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Old 07-21-2004, 06:42 AM   #1
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Goddamn BUSH... What will he do next...

How come none of you idiots are ripping Kerry or Clinton for this?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...obe/index.html


"In his first public comments since news broke that he is the subject of a federal criminal probe involving top-secret memos, former Clinton administration national security adviser Sandy Berger said Tuesday evening that he made "an honest mistake."

"Berger took top-secret documents from the National Archives last year while reviewing materials for the 9/11 commission."

Oh yeah real "honest" mistake...


"Berger had been serving as an unpaid foreign policy adviser to presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry."
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They should throw that bitch in jail with bush. Pelican Bay will do.
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How come none of you idiots are ripping Kerry or Clinton for this?
because here, in the land of dopey liberals, its not the truth or whats right that counts, its whether or not your guy is in charge.

how else does a politician not know what *is* means?
how else does shoving classified documents down your pants become an" honest mistake"
how do the lies of a Joe Wilson dominate the news while the admission of a Russian president that saddam was planning attacks on the US are barely covered?
how else does every country in the world along with every congressman and senator believe saddam has WMDs until a republican president acts on this info?
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because here, in the land of dopey liberals, its not the truth or whats right that counts, its whether or not your guy is in charge.

how else does a politician not know what *is* means?
how else does shoving classified documents down your pants become an" honest mistake"
how do the lies of a Joe Wilson dominate the news while the admission of a Russian president that saddam was planning attacks on the US are barely covered?
how else does every country in the world along with every congressman and senator believe saddam has WMDs until a republican president acts on this info?
on that note.... greenspan is on TV right now OWNING liberals.
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on that note.... greenspan is on TV right now OWNING liberals.
in keeping with my honesty, I will tell you I'm not happy with his current interest in raising rates.
There is no danger or even sign of inflation. The economy needs to churn for a while before he starts to strangle it.
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I was about to start a thread about that yesterday. I'm voting democratic but I found it ironic that nobody posted the fact that a Democratic national security advisor STOLE documents from the archives.
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I was about to start a thread about that yesterday. I'm voting democratic but I found it ironic that nobody posted the fact that a Democratic national security advisor STOLE documents from the archives.
Liberal Media at work protecting Clinton's legacy once again.
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I wonder what exactly he's trying to hide.


Exactly...
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low Interest is inflating the housing market like mad....

Avg median home price in LA County is 414,000 Orange County is like 390,000...

This past year a 32% increase in real estate values across the board.
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He has no current official station under clinton or kerry.
It was already under investigation. The question is why was it leaked on the night before the 9/11 commision report was to be released, and right before the democratic convention?

Bush himself admitted that he shouldnt have used those words in his speech. The new joe wilson thing is just an opinion. It's much more disturbing that Bush stated that he wanted to find out who leaked his wifes name, and we still dont know. Incompetence? Or something else?

Anyway, who cares? John Kerry is the candidate. Not joe wilson or sandy berger.

If one of Bush's hand picked officials did something wrong, he'd fire them right?
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low Interest is inflating the housing market like mad....

Avg median home price in LA County is 414,000 Orange County is like 390,000...

This past year a 32% increase in real estate values across the board.
You don't make policy because of one segment of the economy.
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Oh and one thing thats managed to slip through the cracks. Those documents were copies. They were not one-of-a-kind original documents, but copies of documents. Just to be clear, people with the right clearance know exactly what was in all of those missing document copies.

You can decide why people who dont know what was in them are speculating instead of finding out if they were critical information or random papers.

Pretty fucked up regardless.
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Lets see...

Items were taken, mistakenly or not, in October and an investigation is started by the authorities.

Investigation is "discovered" by the so called liberal press days before the Democratic convention.

How convienent.
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He has no current official station under clinton or kerry.
It was already under investigation. The question is why was it leaked on the night before the 9/11 commision report was to be released, and right before the democratic convention?

