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RED&P RedEye · 07-16-2004, 05:03 AM

Hi! I am RedEye, from RED & Partners Group, RED & Partners B.V. Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

I am happy to announce a new partnership/sponsorship program for You!

ETU-CASH.COM
Expect The Unexpected.

It took our team half a year to develop this stuff. Unlike many other programs out there we dont have 50 websites with the same stuff everyone else has. Nor we have weird shit no one will ever buy.

What we did was EXTREMELY difficult and is based on our sole philosophy: make only good products.

George Lukas once said, that You cant really make a new genre in a movie, because there are none and all of them have been made already. You just cant make it because it simply doesnt exist.

The problem in online porn is quite similar and is very simple , as You know Your average normal porn just doesnt sell. Well it does, and it does pretty well , but the competition is so huge that YOUR sale is a fucking luck. So some people make weird porn trying to make a new niche and hope to get some sales, but guess what? Usually they never do. BECAUSE YOU CANT MAKE A NEW GENRE. Because for the last few thousands of years there have been only a few ways to fuck ! :D Thus there are only a few ways to show it . Of course You can make a paysite with fucking elephants or Sex on Moon. But beleive it or not, it just wont sell.

So what can You do?

What You can do is do what was always done, just do it better.

And that's what we did in a way.

We found out that there are quite a few niches out there very very popular among surfers , go and read any free porn stories website, but guess what, there are almost no paysites in those niches. Just because of a very simple reason - it's very difficult to make such porn.

So with a huge effort we have created the first 3 paysites:

1. CreamInTeen.com
Beautifull shy teens indeed get their young pussies full of sperm. It's excellent. Dont ask about models. It was not easy, that's all I can say.

2. RaveGloryHole.com
Imagine a rave club with a glory hole in a WC and girls who just HAVE to suck strangers to get out!
(We had to rent a fucking club and build a fucking WC).

3. 2CrazyBitches.com
It's a dream of any FemDom Reality lover. A real fucking dream. The videos are simply truly above any pornography standards. The actors and director deserve fucking oscars.

These all sites are not in niches so to say, surfers are not robots You know. They dont care if its a "reality" website or a "femdom" or a "teen" website. They want EXCITMENT and AROUSAL and they dont give a fuck how You brand it. Sex is not about niches or the quality of Your digital camera, sex is about sex , beauty, fucking, humiliation even and much more.

And that's exactly what we get them.

And as a program for webmasters here are our features (will be enabled for 100% on next Wensday):

1. Rock solid processing (our own dutch registered adult merchant account, plus Ibill, plus 2000Charge for EuroDebit options and asian cards in the feature).

2. 50/50 Partnership program or 35$ per Signup. On a Per-Signup mode WE DO NOT SHAVE, Guaranteed. And of course You get credited for trial memberships.

On a partnership mode You get credited for console sales and member area sales as well.

You can switch between modes easily.

3. All the stats You've been dreaming about!

4. All the promo materials You can think about (pics, banners, FHGs, everything).

5. Ticket Communication module (!!!). Your communication is very important for us. With our professional Ticket system our webmasters are always responded.

6. 2 Free hosts for webmasters (for priviledged and non priviledged use. very professional, You can do what You want as long as You promote us).

7. Exit traffic: All Yours (on PerSignup mode partially).

8. Direct Link: Unbeleivable stuff. You can send traffic to www.paysite.com without any "ref" fields! Think how many people out there hate to pay to www.paysite.com/webmaster-script=WebmasterID becase they KNOW You will get payed for their purchase. Not with us if You want it.

9. SignupTrace: Even more unbeleivalble stuff. You get a special code similar to a counter code and You place it on Your free sites. Then You can trace each of Your signups to the exact website You got the sale from!!! So You know which of Your traffic sources actually send You signups!

10. Payouts convinience. We arrange a FREE ATM card for You!
And FREE payouts to that card. Unbeleivable right?

So ?
Weclome on board!

http://www.etu-cash.com
Expect The Unexpected!

sid375 · 07-16-2004, 05:47 AM

next week on bizness today , "how to go bankrupt really quick"

UltraSonic · 07-16-2004, 05:55 AM

Wow, that ravegloryhole site looks great, i think this is a seller.

