100:glugglug

thats the problem... with all those changes on google and the other engines

LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days :) ) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My :2 cents: (Canadian Currency)

:winkwink: :thumbsup

overture stats are monthly.. so that comes out at about 30,000 a day.

Zaha, you are completely wrong in your direct SE statements and your inferences regarding overture.

(Why do I ever bother explain this to those who are clueless?)

2 reasons why you are wrong:

1) That number you came up with 833073 for "89.com" is the total searches overture came up with for the Month of June [not a single day] Assuming this number was an accurate portrayel of the actual searches the term "89.com" got last month (which it most certainly is not) that would still only come to 27,779 searches per day, which is nowhere near your 300K a day.

2) Overture is not an accurate tool, it leads inexperienced webmasters to believe there is more traffic out there than there really is.

You're like Sleazy - you don't understand the volume of SE traffic on the net. You way, way overestimate it.

of course

let's not freak out today

:1orglaugh
that overture example is very funny

89 surely gets a nice chunk of SE traffic but.....
I won't comment on the rest :glugglug

if the SE game would work like that I wouldn't be here no more.

just because a keyword gets 1.000.000 searches a month does not mean your site (regardless of #1, #2 or #3 in the serps) will get ~33.333 uniques a day lol

that would be awesome
oh and... kush said already that the overture numbers are inaccurate

POST SOME NUMBERS MAN! :Graucho :thumbsup

uh I was simply pointing out that ZaHa's estimations were way off. kush just reiterated it.

I know a little bit about SE's.

my opinion on this.. is the biggest SE players (mainstream+adults) make way more more than a guy listed on nearly every damn TGP on earth..everyday...

However, in the adult biz.. the TGP gurus makes more money than the SE gurus that I know... (but I dont necessarily know alot)

If you think Quiet is one of the top TGP a guy.. isf theres any SE guys in adult making more.. maybe Wiredguy know.. ?

Good point, dude.

I know a few gallery submitters with traffic that rivals thehun. So if they are counted there might be more people doing very very well with TGP.

The bitch about SE is that it is constantly changing so the reliability of the income source is not there.

TGP has been pretty static now for 2 years. More movies but that is about it.

I wouldnt call Quiet a TGP guy, he's more a paysite guy :)

TGP guys are thehun, worldsex, elephantlist, book-mark, madthumbs, tiava, sublime, teeniefiles etc

To me when you compare TGP gurus and SE gurus... you dont make a comparasion between the guy running Google vs the guy running the Hun... but the TOP gallery submitters Vs the Top SEO experts...

A paysite guy is a guy like Pimpdog.. that knows dick about the TGP game and SE but make his money with affilaites... Quiet is a TGP(mgp) guy.. He could certainly make as much money just being an affiliate promoting the right sites ... :2 cents:

well estimating thehun makes about 140-160k a month (judging by various prices).. some of the top SE people have definitely made at least that much, but to do it consistently would be very uncommon...

maybe there are TGP owners who make more than that, i doubt there is many though.

:eek7

buying gallery spots makes you a TGP guy?

I always thought owning a tgp makes you one :)

TGP guy.. TGP guru.. whatever..

That post was actually 1 of the only posts you have made that are actually worth reading and correct.:)

What a thread! Most of the posts don't even attempt to address the original question... as if it could be answered anyway :helpme

Take either specialization and you have a small number of guys making some very serious money, a lot more making reasonable money, and then the rest. There are people working alone (some full-time, some part-time), there are partnerships and outfits with a bunch of employees. There are standalone sites and others that are part of networks (some of which are going to include both TGPs and sites optimized for SE traffic). There are sites being run on a shoestring and others with big money sunk in them.

If we knew everyone's stats (and we don't), how can anyone seriously imagine you could factor in all those variations?