a history problem? - why are some people still so reserved regarding germans? - GoFuckYourself.com

smack · 07-16-2004, 02:41 PM

people are reserved about germans?

i never really thought about it...

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by smack
people are reserved about germans?

i never really thought about it...

and when you start thinking about it - what do you think?

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 02:44 PM

I wouldn't doubt it, but provide some more information, examples, or thoughts to start this thread off.

smack · 07-16-2004, 02:45 PM

well, when i start thinking about the only reason i can come up with is the holocaust. but that's old news.

i went to germany and austria a few years back. people are very friendly there. so i dunno, from my perspective at least there are no grudges.

polish_aristocrat · 07-16-2004, 02:46 PM

WW1 and WW2

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
WW1 and WW2

Three's a charm.

Robertf · 07-16-2004, 02:47 PM

Germans are okay .. except when you have to play soccer against them ...

Preacher · 07-16-2004, 02:48 PM

smack · 07-16-2004, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
WW1 and WW2

considering in WWII they had the choice of remaining ignorant, and listening to their government spewed propaghanda, OR being hauled off by the death's head, i dunno if you can hate them for that....

self preservation i suppose.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by smack
well, when i start thinking about the only reason i can come up with is the holocaust. but that's old news.

i went to germany and austria a few years back. people are very friendly there. so i dunno, from my perspective at least there are no grudges.

ok, that's great. 60-70% of my time I deal with US or Canadian customers and I never had the feeling that I am not liked because I come from the "wrong" country.

but my concern is, that there are still some prejudices out there what keep people from dealing with me.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Three's a charm.

i don't like you and your opinions - go away

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 02:56 PM

WWII Germany was in full social, cultural, and economical bloom, and supported its native people to the fullest.

But now fortunately everything has changed for the better and it has lots of Jews, blacks, arabs, social expenditures, crime, whining, and other such treasures of MultiCult.

Anothers · 07-16-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
ok, that's great. 60-70% of my time I deal with US or Canadian customers and I never had the feeling that I am not liked because I come from the "wrong" country.

but my concern is, that there are still some prejudices out there what keep people from dealing with me.

maybe you should hide your Luger when you're dealing with them?

joke

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
i don't like you and your opinions - go away

I don't like some people and some opinions, but I wouldn't try to suppress them like people of your ilk tend to get off on.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
WWII Germany was in full social, cultural, and economical bloom, and supported its native people to the fullest.

But now fortunately everything has changed for the better and it has lots of Jews, blacks, arabs, social expenditures, crime, whining, and other such treasures of MultiCult.

this is exactly what i mean

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
this is exactly what i mean

But I am cheering for MultiCult, in spite of pesky things such as fact and reason! What more could you want of me?

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
But I am cheering for MultiCult, in spite of pesky things such as fact and reason! What more could you want of me?

first I wanted to answer something intelligent, but now I decided just to say: bla bla bla...

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
first I wanted to answer something intelligent, but now I decided just to say: bla bla bla...

Oh, I see. You were unable to answer. Why not just say so?

Mike Okitch · 07-16-2004, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Three's a charm.

Idiot

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Oh, I see. You were unable to answer. Why not just say so?

because discussing with you is like trying to convince a stone to take part in a 100 m run at the olympic games. I saw that last time - it's a waste.

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
because discussing with you is like trying to convince a stone to take part in a 100 m run at the olympic games. I saw that last time - it's a waste.

So you are saying that I stick to my guns or that debating me is futile? My oh my, thank you then!

gxer · 07-16-2004, 04:09 PM

about what history period you talking about ?
in general ? last 20 years ? last 100 years? last 300 years?

you'll hear different oppinions about every time period.

last 30 years germans are OK , but before ... - i doubt you'll here
any good words from Poland for example or Czech, but again - now they are good neighbours, how much time it will be ?
who knows ...

that's the true if you wanna hear .
And don't ask Americans about germans, they just know them exactly as they know arabs.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
So you are saying that I stick to my guns or that debating me is futile? My oh my, thank you then!

futile, yes, I think that's the word for that

Ironhorse · 07-16-2004, 04:13 PM

The german as a people are extremely xenophobic and, although it's been tried, could never be subjugated or 'assimilated'.

After centuries of bloody warfare, they brought the Roman Empire to its knees and assumed the mantle of world power, effectively becoming the Holy Roman Empire.

It was German Saxons that crushed whatever was left in the British Isles after the Romans ducked tails and ran, it was germanic Vikings that ravished the Europe not yet claimed by the Holy Roman Empire.

After one of the most unfair verdict after WWI it took less than 20 years for Germany to snap back, dominate and conquer virtually all of Europe and after yet another catastrophic defeat after WWII Germany, albeit with help from US capital, emerged as one of the top 7 world economic powers in less than 50 years.

For over 2000 years, the german soldier was maybe one of the most fearsome warrior, a very effective killing machine. Time and time again led by poweful, charismatic leaders the german warmachine crushed its enemies and dominated the world. One of its greatest legacies is the language we are speaking here today, and is maybe one of the most influential languages in the world, English is a germanic language.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
The german as a people are extremely xenophobic and, although it's been tried, could never be subjugated or 'assimilated'.