Gunni · 07-16-2004, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
next week on bizness today , "how to go bankrupt really quick"

I think RedEye has been in this biz long enough to know what he'd doing

sid375 · 07-16-2004, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni
I think RedEye has been in this biz long enough to know what he'd doing

appearantly not long enough

otherwise he wouldn't have made these dumb mistakes :

- flash intro WITHOUT skip option
- no nice catchy name for your program
- hyphen in domain
- list goes on and on

his content could be great ! maybe his sites convert really well !

but I doubt many people will look further after seeing his site ..

RED&P RedEye · 07-16-2004, 06:54 AM

Hey Sid, feel free to send me Your ideas about impoving our websites at: [email protected]

Btw flash intro HAS skip option (at least had one last time I checked)...

Mike-BP · 07-16-2004, 07:04 AM

how many static hosted galleries?

zdwebber · 07-16-2004, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
- no nice catchy name for your program

Well, if I get excellent conversions at a sponsor named jd8abhdjka9a76ftgd.com , there would be nothing stopping me from promoting them.
You dont need a catchy name.
I doubt any more than a few webmasters care about the name. If your sites convert and retain, then who cares about the name.

Maybe newbies might be attracted to programs with catchy names, but I dont think Redman is aiming for that.

Mike-BP · 07-16-2004, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UltraSonic
Wow, that ravegloryhole site looks great, i think this is a seller.

I wonder if he owns the music licenses for the trailers...probably not cause the music is pretty popular

Bad move if it's stolen music

Manowar · 07-16-2004, 07:27 AM

RED&P RedEye
I am probably spamming

Manowar · 07-16-2004, 07:40 AM

The administrator has specified that you can only edit messages for 5 minutes after you have posted. This limit has expired, so you must contact the administrator to make alterations on your message.

sorry guys, didnt know it was board advertised and everything - looks good.

Mike-BP · 07-16-2004, 08:02 AM

LOL, what happened

http://www.ravegloryhole.com/

sid375 · 07-16-2004, 08:06 AM

same over here

http://www.etu-cash.com/

RED&P RedEye · 07-16-2004, 08:09 AM

No worries. All fine now.

But someone's gonna get fired in a russian way from the company.
:D

Eric · 07-16-2004, 08:46 AM

Looks great! Skip Intro is there guys. I think these sites are some sellers. Different look and different ideas. Nice to see a change.

polish_aristocrat · 07-16-2004, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
appearantly not long enough otherwise he wouldn't have made these dumb mistakes :

1. flash intro WITHOUT skip option
2. no nice catchy name for your program
3. hyphen in domain

re 1. wrong
re 2. who cares?
re 3. without hyphen works as well

sid375 · 07-16-2004, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
Looks great! Skip Intro is there guys. I think these sites are some sellers. Different look and different ideas. Nice to see a change.

too small fonts !!!

impossible to see on my 800* 600 , and yes I know I should be buying a new one , but I am too attached to this one

FUCKuPAYme · 07-16-2004, 08:58 AM

Flash sites never convert well for me I don't know why.

the sites look Nice

austinth · 07-16-2004, 09:02 AM

Great stuff and good looking sites. Do you have movie galleries as well in the content section?

RED&P RedEye · 07-16-2004, 09:11 AM

Movie galleries - of course.
Free movies as well. In fact for one of the sites (www.creaminteen.com) we only have movies (pics just wont work well enough).

austinth · 07-16-2004, 09:16 AM

sounds good!

RED&P RedEye · 07-16-2004, 12:49 PM

FYI , we had a few bugs (like damn NS problem, clicks were not counting), we have just fixed them all so You can send in traffic straight away.

Sorry for that.

Theo · 07-16-2004, 10:36 PM

good work Redeye

bawdy · 07-17-2004, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RED&P RedEye
8. Direct Link: Unbeleivable stuff. You can send traffic to www.paysite.com without any "ref" fields! Think how many people out there hate to pay to www.paysite.com/webmaster-script=WebmasterID becase they KNOW You will get payed for their purchase. Not with us if You want it.

how are you tracking this? by page referer? what percentage of sales will be lost by affiliates when the clients browser don't pass page referer information? Many firewalls and privacy software strip the page referrer information from the headers.