Yes, the question with you clowns is always timing of the release of news, never why he was stealing the documents.
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"I dealt with this issue in October 2003 fully and completely," Berger added. "Everything that I have done all along in this process has been for the purpose of aiding and supporting the work of the 9/11 commission. And any suggestion to the contrary is simply, absolutely wrong."

looks like he dealt with this issue almost a year ago. The Republicans are just bringing it back up to take some heat away from them, for the elections. He is only stepping down temporally and plans to retake his position once this is dealt with again.
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Lets see...

Items were taken, mistakenly or not, in October and an investigation is started by the authorities.

Investigation is "discovered" by the so called liberal press days before the Democratic convention.

How convienent.
hmmm, lets see. Democrats want us to believe 9/11 was Bush's fault. A democrat goes to where the facts are stored and steals those damaging to the dems.

how convenient
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in keeping with my honesty, I will tell you I'm not happy with his current interest in raising rates.
There is no danger or even sign of inflation. The economy needs to churn for a while before he starts to strangle it.
good thing Greenspan is in charge and not u.

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Copies of documents, 12clicks. Copies.

They already knew about it for almost a full year. News of it leaks the day before the 9/11 commision report, and a few days before the dem. convention.

Pure coincidence.

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"I dealt with this issue in October 2003 fully and completely," Berger added. "Everything that I have done all along in this process has been for the purpose of aiding and supporting the work of the 9/11 commission. And any suggestion to the contrary is simply, absolutely wrong."

looks like he dealt with this issue almost a year ago. The Republicans are just bringing it back up to take some heat away from them, for the elections. He is only stepping down temporally and plans to retake his position once this is dealt with again.
can you "Ba Ba" for us at the end of these bullshit posts?

yes, lets listen to the thief's version of things and take it as gospel. typical.
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good thing Greenspan is in charge and not u.
wow, what a sage statement.
you might even get a few kids to think you have a clue.
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can you "Ba Ba" for us at the end of these bullshit posts?

yes, lets listen to the thief's version of things and take it as gospel. typical.
and when Paul O'Neill and Richard Clarke come out and speak against the President, let's believe the white house attack team.
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can you "Ba Ba" for us at the end of these bullshit posts?

yes, lets listen to the thief's version of things and take it as gospel. typical.
I guess that's the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? the way you are always believing everything Bush says?
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Copies of documents, 12clicks. Copies.

They already knew about it for almost a full year. News of it leaks the day before the 9/11 commision report, and a few days before the dem. convention.

Pure coincidence.

He has to go check with Rush to see what he is supposed to say next
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Copies of documents, 12clicks. Copies.

ahhhh, so stealing is ok if its just copies?
ABC news said last night they weren't all copies.
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isn't Rush already over for the day?
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ahhhh, so stealing is ok if its just copies?
ABC news said last night they weren't all copies.
No of course it's not ok. I said it was pretty fucked up regardless. (I'm also not a democrat btw)

My point is that this is not "breaking news", just a "breaking story". And that, in and of itself, makes it suspect in my eyes..

I feel the same way about berger as I do about the person who Bush said he was going to find asap for leaking a cia operatives name to the press. Both look to be possible treason.. very serious.
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LIBERAL MEDIA???????????????????????????????????????????
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I guess that's the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? the way you are always believing everything Bush says?
I believe the truth and can always produce it. You believe what your side tells you because thats what you do.

sandy berger stole classified documents and should go to jail.
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again the pot calling the kettle black, do we not remember the hard on the Republicans had for Clinton his entire 8 years?
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dam 12clicks alive... you gonna be in florida so people can get us mixed up again?
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dam 12clicks alive... you gonna be in florida so people can get us mixed up again?
you wish you could look so good.
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I believe the truth and can always produce it. You believe what your side tells you because thats what you do.

sandy berger stole classified documents and should go to jail.
I don't believe either side, I vote for the guy I believe is best suited for the job and not for a party. As it turns out it's mostly Democrat.

So what's your opinion on Donald Rumpfuker and his contempt of congress? I assume you think he should have abide by the laws of this country? Or is that only for Democrats?
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HAHAHAHA your the one that came to me saying people were getting us confused.... and people didnt recognize you without your mustache.... so you must be taking after me. Its ok dont hate.


btw the housing comment you made was right on, I stand corrected.

