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Sosa · 07-22-2004, 09:52 AM

Have a trip planned to goto denver for 3 days with friends.

czarina · 07-22-2004, 09:53 AM

I live in Mexico 50% of the year... and this is these months are that lucky half.

Orale orale!!

NBDesign · 07-22-2004, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adamneve
if your not going to Internext in Miami can you please
post why you won't be there?

Sure...

I am in Arizona... and this Internext is in Florida... I do not like to fly and it is too far to drive for a few days. So I just go to the one in Vegas... only 3 1/2 hours away. ;)

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Broda
I'm not going because

1. Business talk is much easier on icq or email.
2. I don't think people would do more business with me just because we meet at a convention. Most never get back to you anyway, no matter where you meet them.
3. It's expensive and will put my business on halt for a week.
4. I probably won't get invited to the private parties, so might as well just stay at home
5. It's too hot in Florida this time of year.

lame excuses

People prefer to do business with people they've met in person. Icq & email are no replacement for what you learn about a person in a 10 minute face to face conversation.

Parties are irrelevant, if you are serious about your business you will go to the shows

adamneve · 07-22-2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by BVF
and another thing. Don't even think about catching a cab somewhere and getting something to eat unless it's fast food and the cab is waiting for you when you come out..Me and keev made that mistake and went to denny's. It took us over an hour in that hot ass sun to finally get a fucking cab back to the hotel.

we went to the mall last time a day before the show and looked for a cab like an hour and a half

Lucy · 07-22-2004, 10:05 AM

because that's too far for me

Quickdraw · 07-22-2004, 10:12 AM

From what I have seen on this thread--

If you don't know anyone, you'll be the loner in the corner.

If you don't know anyone, you should go so you can get to know others. But you will still probably be the loner in th corner, lol

I have a pass, just undecided, I know only a few folks, but noone knows me

Of course, except for the guys that made a pass available to me

But I highly doubt they want me hanging around them for that long.

But hey, if I'm alone in the corner I can go back to my room and get some work done, maybe not so bad

NBDesign · 07-22-2004, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quickdraw
From what I have seen on this thread--

If you don't know anyone, you'll be the loner in the corner.

If you don't know anyone, you should go so you can get to know others. But you will still probably be the loner in th corner, lol

I have a pass, just undecided, I know only a few folks, but noone knows me Of course, except for the guys that made a pass available to me But I highly doubt they want me hanging around them for that long.

But hey, if I'm alone in the corner I can go back to my room and get some work done, maybe not so bad

Don't feel bad.. you will still have a good time. I didn't know anyone the first one I went to, met some real cool people and had a GREAT time and partied my ass off. Most people at Internext are really cool

Firehorse · 07-22-2004, 11:28 AM

Florida was great last year and I will miss it this year. We have too much going on in mainstream and adult, and our offline businesses, and the most important reason is family committments.

We will be in Vegas though!

koreanbbque · 07-22-2004, 11:30 AM

Because LA Mike runs a sweatshop and doesn't let his engineeers see the light of day!!!

LOL

j/k because I have a feeling that I wouldn't come back alive. Adrian said that he did way more drinking and partying at the Florida show than in Vegas and we did a nice amount of drinking in Vegas.

Elli · 07-22-2004, 11:33 AM

Well I don't like Florida, I'd rather stay at home and get work done, and I'm going to Florida in the fall anyway, so why go twice?

I prefer Vegas much more. There's something about the New York New York in the winter time...

Webmaster_Logic · 07-22-2004, 11:35 AM

My wedding is in november so i got to save save save

dirtydesignz · 07-22-2004, 11:46 AM

Business is great and we live in Steamboat Springs, no reason I can think of to leave this place

Besides, I have a tremedous fear of bugs (seriously) and I hear they are HUGE in Florida

mikesouth · 07-22-2004, 12:00 PM

Plain and simple ROI
I get a free hotel room and it still isnt worth it to me. The show is not what it used to be and I can make more money staying home or I can have more fun going to my beach house and going offshore fishing.