RED&P RedEye · 07-17-2004, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bawdy
how are you tracking this? by page referer? what percentage of sales will be lost by affiliates when the clients browser don't pass page referer information? Many firewalls and privacy software strip the page referrer information from the headers.

It's absolutely true.
The percentage of lost sales can go up to 10% this way. However if You promote it right You can truly get 25% more sales in the end. Because You wont imagine how many people hate paying through referrers.

Just as an example You can make a website which PRETENDS to be Your honest websites review and market it as non-profitable.

So it's a bit like roulette.
We offer it as an extra tech option which if played right can get amazing results. Of course if You do it on a TGP gallery for example the results may be quite on the contrary. :D

However You got to remember that in standard way of sending traffic through "ref" ID You will still always loose a few sales as a webmaster because a lot of buyers will: Remove any ID from the URL string just because they are greedy bastards or interested to see the root URL .

If You do it through Cookies than You will loose sales from purchasers who dont accept cookies and if Your surfer did not purchase anything but later on went to the same paysite from a different webmaster but has Your cookie on it , You will get the sale and that other webmaster wont which theoretically is wrong of course.

You cant be TOO exact in e-commerce.
There are too many operating systems, browsers and other stuff out there.

RED&P RedEye · 07-17-2004, 03:27 AM

By the way, I dont get it why webmasters mostly are interested in DirectLink.

I myself like much more SignupTrace , which indeed is an excellent feature.

When I was a webmaster myself back in 1999 I had a few toplists , 12 or 15 free sites and a shit load of galleries.
I could get lets say 20-30 signups a day and it was a huge pain in ass trying to understand where these signups actually came from.

With SignupTrace You actually have a bit of pain in ass in placing the code everywhere but than it's a miracle - You see EXACTLY where from Your traffic sources and websites You trade with each sale came from.

Lets say You get 20 signups and You got 200 websites You trade traffic with. What if 15 signups come only from 10 of those 200 websites ? Why waiste time on 190 which are left?

hentaivip · 07-17-2004, 03:32 AM

Cool

Nice site

Kicker · 07-17-2004, 03:57 AM

Good work

mcmc · 07-17-2004, 04:07 AM

i like this stuff. This business needs innovation / new ways to approach the customer.

however i had to restart my browser when surfing the gloryhole site

. IEX came up with an unexpected error.

RED&P RedEye · 07-17-2004, 05:57 AM

Can You please describe the error?
And what system and browser and it's settings are You on?

mcmc · 07-17-2004, 06:31 AM

dunno what happend. IEX just wanted to close.

Im using WinXP, 3Ghz, Radeon 9800 pro, 1024 Gb RAM, 120 Gb HD ...

gonna test again...

mcmc · 07-17-2004, 06:32 AM

no probs this time

no idea what happend before. Maybe a problem on my side

RED&P RedEye · 07-17-2004, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcmc
no probs this time

no idea what happend before. Maybe a problem on my side

Lets hope so.
:D

Our "flash" idea is very simple and didnt change for years.

Lets say out of 100 surfers 10 will not be able to buy because they got no flash or buggy flash or whatever. The other 90 on the other hand will be motivated to buy much more because the site looks so much better...so on average the conversion rate is MUCH higher.

tranza · 01-21-2008, 03:36 PM

Sorry for this bump, but I'm trying to contact some support from ETU-Cash without much luck.

Does anybody still promote them? I'd love to hear some feedback..

Also, how does this direct link thing works?? (see quote below).

Quote:

Originally Posted by RED&P RedEye

8. Direct Link: Unbeleivable stuff. You can send traffic to www.paysite.com without any "ref" fields! Think how many people out there hate to pay to www.paysite.com/webmaster-script=WebmasterID becase they KNOW You will get payed for their purchase. Not with us if You want it.

Thanks for the help guys!!

