to such lengths over a cat.

ItBurnsWhenIpee · 07-24-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by beergood
Good point.

I'm not too prone to being serious when spending time on GFY but this is a bit ridiculous. 100 times more complaints over a stupid fucking cat than of a man being decapitated. I see them dead on side of the road on a regular basis and have smashed a few under my tires on accident as well. You people have some seriously fucked up priorities.

I think the difference is that the beheading video was a war crime that was not made for entertainment purposes. The cat being burned was done for entertainment purposes, and getting it posted on a site like CJ would only encourage more stupid kids to burn cats and try to get them posted on big sites.

I don't think terrorists are surfing CJ and getting encouraged...

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
I think the difference is that the beheading video was a war crime that was not made for entertainment purposes. The cat being burned was done for entertainment purposes, and getting it posted on a site like CJ would only encourage more stupid kids to burn cats and try to get them posted on big sites.

I don't think terrorists are surfing CJ and getting encouraged...

Some of the idiots in this thread need to read your post over and over and OVER again.

TDF · 07-24-2004, 10:25 AM

lesson learned,kick cats all you want,just dont put the video on the net and profit from it

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
lesson learned,kick cats all you want,just dont put the video on the net and profit from it

You are just too damn fli! Girl, how'd you get so fli?

Fletch XXX · 07-24-2004, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
I don't necessarily view the apology as backpeddling

Nor do I.

But there is something about it that bothers me.

Its not even about *the video itself* its about the TITLE.

Which is only words.

I think of those pictures of a girl with arrows stuck in her side, rape, I think of all the horror make-up fx I have done, and all the horrible stuff I have on DVD.

over the title of it?

Anyway, as I said before I dont support the video but the site owners choice to do as they choose. I never cared either way really.

I wonder when all these people will try and shut down NecroBabes.com and other sites they dont *agree* with.

foolio · 07-24-2004, 10:33 AM

I wonder if the people that get SO very upset over shit that happens to animals do ANY work to help out the homless, or donate any real amount of money to chairty that benifit *humans*. All this crying over a cat when we have people living worse than animals on the street - to me THATS the really sad issue. But hey, a kitty is cute, a bum is ugly right?

And as far as CJ - shit, this is what they do, It is a real shame that peopel, who KNOW full well this is thier style would complain about it. Shit, its CJ - wtf do you expect?

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by foolio
I wonder if the people that get SO very upset over shit that happens to animals do ANY work to help out the homless, or donate any real amount of money to chairty that benifit *humans*. All this crying over a cat when we have people living worse than animals on the street - to me THATS the really sad issue. But hey, a kitty is cute, a bum is ugly right?

Since you're fucking wondering... the answer in my case is YES.

Next question.

Fletch XXX · 07-24-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by foolio
I wonder if the people that get SO very upset over shit that happens to animals do ANY work to help out the homless, or donate any real amount of money to chairty that benifit *humans*. All this crying over a cat when we have people living worse than animals on the street - to me THATS the really sad issue. But hey, a kitty is cute, a bum is ugly right?

And as far as CJ - shit, this is what they do, It is a real shame that peopel, who KNOW full well this is thier style would complain about it. Shit, its CJ - wtf do you expect?

People on this board will step over a bum to buy their kid a new x-box game.

Grammar Police · 07-24-2004, 10:38 AM

Rick buckled like a $2 lawn chair. 'Atta boy rick...'atta boy.

ItBurnsWhenIpee · 07-24-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
People on this board will step over a bum to buy their kid a new x-box game.

I really believe most bums choose to live that lifestyle. Do they apply for a job at McDonalds? No, they stand outside and ask for money. They have the choice. The cat didn't choose to be murdered.

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Nor do I.

But there is something about it that bothers me.

Its not even about *the video itself* its about the TITLE.

Which is only words.

Well exactly. I agree fully.

But I also know that people have been apologizing for saying things wrong for thousands of years. I see this as conceding a minor point only.

I do get the feeling that some people here are reading into what Rick posted as him apologizing for posting the video. I wish they'd read it a bit closer, because again it is pretty plain to me that he is apologizing for the wording of the TITLE people.... the title. Not the posting of the video.

Grammar Police · 07-24-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
People on this board will step over a bum to buy their kid a new x-box game.

Humans are largely responsible for their own destiny. Animals are at our mercy. If there's a bum in front of Wal-Mart, he deserves to be there. He did it to himself. I don't feel bad for stepping over him. Animals are innocent. Are you too stoned to see the difference?

Fletch XXX · 07-24-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Well exactly. I agree fully.

But I also know that people have been apologizing for saying things wrong for thousands of years. I see this as conceding a minor point only.

I do get the feeling that some people here are reading into what Rick posted as him apologizing for posting the video. I wish they'd read it a bit closer, because again it is pretty plain to me that he is apologizing for the wording of the TITLE people.... the title. Not the posting of the video.