Broda · 07-22-2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
lame excuses

People prefer to do business with people they've met in person. Icq & email are no replacement for what you learn about a person in a 10 minute face to face conversation.

Parties are irrelevant, if you are serious about your business you will go to the shows

Not lame at all.
It's a matter of pros and cons. While you can see a lot of pros, I, for my business, can't. Not at the moment anyway. It's simply not worth it for me to go. And trust you me, for 80% of the attendees it won't be either

And yes, you are right that people prefer to do business with people they've met. Makes sense. But there are better ways to meet up than at big expos.

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 12:58 PM

We have 4 meetings scheduled for Florida, each of which will be a huge opportunity for our company.
Attending the show is making it easy for people to do business with us. No brainer

Ross · 07-22-2004, 01:33 PM

I won't be there coz me, my girl, my buddy and his girl are all leave to go to Mallorca on Saturday for a nice vacation

Vegas is the big one!! You bet your ass I'll be there!!

nastyking · 07-22-2004, 01:35 PM

i won't be there cause the sister of my brother has a romance with the daugher of my father

Broda · 07-22-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
We have 4 meetings scheduled for Florida, each of which will be a huge opportunity for our company.
Attending the show is making it easy for people to do business with us. No brainer

Good for you

I wish you the best.

Just doesn't work for me. Not this time around, anyway.

Evil Chris · 07-22-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Tony- You are absolutely right! Hell, I attended a show before I even opened my first site. Why? To Learn!

Beg borrow or steal, but make your way there- it's the best education in this business, if you open your eyes and ears.

Which one applies to you? The begging, borrowing, or stealing?

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris
Which one applies to you? The begging, borrowing, or stealing?

I pay my own way for everything - There's not a person in this world who can question that. I don't rely on bigger companies to send me places, can you say the same?

AVM · 07-22-2004, 01:47 PM

Because I don't know anyone, and it would be embaressing when someone says -

"Hey who are you, whats your name on GFY?". ....

"Oh, Im Mike, and on GFY go by the name AVM".....

"Who?, hmm big board, let me know what program you run, maybe I'll remember"....

"Actually, I just barely got my foot in the adult industry. I work primarily in high end domain names. Reselling, ppc monetization, development, etc. I have about six figures in domains"...

"Is that so, well very good, best of luck with all that eh, yeah, domainer thingy. But, well, it's time for me to get going, have a great time"....

Dialogue = Me = OWNED.

Evil Chris · 07-22-2004, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I pay my own way for everything - There's not a person in this world who can question that. I don't rely on bigger companies to send me places, can you say the same?

I'd pay to see someone knock that chip off your shoulder.

WicKed NinJas · 07-22-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
lame excuses

People prefer to do business with people they've met in person. Icq & email are no replacement for what you learn about a person in a 10 minute face to face conversation.

Parties are irrelevant, if you are serious about your business you will go to the shows

thats funny, I have been in this biz 5 years 3 full time, support an ever growing family on one income and have never attended a show, oh and I also just started up some paysites and an affiliate program so I guess your theory on that is way off base. I have a shit load of contact and have met only a couple of them face to face but do big $ deals with them everyday. People who think going ot the shows is required just crack me up. Its been my experiance that those people are the ones with no life and need the shows as a release and vacation.

King Adam · 07-22-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I disagree. With a show that size....Most people are too busy running from place to place...Private party to private party...And the average show newbie is way too intimitated to get in the middle of a bunch of people and a situation like that. They will end up sitting around all day.

A smaller show still brings out some key players and they are more apt to take the time to get to know and help you.

If you are a newbie...I would not even think of attending this show UNLESS you already have an in with somebody who can hold your hand a hook you up.

