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volante 07-18-2004 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
If cause is not god, then what is it?
http://www.igspot.com/banghead.gif

detoxed 07-18-2004 02:49 PM

BTW yes I did graduate high school with a very high GPA. Very high score on the ACT as well.

detoxed 07-18-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
If cause is not god, then what is it?
So you are saying cause does not exist?
:1orglaugh

boobmaster 07-18-2004 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Intrigue
but scientific theory provides a cause... no scientist just says it's random, there's a few differant theorys, and even if for some reason your anti science, what about the other oddball theorys, why would it have to be god, what about aliens? seems as if their is just about a big as chance of it being aliens as god, that deposited us here.
What you say is true for everything EXCEPT theories regarding the origin of the universe and the origin of life. The big band had no cause. It came out of 'absolute nothingness', which is even more vacuous that 'nothingness'. There have been some attempts to ascribe a cause but these have not caught on, as far as I know.

boobmaster 07-18-2004 02:57 PM

:)

boobmaster 07-18-2004 02:58 PM

I can't get the third page of this thread to load so I'll have to check back later.

detoxed 07-18-2004 02:58 PM

boobmaster, with everything you have typed, you have done NOTHING to help prove your point. Want to try again?

Clicky_Bucks 07-18-2004 03:08 PM

"And then Noah got two of each animal, one male and one female, and boarded an enormous ark which saved all the species on the planet from a flood" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Clicky_Bucks
"And then Noah got two of each animal, one male and one female, and boarded an enormous ark which saved all the species on the planet from a flood" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dont laugh, it was the size of http://www.freedomship.com/

Dagwolf 07-18-2004 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
Jimmy Swaggart
Robert Tilton.

Jim Bakker.

xxxdesign-net 07-18-2004 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Wrong dude, do a quick search. Atheists can believe in ghosts. You are equating believing in physics with believing in God. Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww im done with this one.

:eek7 lol .. ok.. seems like you read my post while sneezing,...

Atheists can believe in ghosts.? Yeah so.. where do I say otherwise.!??

boobmaster 07-18-2004 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
boobmaster, with everything you have typed, you have done NOTHING to help prove your point. Want to try again?
Is that so? You are a troll. The ONLY reason you made this post was to ridicule the beliefs of others. You have not provided a single intelligent answer to any of my posts. Since it is clear that you are only trying to bait me at this point, it is pointless for me to waste any more of my time on you.

boobmaster 07-18-2004 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
So you are saying cause does not exist?
:1orglaugh

You have absolutely NO reasoning skills.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Is that so? You are a troll. The ONLY reason you made this post was to ridicule the beliefs of others. You have not provided a single intelligent answer to any of my posts. Since it is clear that you are only trying to bait me at this point, it is pointless for me to waste any more of my time on you.
The posts that deserve an intelligent answer have been answered and then left dead by you.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You have absolutely NO reasoning skills.
You have absolutely no humor skills, because that was a joke.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
:eek7 lol .. ok.. seems like you read my post while sneezing,...

Atheists can believe in ghosts.? Yeah so.. where do I say otherwise.!??


hmm was probably replying to boobmaster

xxxdesign-net 07-18-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Did you even graduate from high school? If you accept the premise that ghosts exist, you must then explain how they come into existence. The point here is that in order to do so, you can no longer hide behind the theory of exolution since this theory is only concerned with the life we can see and touch.

So answer the question (or STFU) .... how did ghosts come into being?

No he hides behind the "paranormal" theory... "I cannot explain it but it HAS TO be physics..." Call it blind faith if you want.. lol

boobmaster 07-18-2004 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
BTW yes I did graduate high school with a very high GPA. Very high score on the ACT as well.
I don't believe you.

boobmaster 07-18-2004 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
You have absolutely no humor skills, because that was a joke.
I don't find trolls who get off on making others feel inferior funny.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
No he hides behind the "paranormal" theory... "I cannot explain it but it HAS TO be physics..." Call it blind faith if you want.. lol
Hiding? I just copied and pasted someone thoughts from Google. LOL.

No one has given me a reason to research it further and provide more compelling reasons. Tell me why that was wrong.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I don't find trolls who get off on making others feel inferior funny.
Dont want to feel inferior? Dont act inferior.

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Dont want to feel inferior? Dont act inferior.
BTW before you say "well just because i defend my belief in god i am inferior?"


no. You are inferior because you inadequately defended your belief in god. You would have been much smarter just to say "I have faith"

detoxed 07-18-2004 03:27 PM

I'm done with this thread its boring now.

boobmaster 07-18-2004 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
BTW before you say "well just because i defend my belief in god i am inferior?"


no. You are inferior because you inadequately defended your belief in god. You would have been much smarter just to say "I have faith"

You have not yet replied to my remarks about evolution and probability. Here, read this and comment:

http://gracefuliving.org/ultimate_questions/imp-073.htm

Oh, and for all the big, fancy words that you don't understand, you can look up the meanings here:

http://www.dictionary.com/

FiReC 07-18-2004 03:35 PM

if we were all killed tomorrow would the idea/concept of god die with us? is god just a human idea? does my dog believe in god?

pxxx 07-18-2004 03:35 PM

I believe in God and call me a moron or so on, that is your problem.

