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pussyluver · 07-19-2004, 09:13 AM

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scoreman · 07-19-2004, 09:15 AM

If you live outside the USA but make your living doing adult internet, these proposed 2257 changes also affect you. One only has to look at the way the Feds approached online gaming to see how. First the Feds could always seek to indict those expats who just move their business elsewhere. An actual indictment might not be the method, it may be something as simple as putting your name on a detainment list for INS, making reentry to the USA difficult.

Secondly the Feds could chase the money and not the website. IBILL/CCBILL/PAYCOM/JETTIS are all USA based companies. The Feds could squeeze down on them so hard that the billers will not accept traffic from secondary producers unless 2257 ids are in order. I can already see the Feds making inquiries to the billers with key words like "RICO and CONSPIRACY and MONEY LAUNDERING and PATRIOT ACT" to shrivel the nut sack of the biller's legal dept. If passed as proposed, these 2257 changes will affect non USA based webmasters, you can bet on it.

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 09:18 AM

Hosted galleries & plug ins will become more popular. Site owners will also need to learn to rely less on affiliates

2257 Does not apply to non explicit content (as asked above)

Internet models can kiss their personal privacy & safety goodbye

It's simply not possible to apply today's rules to content shot back as far as 1990.

and oh yeah..... Viva la Canada

BRISK · 07-19-2004, 09:20 AM

The future is looking more like

non-USA hosting

non-USA processing

non-USA content

pussyluver · 07-19-2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
If you live outside the USA but make your living doing adult internet, these proposed 2257 changes also affect you. One only has to look at the way the Feds approached online gaming to see how. First the Feds could always seek to indict those expats who just move their business elsewhere. An actual indictment might not be the method, it may be something as simple as putting your name on a detainment list for INS, making reentry to the USA difficult.

Secondly the Feds could chase the money and not the website. IBILL/CCBILL/PAYCOM/JETTIS are all USA based companies. The Feds could squeeze down on them so hard that the billers will not accept traffic from secondary producers unless 2257 ids are in order. I can already see the Feds making inquiries to the billers with key words like "RICCO and CONSPIRACY and MONEY LAUNDERING and PATRIOT ACT" to shrivel the nut sack of the biller's legal dept. If passed as proposed, these 2257 changes will affect non USA based webmasters, you can bet on it.

If Bush wins, we're in for some real hell! First term was the warm-up. Face it, Channey isn't gonna run for president in 2008. So it will be balls out to accomplish all of his pet projects.

There will be a down side to Kerry too, we just don't know what it is for sure yet.

pussyluver · 07-19-2004, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
The future is looking more like

non-USA hosting

non-USA processing

non-USA content

Clearly bad for the US economy!!!

Maybe P1mpdog could give the Pres a call??

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
The future is looking more like

non-USA hosting

non-USA processing

non-USA content

None of that will save you if you are a US resident

Non-US incorporation might help though

BRISK · 07-19-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
None of that will save you if you are a US resident

Non-US incorporation might help though

not everyone in the porn industry is a USA resident or a USA citizen

Elli · 07-19-2004, 09:31 AM

To add to the non-American hosting/billing/whatever move, what about people geo-targeting American traffic to softcore galleries only? Would it be possible or even make sense? That way the feds working in America (of course) would not be as likely to see your harder tgp galleries or whatever the heck you post.

non? I could be way off base here. I don't know much about targeting.

EviLGuY · 07-19-2004, 10:42 AM

Bad laws need to be broken. Seriously.. I can't see anyone who even works at it being in full compliance.

FightThisPatent · 07-19-2004, 10:43 AM

2257 & The Markham Order. Confused? Worried? Not sure what to do? We're gonna speak with Brandon from fightthepatent.com and 2257lookup.com AND Hammer from The Porn Professors is gonna stop by.

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sumphatpimp · 07-19-2004, 11:57 AM

their isn't going to be any "low hanging fruit" for Acacia to pluck.
All the record keeping will force the little guy out.
Acacia is out of biz and out of luck on this one.

all that will be left is a couple of the biggies who can pay for the extra over head.

porn is going to get very expensive.

07-19-2004, 09:15 AM	#52
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	If you live outside the USA but make your living doing adult internet, these proposed 2257 changes also affect you. One only has to look at the way the Feds approached online gaming to see how. First the Feds could always seek to indict those expats who just move their business elsewhere. An actual indictment might not be the method, it may be something as simple as putting your name on a detainment list for INS, making reentry to the USA difficult. Secondly the Feds could chase the money and not the website. IBILL/CCBILL/PAYCOM/JETTIS are all USA based companies. The Feds could squeeze down on them so hard that the billers will not accept traffic from secondary producers unless 2257 ids are in order. I can already see the Feds making inquiries to the billers with key words like "RICO and CONSPIRACY and MONEY LAUNDERING and PATRIOT ACT" to shrivel the nut sack of the biller's legal dept. If passed as proposed, these 2257 changes will affect non USA based webmasters, you can bet on it. __________________ Last edited by scoreman; 07-19-2004 at 09:20 AM..

07-19-2004, 09:20 AM	#54
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The future is looking more like non-USA hosting non-USA processing non-USA content __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

07-19-2004, 09:31 AM	#59
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	To add to the non-American hosting/billing/whatever move, what about people geo-targeting American traffic to softcore galleries only? Would it be possible or even make sense? That way the feds working in America (of course) would not be as likely to see your harder tgp galleries or whatever the heck you post. non? I could be way off base here. I don't know much about targeting. __________________ email: [email protected]

07-19-2004, 10:43 AM	#61
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	2257 & The Markham Order. Confused? Worried? Not sure what to do? We're gonna speak with Brandon from fightthepatent.com and 2257lookup.com AND Hammer from The Porn Professors is gonna stop by. Check out the video feed today at 3PM EST/2PM CST/12PM PST/8PM GMT and join in the chat at http://www.theronstewartshow.com/live/ynot.php OR, you can access just the chat at irc.theadultwebmaster.com channel-#ynotradio __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

07-19-2004, 09:13 AM	#51
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	50 Porn file clerks

07-19-2004, 09:18 AM	#53
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Hosted galleries & plug ins will become more popular. Site owners will also need to learn to rely less on affiliates 2257 Does not apply to non explicit content (as asked above) Internet models can kiss their personal privacy & safety goodbye It's simply not possible to apply today's rules to content shot back as far as 1990. and oh yeah..... Viva la Canada

07-19-2004, 10:42 AM	#60
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Bad laws need to be broken. Seriously.. I can't see anyone who even works at it being in full compliance.

07-19-2004, 11:57 AM	#62
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	their isn't going to be any "low hanging fruit" for Acacia to pluck. All the record keeping will force the little guy out. Acacia is out of biz and out of luck on this one. all that will be left is a couple of the biggies who can pay for the extra over head. porn is going to get very expensive.