I totally agree with you. I've been going to adult conventions for 5 years or so. All of my best business deals have come from the smaller shows. When I go to the bigger shows, I end up partying the whole time and sleeping late. I'm not saying you won't get any deals done there, but in general, I think one will get more done at the smaller more personal shows. My favorite show was CyberNet in New Orleans. If you want to see what it was like, check out our video footage at http://www.d-moneyshow.com/archives/...s_may2000.html

And the weather in Florida in August is like a dirty armpit.

And I don't like AVN all that much anymore.

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WicKed NinJas
thats funny, I have been in this biz 5 years 3 full time, support an ever growing family on one income and have never attended a show, oh and I also just started up some paysites and an affiliate program so I guess your theory on that is way off base. I have a shit load of contact and have met only a couple of them face to face but do big $ deals with them everyday. People who think going ot the shows is required just crack me up.

Nice program- When do you expect to start accepting Visa?

Evil Chris · 07-22-2004, 02:02 PM

I limit myself to one Internext per year. The January show.
Not because I get a ton of biz done there, but because it's in the middle of a cold Montreal winter, and the break is welcome.

Small to mid-size shows is where most lower level business gets done nowadays.

Higher end biz? Email, ICQ, telephone.

baddog · 07-22-2004, 02:03 PM

Florida+August= high humidity = no baddog

plus I have a mainstream tradeshow in Vegas to attend

WicKed NinJas · 07-22-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Nice program- When do you expect to start accepting Visa?

In about a week. but hell with 50 new signups already this month and only a couple people promoting I guess its not really required huh.

Gonna have to come with somehting better than that.

Im curious, do you actually own anything or just a pawn for someone who matters??

LA Mike · 07-22-2004, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Because I don't know anyone, and it would be embaressing when someone says -

"Hey who are you, whats your name on GFY?". ....

"Oh, Im Mike, and on GFY go by the name AVM".....

"Who?, hmm big board, let me know what program you run, maybe I'll remember"....

"Actually, I just barely got my foot in the adult industry. I work primarily in high end domain names. Reselling, ppc monetization, development, etc. I have about six figures in domains"...

"Is that so, well very good, best of luck with all that eh, yeah, domainer thingy. But, well, it's time for me to get going, have a great time"....

Dialogue = Me = OWNED.

Its not like that at all. Its just about sitting around and having some drinks and getting to know people. Everyone there does the same things you do.. Just a bit differently.

You HAVE to go to the shows if you want to maximize your potential. Its great to get to know people and nobody is trying to OWN anyone. I talk to the millionares in one breath and the guy that rode his horse to the show the next. I dont care cuz I may need either of them for help someday or may work a deal with anyone of them down the road.

The shows helped me and my company (silvercash) grow immensly over the years.

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WicKed NinJas

Im curious, do you actually own anything or just a pawn for someone who matters??

ROFLMAO

WicKed NinJas · 07-22-2004, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
ROFLMAO

just what I thought, you can talk alot of game but when it comes down to it your just like everyone else. You wanna flame me cool, flame me, draw attention to me. You playing right into my hands so yea I guess you are just a pawn for someone who matters...ME

Fletch XXX · 07-22-2004, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WicKed NinJas
just what I thought, you can talk alot of game but when it comes down to it your just like everyone else. You wanna flame me cool, flame me, draw attention to me. You playing right into my hands so yea I guess you are just a pawn for someone who matters...ME

you must not get out of our trailer much do you boy?

i love when these no name losers poke their head into shit, and have NO FUCKING CLUE who or what they are talking about.

fucking inbreds

WicKed NinJas · 07-22-2004, 02:15 PM

LOLOLOLOL.. another good one from the GFY crew. Just bought a house dude, left the trailer about 6 years ago...LOLOLOLOL

the point wasnt to start a pissing match, the point is that shows are not required to build a business, plain and simple. But hey, Im just a no name loser who makes good money at this, dont listen to me

Fletch XXX · 07-22-2004, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WicKed NinJas
LOLOLOLOL.. another good one from the GFY crew. Just bought a house dude, left the trailer about 6 years ago...LOLOLOLOL

the point wasnt to start a pissing match, the point is that shows are not required to build a business, plain and simple. But hey, Im just a no name loser who makes good money at this, dont listen to me

whatever cousin fucker.

you have no clue who Emma even is, and you run your mouth.

put your foot in your mouth and backtrack.