If you believe in Him all your life, and then die, you get Heaven. Many people ask, " What if i believe in Him and then die and find out that he does not exist?" Well, you didn't lose anything by believing. What if you die and then realize that he exists? What i am trying to say is that it is a win-win situation because even "IF" he does not exist, believing in Him gave me a very nice guideline to live my life and i lived happy.

For those that don't believe, there is nothing i can do about that. Even though they tell me that it is our job to recruit non- believers. There is no way you can change what someone believes in or not. It is a decision that only that person can make for him/her self. So if you do not believe, I totally respect that and I also ask that you respect the fact that I do believe.

Joe Citizen 07-18-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
I beleive that there is a God. There has to be! Just look around. Something divine had to of put this all together. The big bang theory just does not fit in my opinion.
Sorry, but when I look around I see the majesty of natural law and natural selection.

It's a beautiful thing.

harvey 07-18-2004 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Post your most convincing argument that God does not exist and religious people are morons.
I do exist, son, and you all are morons under my dominion :glugglug

Tom_PMs 07-18-2004 04:24 PM

Could God microwave a burrito so hot that he himself couldnt eat it right away?

(my fav. question of the day)


Also, whether you believe in God (as you yourself define him/her/it), or believe in big-bang/other origin theory, you have to go on a leap of faith at some point.

It's a tree falling in the woods thing.

The belief itself is proof enough to the believer.

TheGoldenChild 07-18-2004 04:25 PM

one word.

Virtumike.

:-))

Joe Citizen 07-18-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
In order for your belief to be sustained, you need to show that evolution is a credible theory of the origin of life. I will submit to you that while there is abundant evidence that species evolve at the micro level, there is none which suggests that species evolve at the macro level.
Well, duh!

That's because micro evolution can be observed while macro evolution cannot because of the time frames involved.

But there is still plenty of evidence for macro evolution in the fossil record - Archaeopteryx being a classic example.

Gunni 07-18-2004 04:32 PM

I wasn't religious untill the pope called Bush the anti-christ, then it all came clear to me...

boobmaster 07-18-2004 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Sorry, but when I look around I see the majesty of natural law and natural selection.

It's a beautiful thing.

Another interesting problem for evolution .... How to explain the existence of natural selection. Chance doesn't.

Joe Citizen 07-18-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
No! Neither side can be proven conclusively. There are two possibilities: (1) chance, or (2) cause. I think it is more rational to believe cause over chance given the statistical improbability of chance.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

Read and learn.

boobmaster 07-18-2004 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Well, duh!

That's because micro evolution can be observed while macro evolution cannot because of the time frames involved.

But there is still plenty of evidence for macro evolution in the fossil record - Archaeopteryx being a classic example.

BULLSHIT! There is no CREDIBLE evidence for macroevolution in the fossil record. The time explanation put forth by evolutionists is also bullshit. Whenever an evolutionist gets boxed into a corner, he/she always brings up the time explanation.

Interestingly enough, if you really look into this idea, you will find that it SHOULD take a hell of a lot longer than 4.5 billion years (age of the earth) for a simple strand of DNA in a warm pond somewhere to evolve into anything approaching a human being. We should be older than the earth.

diesel 07-18-2004 04:43 PM

Its easy to live when you believe in god ..

boobmaster 07-18-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html

Read and learn.

I have already. See my post on this, which you obviously haven't gotten to yet. It is not convincing.

The poeple over on talkorigins seem to spend a lot of time bashing creationist claims. If, as the often say, creationism is a stupid theory, why waste all that time trying to discredit it. I'm sure Richard Dawkins has bnetter things to do with his time.

Evolutionism is as much a faith based belief as is the belief in god. These men have careers to protect.

Joe Citizen 07-18-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I have already. See my post on this, which you obviously haven't gotten to yet. It is not convincing.

The poeple over on talkorigins seem to spend a lot of time bashing creationist claims. If, as the often say, creationism is a stupid theory, why waste all that time trying to discredit it. I'm sure Richard Dawkins has bnetter things to do with his time.

Evolutionism is as much a faith based belief as is the belief in god. These men have careers to protect.

"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." - Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975)

If you don't know who he is then you shouldn't be arguing this topic.

Joe Citizen 07-18-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The time explanation put forth by evolutionists is also bullshit. Whenever an evolutionist gets boxed into a corner, he/she always brings up the time explanation.
Don't tell me, you believe the world is 6000 years old, right?

:1orglaugh

boobmaster 07-18-2004 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." - Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975)

If you don't know who he is then you shouldn't be arguing this topic.

A Russian biologist. Of course he was going to be an evolutionist. He had no choice. He was reared in a godless country. It was spoon fed to him.


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