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LIBERAL MEDIA???????????????????????????????????????????
You're joking right!?! hahahahahahhahahah!

Last set of surveys done 7 months ago throughout the news media industry inthe US put the percentage of reporters, editors, newswriters, and media managers and owners that describe themselves as democrats or liberals at over 87%.

The fact that you don't notice how stories are missed, under or overemphasized, etc.... merely speaks to their skill as professional media people. (i.e the story about Putin releasing intelligence that Hussain was planning attacks against the US.....Did you see THAT story screaming accross CNN or the networks?)
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I don't believe either side, I vote for the guy I believe is best suited for the job and not for a party. As it turns out it's mostly Democrat.

So what's your opinion on Donald Rumpfuker and his contempt of congress? I assume you think he should have abide by the laws of this country? Or is that only for Democrats?
having a democratic blowhard *threaten* him with contempt is quite a bit different than actually being in contempt.
you'd understand that if ...............................well no, I guess you wouldn't.
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HAHAHAHA your the one that came to me saying people were getting us confused.... and people didnt recognize you without your mustache.... so you must be taking after me. Its ok dont hate.


btw the housing comment you made was right on, I stand corrected.
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I believe the truth and can always produce it. You believe what your side tells you because thats what you do.

sandy berger stole classified documents and should go to jail.
you believe the truth and yet you've already convicted him and sent him up the river before charges have been brought. That's odd logic.
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you believe the truth and yet you've already convicted him and sent him up the river before charges have been brought. That's odd logic.
Um, he admitted doing it.
I guess that doesn't mean anything to you liberals.

please keep on defending him. it makes you look better and better.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:42 AM   #45
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If the guy a) admitted his wrongdoing, b) dealt with it last year when it was first brought to light and c) only stole copies of otherwise available documents, then isn't this hugely petty to bring it up again?

Surely there are politicians doing worse things out there than this? If they're looking for dirt, this is a pretty pathetic attempt, if you ask me.
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Um, he admitted doing it.
I guess that doesn't mean anything to you liberals.

please keep on defending him. it makes you look better and better.
yea I get it now, it's much better to continue the lies like Bush dose everyday.. After all the more you tell it the more people like you believe it..

but regardless arguing with people like you is like talking to a brick wall.. I just hope you still sport him when your ass gets drafted.
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If the guy a) admitted his wrongdoing, b) dealt with it last year when it was first brought to light and c) only stole copies of otherwise available documents, then isn't this hugely petty to bring it up again?

Surely there are politicians doing worse things out there than this? If they're looking for dirt, this is a pretty pathetic attempt, if you ask me.
a) he didn't admit any wrong doing. he said shoving classified documents down his pants was a "careless mistake"
b) *he* says he dealt with it last year. This is what the assistant AG said about it:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...1/112117.shtml
it hasn't been "dealt with"
c) he stole copies of CLASSIFIED documents and its been reported that some of the stuff he took were NOT copies. People go to jail for stealing classified documents, whether copies or originals.



on an unrelated note, Hi Beauty.
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yea I get it now, it's much better to continue the lies like Bush dose everyday.. After all the more you tell it the more people like you believe it..

but regardless arguing with people like you is like talking to a brick wall.. I just hope you still sport him when your ass gets drafted.
Translation: once again, I've been exposed for the idiot I am. let me change the subject to avoid some of the embarrassment of continuing.
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a) he didn't admit any wrong doing. he said shoving classified documents down his pants was a "careless mistake"
b) *he* says he dealt with it last year. This is what the assistant AG said about it:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...1/112117.shtml
it hasn't been "dealt with"
c) he stole copies of CLASSIFIED documents and its been reported that some of the stuff he took were NOT copies. People go to jail for stealing classified documents, whether copies or originals.



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Well I sit corrected, then. I would stand, but then I wouldn't be able to reach my keyboard.

Hiya handsome.
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