Cash · 07-22-2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adamneve
if your not going to Internext in Miami can you please
post why you won't be there?

Because I will get married a few days afterwards

Fletch XXX · 07-22-2004, 02:22 PM

BTW:

HERE ARE PICS OF ME AND EMMA LIVING IT UP IN HAWAII.

drinks in hand and the toes in the sand

Pics are here

baddog · 07-22-2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
BTW:

HERE ARE PICS OF ME AND EMMA LIVING IT UP IN HAWAII.

drinks in hand and the toes in the sand

Pics are here

redirects

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
whatever cousin fucker.

you have no clue who Emma even is, and you run your mouth.

put your foot in your mouth and backtrack.

thank you fletch

Trixie Racer · 07-22-2004, 07:24 PM

I will be busy almost all of August making extra money before school starts. Going to Florida is an extra expense AND would take away a lot of income. That's why *I* won't be there. For anyone else who isn't going, I can be found at the Olympic Garden in Las Vegas.

Evil Chris · 07-22-2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
whatever cousin fucker.

you have no clue who Emma even is, and you run your mouth.

put your foot in your mouth and backtrack.

Kissing ass Fletch? You'll need some big ass lips brutha...

jade_dragon · 07-22-2004, 07:55 PM

I'll be the first one to admit it, this is the whole reason I am not going now!

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickCash Sarah
I have a wedding to attend. But the other Slickcash team members will be there in FULL FORCE.

No really I have some contracted work to oversee for my brick and mortor company and television networks pay good money for those car shows now so I am stuck here to make sure this is all done right. Do not have the time or money to fight with network lawyers! But don't worry ladies I will be at the next party, guess Juicy will have to take care of you all for me

emmanuelle · 07-22-2004, 07:56 PM

Wow Chris

Violence towards women and fat jokes all in one thread.

How low you've sunk in life......

TDF · 07-22-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAMike
Its not like that at all. Its just about sitting around and having some drinks and getting to know people. Everyone there does the same things you do.. Just a bit differently.

You HAVE to go to the shows if you want to maximize your potential. Its great to get to know people and nobody is trying to OWN anyone. I talk to the millionares in one breath and the guy that rode his horse to the show the next. I dont care cuz I may need either of them for help someday or may work a deal with anyone of them down the road.

The shows helped me and my company (silvercash) grow immensly over the years.

well said

Crypt · 07-22-2004, 08:01 PM

Because my mama cant pay the pass ;(

tony286 · 07-22-2004, 08:18 PM

I prefer small get togethers. I dont think unless you have mountains of traffic no one of worth is going to want to do business with you. My best side deals were made on this board meeting no one. That was before it became a yahoo group with nudie pics lol.

WicKed NinJas · 07-22-2004, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
whatever cousin fucker.

you have no clue who Emma even is, and you run your mouth.

put your foot in your mouth and backtrack.

Fucking my sister while the $$$ Rolls in, my son/brother plays the banjo while we do it too, its awesome.

IF THE TRAILERS ROCKING DONT COME A KNOCKIN

ok Im done with the trolls now back to work.

baddog · 07-22-2004, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixie Racer
I will be busy almost all of August making extra money before school starts. Going to Florida is an extra expense AND would take away a lot of income. That's why *I* won't be there. For anyone else who isn't going, I can be found at the Olympic Garden in Las Vegas.

I will be in Vegas for about a week starting 8/15 I think

fr8 · 07-22-2004, 09:14 PM

I have nothing to contribute this year.

Im just breaking into the industry. I already have plans for next year though.