07-16-2004, 05:03 AM	#1
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	ETU-CASH.COM Expect The Unexpected! New excellent Sponsor! Hi! I am RedEye, from RED & Partners Group, RED & Partners B.V. Amsterdam, The Netherlands. I am happy to announce a new partnership/sponsorship program for You! ETU-CASH.COM Expect The Unexpected. It took our team half a year to develop this stuff. Unlike many other programs out there we dont have 50 websites with the same stuff everyone else has. Nor we have weird shit no one will ever buy. What we did was EXTREMELY difficult and is based on our sole philosophy: make only good products. George Lukas once said, that You cant really make a new genre in a movie, because there are none and all of them have been made already. You just cant make it because it simply doesnt exist. The problem in online porn is quite similar and is very simple , as You know Your average normal porn just doesnt sell. Well it does, and it does pretty well , but the competition is so huge that YOUR sale is a fucking luck. So some people make weird porn trying to make a new niche and hope to get some sales, but guess what? Usually they never do. BECAUSE YOU CANT MAKE A NEW GENRE. Because for the last few thousands of years there have been only a few ways to fuck ! :D Thus there are only a few ways to show it . Of course You can make a paysite with fucking elephants or Sex on Moon. But beleive it or not, it just wont sell. So what can You do? What You can do is do what was always done, just do it better. And that's what we did in a way. We found out that there are quite a few niches out there very very popular among surfers , go and read any free porn stories website, but guess what, there are almost no paysites in those niches. Just because of a very simple reason - it's very difficult to make such porn. So with a huge effort we have created the first 3 paysites: 1. CreamInTeen.com Beautifull shy teens indeed get their young pussies full of sperm. It's excellent. Dont ask about models. It was not easy, that's all I can say. 2. RaveGloryHole.com Imagine a rave club with a glory hole in a WC and girls who just HAVE to suck strangers to get out! (We had to rent a fucking club and build a fucking WC). 3. 2CrazyBitches.com It's a dream of any FemDom Reality lover. A real fucking dream. The videos are simply truly above any pornography standards. The actors and director deserve fucking oscars. These all sites are not in niches so to say, surfers are not robots You know. They dont care if its a "reality" website or a "femdom" or a "teen" website. They want EXCITMENT and AROUSAL and they dont give a fuck how You brand it. Sex is not about niches or the quality of Your digital camera, sex is about sex , beauty, fucking, humiliation even and much more. And that's exactly what we get them. And as a program for webmasters here are our features (will be enabled for 100% on next Wensday): 1. Rock solid processing (our own dutch registered adult merchant account, plus Ibill, plus 2000Charge for EuroDebit options and asian cards in the feature). 2. 50/50 Partnership program or 35$ per Signup. On a Per-Signup mode WE DO NOT SHAVE, Guaranteed. And of course You get credited for trial memberships. On a partnership mode You get credited for console sales and member area sales as well. You can switch between modes easily. 3. All the stats You've been dreaming about! 4. All the promo materials You can think about (pics, banners, FHGs, everything). 5. Ticket Communication module (!!!). Your communication is very important for us. With our professional Ticket system our webmasters are always responded. 6. 2 Free hosts for webmasters (for priviledged and non priviledged use. very professional, You can do what You want as long as You promote us). 7. Exit traffic: All Yours (on PerSignup mode partially). 8. Direct Link: Unbeleivable stuff. You can send traffic to www.paysite.com without any "ref" fields! Think how many people out there hate to pay to www.paysite.com/webmaster-script=WebmasterID becase they KNOW You will get payed for their purchase. Not with us if You want it. 9. SignupTrace: Even more unbeleivalble stuff. You get a special code similar to a counter code and You place it on Your free sites. Then You can trace each of Your signups to the exact website You got the sale from!!! So You know which of Your traffic sources actually send You signups! 10. Payouts convinience. We arrange a FREE ATM card for You! And FREE payouts to that card. Unbeleivable right? So ? Weclome on board! http://www.etu-cash.com Expect The Unexpected! __________________ www.re-partners.biz Last edited by RED&P RedEye; 07-16-2004 at 05:08 AM..