After centuries of bloody warfare, they brought the Roman Empire to its knees and assumed the mantle of world power, effectively becoming the Holy Roman Empire.

It was German Saxons that crushed whatever was left in the British Isles after the Romans ducked tails and ran, it was germanic Vikings that ravished the Europe not yet claimed by the Holy Roman Empire.

After one of the most unfair verdict after WWI it took less than 20 years for Germany to snap back, dominate and conquer virtually all of Europe and after yet another catastrophic defeat after WWII Germany, albeit with help from US capital, emerged as one of the top 7 world economic powers in less than 50 years.

For over 2000 years, the german soldier was maybe one of the most fearsome warrior, a very effective killing machine. Time and time again led by poweful, charismatic leaders the german warmachine crushed its enemies and dominated the world. One of its greatest legacies is the language we are speaking here today, and is maybe one of the most influential languages in the world, English is a germanic language.

you frighten me

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
futile, yes, I think that's the word for that

I know you are desperately trying to make it sound like an insult, but I'll take it as a compliment any way. Bye, love.

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
you frighten me

Everything frightens a properly indoctrinated sheepling, do not feel alone.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I know you are desperately trying to make it sound like an insult, but I'll take it as a compliment any way. Bye, love.

no, no problem, i'm past the point of trying to insult you. everytime you're posting your nonsense you proudly show why you got yourself that nick. that's enough - I do not have to add something

Repetitive Monkey · 07-16-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
no, no problem, i'm past the point of trying to insult you. everytime you're posting your nonsense you proudly show why you got yourself that nick. that's enough - I do not have to add something

You should probably add how we, or rather you, got into this in the first place. You aren't capable of normal discussion and exchange of opinions, and insult people with different opinions as a drop-in for producing at least some argumentation. In fact, you aren't even capable of insulting, though genuinely trying, no doubt. It's so sweet, in a mad-hamster-with-no-teeth kind of way.

MaDalton · 07-16-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You should probably add how we, or rather you, got into this in the first place. You aren't capable of normal discussion and exchange of opinions, and insult people with different opinions as a drop-in for producing at least some argumentation. In fact, you aren't even capable of insulting, though genuinely trying, no doubt. It's so sweet, in a mad-hamster-with-no-teeth kind of way.

probably you should refresh your brain a bit - you might remember some discussions before today. and it was not just me who was trying to discuss with you - and we all gave up because it is not possible. But I must admit that you are good in what you are doing - what a waste of intelligence. what would you be able to reach if you were not that bullheaded with your political bullshit.

Ironhorse · 07-16-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
you frighten me

You can run but you can't hide

Steve · 07-16-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by gxer

last 30 years germans are OK , but before ... - i doubt you'll here
any good words from Poland for example or Czech, but again - now they are good neighbours, how much time it will be ?
who knows ...

In the late '80's, I was a kid working in construction. Many companies used cheap labor from Europe, and one job I worked on was loaded with Polish workers.

They used to tell me to forget about Russia, but they were seriously stressed about Germany becoming united. They said if The Wall came down, Germans would be marching within 5 years. And they were scared shitless of that prospect.

Thankfully, Ze Germans are chillin, just like the rest of the EU.

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smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	well, when i start thinking about the only reason i can come up with is the holocaust. but that's old news. i went to germany and austria a few years back. people are very friendly there. so i dunno, from my perspective at least there are no grudges. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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Repetitive Monkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,505	I wouldn't doubt it, but provide some more information, examples, or thoughts to start this thread off.

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Repetitive Monkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,505	WWII Germany was in full social, cultural, and economical bloom, and supported its native people to the fullest. But now fortunately everything has changed for the better and it has lots of Jews, blacks, arabs, social expenditures, crime, whining, and other such treasures of MultiCult.

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gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	about what history period you talking about ? in general ? last 20 years ? last 100 years? last 300 years? you'll hear different oppinions about every time period. last 30 years germans are OK , but before ... - i doubt you'll here any good words from Poland for example or Czech, but again - now they are good neighbours, how much time it will be ? who knows ... that's the true if you wanna hear . And don't ask Americans about germans, they just know them exactly as they know arabs.

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Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	The german as a people are extremely xenophobic and, although it's been tried, could never be subjugated or 'assimilated'. After centuries of bloody warfare, they brought the Roman Empire to its knees and assumed the mantle of world power, effectively becoming the Holy Roman Empire. It was German Saxons that crushed whatever was left in the British Isles after the Romans ducked tails and ran, it was germanic Vikings that ravished the Europe not yet claimed by the Holy Roman Empire. After one of the most unfair verdict after WWI it took less than 20 years for Germany to snap back, dominate and conquer virtually all of Europe and after yet another catastrophic defeat after WWII Germany, albeit with help from US capital, emerged as one of the top 7 world economic powers in less than 50 years. For over 2000 years, the german soldier was maybe one of the most fearsome warrior, a very effective killing machine. Time and time again led by poweful, charismatic leaders the german warmachine crushed its enemies and dominated the world. One of its greatest legacies is the language we are speaking here today, and is maybe one of the most influential languages in the world, English is a germanic language. __________________ [email protected]