Trixie Racer · 07-22-2004, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
I will be in Vegas for about a week starting 8/15 I think

After the 15th, I will be there August 18-22nd. By the way, I preferred you in street clothes over the suit. Much sexier.

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Firehorse Desire it and have it!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: www.fuckwithfire.com ICQ 512915 Posts: 30,767	Florida was great last year and I will miss it this year. We have too much going on in mainstream and adult, and our offline businesses, and the most important reason is family committments. We will be in Vegas though! __________________ MySweetEbony

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koreanbbque Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Riverside and San Diego Posts: 688	Because LA Mike runs a sweatshop and doesn't let his engineeers see the light of day!!! LOL j/k because I have a feeling that I wouldn't come back alive. Adrian said that he did way more drinking and partying at the Florida show than in Vegas and we did a nice amount of drinking in Vegas. __________________ KBBQ 2 3 1 6 1 8 8 1 6

07-22-2004, 11:33 AM	#61
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Well I don't like Florida, I'd rather stay at home and get work done, and I'm going to Florida in the fall anyway, so why go twice? I prefer Vegas much more. There's something about the New York New York in the winter time... __________________ email: [email protected]

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07-22-2004, 09:52 AM	#51
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Have a trip planned to goto denver for 3 days with friends.

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	I live in Mexico 50% of the year... and this is these months are that lucky half. Orale orale!!

07-22-2004, 10:12 AM	#57
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	From what I have seen on this thread-- If you don't know anyone, you'll be the loner in the corner. If you don't know anyone, you should go so you can get to know others. But you will still probably be the loner in th corner, lol I have a pass, just undecided, I know only a few folks, but noone knows me Of course, except for the guys that made a pass available to me But I highly doubt they want me hanging around them for that long. But hey, if I'm alone in the corner I can go back to my room and get some work done, maybe not so bad

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	Plain and simple ROI I get a free hotel room and it still isnt worth it to me. The show is not what it used to be and I can make more money staying home or I can have more fun going to my beach house and going offshore fishing. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	We have 4 meetings scheduled for Florida, each of which will be a huge opportunity for our company. Attending the show is making it easy for people to do business with us. No brainer

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Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	I won't be there coz me, my girl, my buddy and his girl are all leave to go to Mallorca on Saturday for a nice vacation Vegas is the big one!! You bet your ass I'll be there!!

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AVM Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Florida. Posts: 1,890	Because I don't know anyone, and it would be embaressing when someone says - "Hey who are you, whats your name on GFY?". .... "Oh, Im Mike, and on GFY go by the name AVM"..... "Who?, hmm big board, let me know what program you run, maybe I'll remember".... "Actually, I just barely got my foot in the adult industry. I work primarily in high end domain names. Reselling, ppc monetization, development, etc. I have about six figures in domains"... "Is that so, well very good, best of luck with all that eh, yeah, domainer thingy. But, well, it's time for me to get going, have a great time".... Dialogue = Me = OWNED.

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Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,233	I limit myself to one Internext per year. The January show. Not because I get a ton of biz done there, but because it's in the middle of a cold Montreal winter, and the break is welcome. Small to mid-size shows is where most lower level business gets done nowadays. Higher end biz? Email, ICQ, telephone. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

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WicKed NinJas Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dirty Dirty Dirty Dirty South Posts: 965	LOLOLOLOL.. another good one from the GFY crew. Just bought a house dude, left the trailer about 6 years ago...LOLOLOLOL the point wasnt to start a pissing match, the point is that shows are not required to build a business, plain and simple. But hey, Im just a no name loser who makes good money at this, dont listen to me __________________ CLICK HERE FOR SOME EXTREME PAYCHECKS 178.247.277 Last edited by WicKed NinJas; 07-22-2004 at 02:16 PM..

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I prefer small get togethers. I dont think unless you have mountains of traffic no one of worth is going to want to do business with you. My best side deals were made on this board meeting no one. That was before it became a yahoo group with nudie pics lol.

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