On Late night with Dave Attell a couple night ago, they showed some cops down south driving along a water bank shooting Nutria for fun.

COPS, LAW ENFORECEMENT - guess what, they were simply driving on the shore at night with a light, shining it onto the edge of water and guys with rifles simply took shoot and watched the animals twich and fall screaming.

this was on comedy central.

they were not eating Nutri, they were simply shooting them, COPS.

it makes me laugh that people cant stand seeing an animal burned (i agree) but shooting them for fun is totally fine.

"as long as they dont come in my house, i love the pretty animals"

shoot them otherwise.

ots all hypocritical bullshit

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Are you too stoned to see the difference?

Maybe we've had enough of this sort of grammar school insult for one week, yes?

Try talking like a human and give the little kiddy jabs a rest.

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Humans are largely responsible for their own destiny. Animals are at our mercy. If there's a bum in front of Wal-Mart, he deserves to be there. He did it to himself. I don't feel bad for stepping over him. Animals are innocent. Are you too stoned to see the difference?

Some humans seem to react on emotions alone. They don't like to be confused with facts and truth. In those instances the answer is, "No, they don't see the difference... stoned or not."

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
On Late night with Dave Attell a couple night ago, they showed some cops down south driving along a water bank shooting Nutria for fun.

COPS, LAW ENFORECEMENT - guess what, they were simply driving on the shore at night with a light, shining it onto the edge of water and guys with rifles simply took shoot and watched the animals twich and fall screaming.

this was on comedy central.

they were not eating Nutri, they were simply shooting them, COPS.

it makes me laugh that people cant stand seeing an animal burned (i agree) but shooting them for fun is totally fine.

"as long as they dont come in my house, i love the pretty animals"

shoot them otherwise.

ots all hypocritical bullshit

There is a ton of thinking that is backasswards in this world.

Take for example the fact that several people here seemed angrier at Rick, Marc and CJ for posting the video than they were at the bastards who MADE the video.

It still astounds me.

Grammar Police · 07-24-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Maybe we've had enough of this sort of grammar school insult for one week, yes?

Try talking like a human and give the little kiddy jabs a rest.

Kiddy jabs? I like how you left out the part of my quote that made a completely valid point. I guess one couldn't expect any more from a barely literate Canadian.

Donny · 07-24-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
On Late night with Dave Attell a couple night ago, they showed some cops down south driving along a water bank shooting Nutria for fun.

COPS, LAW ENFORECEMENT - guess what, they were simply driving on the shore at night with a light, shining it onto the edge of water and guys with rifles simply took shoot and watched the animals twich and fall screaming.

this was on comedy central.

they were not eating Nutri, they were simply shooting them, COPS.

it makes me laugh that people cant stand seeing an animal burned (i agree) but shooting them for fun is totally fine.

"as long as they dont come in my house, i love the pretty animals"

shoot them otherwise.

ots all hypocritical bullshit

It would only be hypocritical bullshit if those same cops were the ones shouting out against animal abuse.

I think those cops should be fired. They would be, if I was their boss.

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Kiddy jabs? I like how you left out the part of my quote that made a completely valid point. I guess one couldn't expect any more from a barely literate Canadian.

Your valid point was devalued with your childish closing remark which was inflammatory and unnecessary.

And yes, I am semi illiterut.

Grammar Police · 07-24-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Your valid point was devalued with your childish closing remark which was inflammatory and unnecessary.

And yes, I am semi illiterut.

It was hardly childish and unnecessary. It's well known that Fletch smokes too much weed. Smoking weed impairs a person's judgment. You smoke a lot too, huh?

Grammar Police · 07-24-2004, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
It would only be hypocritical bullshit if those same cops were the ones shouting out against animal abuse.

I think those cops should be fired. They would be, if I was their boss.

Careful, you're making sense. GFY has no tolerance for people like you.

dig420 · 07-24-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I wonder when all these people will try and shut down NecroBabes.com and other sites they dont *agree* with.

as soon as Necrobabes starts showing the girls getting brutally murdered while rednecks stand around and laugh about it, and only if they give it funny taglines.

Fletch, you know better.

It wasn't just the video, it was glorifying and condoning the act itself. That's what pissed everybody off.

dig420 · 07-24-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
It would only be hypocritical bullshit if those same cops were the ones shouting out against animal abuse.

I think those cops should be fired. They would be, if I was their boss.

Those cops would be fired anywhere except the deep, deep south.

foolio · 07-24-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Since you're fucking wondering... the answer in my case is YES.

Next question.

hey thats great - I really do give you much credit for that. I just wish everybody else could say the same. But there is no need to be rude ;) I was not atticking you at all, sorry if you took it as that.

CDSmith · 07-24-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
It was hardly childish and unnecessary. It's well known that Fletch smokes too much weed. Smoking weed impairs a person's judgment. You smoke a lot too, huh?