07-16-2004, 05:55 AM	#3
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07-16-2004, 06:54 AM	#6
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	Hey Sid, feel free to send me Your ideas about impoving our websites at: [email protected] Btw flash intro HAS skip option (at least had one last time I checked)... __________________ www.re-partners.biz

07-16-2004, 07:04 AM	#7
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07-16-2004, 08:02 AM	#12
Mike-BP Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,270	LOL, what happened http://www.ravegloryhole.com/ __________________ Thanks to: ISPrime.com - best hosting company without downtime

07-16-2004, 05:47 AM	#2
sid375 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,068	next week on bizness today , "how to go bankrupt really quick"

07-16-2004, 07:27 AM	#10
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	RED&P RedEye I am probably spamming

07-16-2004, 07:40 AM	#11
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	The administrator has specified that you can only edit messages for 5 minutes after you have posted. This limit has expired, so you must contact the administrator to make alterations on your message. sorry guys, didnt know it was board advertised and everything - looks good.

07-16-2004, 08:06 AM	#13
sid375 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,068	same over here http://www.etu-cash.com/

07-16-2004, 08:09 AM	#14
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	No worries. All fine now. But someone's gonna get fired in a russian way from the company. :D __________________ www.re-partners.biz

07-16-2004, 08:46 AM	#15
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Looks great! Skip Intro is there guys. I think these sites are some sellers. Different look and different ideas. Nice to see a change. __________________ No One

07-16-2004, 08:58 AM	#18
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07-16-2004, 09:11 AM	#20
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	Movie galleries - of course. Free movies as well. In fact for one of the sites (www.creaminteen.com) we only have movies (pics just wont work well enough). __________________ www.re-partners.biz

07-16-2004, 09:16 AM	#21
austinth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fantasy Island Posts: 1,770	sounds good! __________________ Get A $25 Circuit City GIFT Card - *FREE*!

07-16-2004, 12:49 PM	#22
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	FYI , we had a few bugs (like damn NS problem, clicks were not counting), we have just fixed them all so You can send in traffic straight away. Sorry for that. __________________ www.re-partners.biz

07-16-2004, 10:36 PM	#23
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good work Redeye

07-17-2004, 03:27 AM	#26
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	By the way, I dont get it why webmasters mostly are interested in DirectLink. I myself like much more SignupTrace , which indeed is an excellent feature. When I was a webmaster myself back in 1999 I had a few toplists , 12 or 15 free sites and a shit load of galleries. I could get lets say 20-30 signups a day and it was a huge pain in ass trying to understand where these signups actually came from. With SignupTrace You actually have a bit of pain in ass in placing the code everywhere but than it's a miracle - You see EXACTLY where from Your traffic sources and websites You trade with each sale came from. Lets say You get 20 signups and You got 200 websites You trade traffic with. What if 15 signups come only from 10 of those 200 websites ? Why waiste time on 190 which are left? __________________ www.re-partners.biz

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07-17-2004, 04:07 AM	#29
mcmc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,705	i like this stuff. This business needs innovation / new ways to approach the customer. however i had to restart my browser when surfing the gloryhole site . IEX came up with an unexpected error. __________________ http://www.AdultDVDdb.com Conversion: 1:149 (so far this year with more than 650 000 unique hits) @ http://www.pimproll.com

07-17-2004, 05:57 AM	#30
RED&P RedEye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	Can You please describe the error? And what system and browser and it's settings are You on? __________________ www.re-partners.biz

07-17-2004, 06:31 AM	#31
mcmc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,705	dunno what happend. IEX just wanted to close. Im using WinXP, 3Ghz, Radeon 9800 pro, 1024 Gb RAM, 120 Gb HD ... gonna test again... __________________ http://www.AdultDVDdb.com Conversion: 1:149 (so far this year with more than 650 000 unique hits) @ http://www.pimproll.com

07-17-2004, 06:32 AM	#32
mcmc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,705	no probs this time no idea what happend before. Maybe a problem on my side __________________ http://www.AdultDVDdb.com Conversion: 1:149 (so far this year with more than 650 000 unique hits) @ http://www.pimproll.com