Not at all actually.

Okay, so you're saying I was wrong. Your comment to Fletch "Are you too stoned to see the difference?" wasn't taking a cheap shot at him.

Okay, I'll apologize to you, that is, if you don't see it as me buckling like a $2 lawn chair.

My point was I think we've had enough 10 page pissing matches for a while. That's all. Time to go outside and enjoy this nice Saturday we're having here. Cheers.

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Rick, Marc, and CJ Team Just want to deeply deeply and totally thank you guys for this decision revision and being sensitive and understanding in resolving this issue in such a prompt and professional manner. The reason why the cat video drew such an uproar in comparison to the beheading and other videos is that little animals are like children. They are completely defenseless, innocent, dependent on us for their survival, loving, playful, cuddly, cute, gentle, precious, and more. Losing a pet or seeing a pet hurt is as traumatic an event emotionally and psychologically to the majority of people as losing or seeing a child being hurt. Its that simple. It hits us at the core of our souls, and hits us so hard their pain and suffering is felt as our own pain. Most people value their pets to their hearts on the same level as their children. They are a part of the family. Most people are capable of killing someone who would hurt a child or a small animal I truly believe. And you could see that level of emotion clearly in many of the posts. If there is anything the overwhelming majority of the Web would agree on I think it would be there is one line out there, and it stops with the exploitation of children and cruelty to animals. Doesn't mean that many people cross that line despite the majority of people thinking anything past it is wrong, as we see with the unstoppable exploitation of kids by CP producers. But clearly if everyone was queried, I'm sure those two would be at the top of the list. I stated in one of my threads, the Net is one of the greatest communications tools mankind has ever created. Its very nature and structure is sheer brilliance - the Net is all of us. We get to play God. We get to be its creators. It is what we are. The good the bad and the ugly all intertwined into a hodgepodge of all our knowledge, all our thoughts, all our humor, all our fantasies, all our wharped and twisted perversions. In light of this freedom and such stretching power to create things that the entire planet can see and experience comes the inherent responsibility to govern ourselves and with minimal intervention of governments and powerful media corporations who traditionally are the regulators of all that is seen by the public. This responsibility though virtually completely unrestricted and unhindered because of the very nature of the Net's structure, is policed at the end of the day best by the voices of ourselves. And those voices when spoken in unity have immense and dramatic power, as we saw this past week with the cat video. Mere voices unified can exert the power of weapons, sometimes with the intensity of an all out battlefield. The people, your customers, your advertisers, your friends, your business associates, even your die hard CJ fans, spoke to you, and spoke with a ferocious roar. You and your team undoubtley had many sleepless and frustrating days dealing with this, and I'm sure this had to be one of the most difficult business decisions since CJ was founded. Especially since your site is solidly based on the mantra that no holes are barred, we show it all. You listened to everyone's voices and responded accordingly and for that I commend you and say you did the right thing with this situation and deserve to have full restoration of all your business and fan relationships that were affected by this. For what its worth, you have my full respect again and I deeply applaud you for handling this issue so responsibly. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	You did the right thing. __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

07-24-2004, 10:01 AM	#119
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	For what is worth, I support you, Rick. Nice letter.

07-24-2004, 10:11 AM	#122
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,306	this thread makes me wanna go kick my cat. but i won't, cause she's my baby. at least you can still see humans getting killed and other humiliating and degrading things happening to people at CJ.

07-24-2004, 10:11 AM	#123
n3in Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,377	Wow. I didn't see this coming. Whatever, you gotta do what you gotta do I guess. __________________ My sig was changed cause I don't know how to read the rules on this page http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html You can contact me about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

07-24-2004, 10:18 AM	#125
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	I don't hear you fucksticks compalining about TV shows that depict trophy hunting. Shooting mammals with fucking Bow & Arrow or guns. I bet you love going eat fucking chicken, beef or pork. Animals that are kept no better than slaves back in the 17th century and then brutally slaughtered. Fucking get over it. I definitely understand the concept behind the apology but its still bullshit that you had to go to such lengths over a cat.

07-24-2004, 10:25 AM	#128
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	lesson learned,kick cats all you want,just dont put the video on the net and profit from it __________________ Sig heil

07-24-2004, 10:33 AM	#131
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	I wonder if the people that get SO very upset over shit that happens to animals do ANY work to help out the homless, or donate any real amount of money to chairty that benifit humans. All this crying over a cat when we have people living worse than animals on the street - to me THATS the really sad issue. But hey, a kitty is cute, a bum is ugly right? And as far as CJ - shit, this is what they do, It is a real shame that peopel, who KNOW full well this is thier style would complain about it. Shit, its CJ - wtf do you expect? __________________

07-24-2004, 10:38 AM	#134
Grammar Police So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 727	Rick buckled like a $2 lawn chair. 'Atta boy rick...'atta boy.