Is there a double standard in the industry? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ice · 07-14-2004, 08:25 PM

Why does it seem ok for a male webmaster or affiliate rep to get drunk, show skin, suck boobs, fuck anything that shows interest, etc..... and he is considered cool or "the man" but if a female webmaster or affiliate rep does the same she is considered a skank?

Does that change your perception of the company if it is a male or female rep you deal with? Not in my eyes... how can a male affiliate rep that gets drunk and fucks anything help me convert better than a female that doesn't?

The shows are about having some fun and doing some business. We all spend a lot of time behind a damn screen and need a release.

We all can get out of control.... I know I did in Vegas during the Hawg's poker party.... thanks to Lens and Eric bringing me Cognac... I was trashed and make no excuse to anyone, and apologized to those involved for my condition.

I have read too many times where a male has gotten out of control and he is considered cool....but if it was a female, she is considered a skank. I know both men and women in this industry that drink and don't drink at all, but what they do at a convention doesn't change what I think about them, I treat them for who they are and what they can do to make me more money.

We all have our moments. If they did something I considered unacceptable, I would take it up with them before deciding not to deal/talk/do business with them. The boards are a great place but not for one on one problems IMO.

I am not pointing any fingers but just a general perception from the threads I have read.

IMO men are bigger sluts than women cause they feel the need to feed the ego and be accepted by their peers.

Me ..... I don't care what people think cause I can look in the mirror and be happy with what I see.

baddog · 07-14-2004, 08:26 PM

it is good to be king

AndrewKanuck · 07-14-2004, 08:27 PM

Isn't that just a double standard period, not only this industry...

Pornkings · 07-14-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
it is good to be king

thats right so get with the program

Jace · 07-14-2004, 08:28 PM

all are equal in my book....we all are skanks! LOL

TaDoW · 07-14-2004, 08:33 PM

are you trying to drag us back to high school?

Pornkings · 07-14-2004, 08:34 PM

Show us your tits

TaDoW · 07-14-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
Show us your tits

lol!

Ice · 07-14-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
Show us your tits

How much money ya got?

TDF · 07-14-2004, 08:42 PM

Pornkings · 07-14-2004, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by iceicebaby
How much money ya got?

Damn I got called out

I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a Tittie Peak today

Lace · 07-14-2004, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

a little drinky drinky...

cheers!

baddog · 07-14-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
thats right so get with the program

I am not sure I can even count the number of times I have tried to set up something with you . . . primarily because I don't remember all of them . . . but it has been a few.

Pornkings · 07-14-2004, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
I am not sure I can even count the number of times I have tried to set up something with you . . . primarily because I don't remember all of them . . . but it has been a few.

Yea sorry we have been working on so many projects lately
alot falls between the cracks

Just keep bugging me

goodgirl · 07-14-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
Damn I got called out

I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a Tittie Peak today

Sounds like a scam to me

Cory W · 07-14-2004, 08:53 PM

There will always be people around to critisize people, male or female, for candid behavior.

I personally do not care. Mellowman said it best, stay sober / decent while in the earlier hours of the night and get business done; when late night rolls around and you are with people you know well or get a good vibe from, it can be ok.

I got overly drunk once at a show, I assure you my critics left me know slack for being a male.

FlyingIguana · 07-14-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by egonetworks
Isn't that just a double standard period, not only this industry...

bingo

ok close this thread, nothing more to see here

fatal attraction · 07-14-2004, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by WEGCashCory

I got overly drunk once at a show, I assure you my critics left me know slack for being a male.

You Cory??? No way, I can't believe it! hahaha!!!

Cory W · 07-14-2004, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by fatal attraction
You Cory??? No way, I can't believe it! hahaha!!!

If I am ever drunk, rest assured, MFM had something to do with it.

He even stole my tacos the night of the Nat Net party afterhours when I had a few drinks in me. And Lori, I think you had something to do with that!

SureFire · 07-14-2004, 09:09 PM

Double standard? No. Personally I could care less what sex is making a fool of themselves and if I don't know him/her, I form an opinion.

A convention is different from parting with friends; strangers are involved and you just might want their business. And, if you act like a slut (male/female) that pretty business card is going nowhere unless it is for cheap content.

jennym · 07-14-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by SureFire
And, if you act like a slut.....

Isn't that what this business is built on? Sluts?

And, for the record, I do not mean that in a derogatory manner at all!

EZRhino · 07-14-2004, 09:25 PM

I hate the idea that there is a double standard in this business but I'm sure there is. I never thought different of female webmasters when they get crazy. Its all in good fun

mardigras · 07-14-2004, 09:33 PM

To change the levity of the thread for a sec I don't care who my account rep is as long as they're there when I need them.

Groove · 07-14-2004, 09:33 PM

Yes there is a double standard. But it is not unique to this industry.

Kassidy · 07-14-2004, 09:34 PM

I think unprofessional behaviour is innappropriate in that circumstance regardless of the person's sex. Who wants to do business with some yahoo who's a drunk, coked up loser making an ass of him/herself? Having a few drinks and a little fun is one thing but just because we work in Adult Entertainment doesn't mean we aren't business professionals.

Joesho · 07-14-2004, 09:38 PM

I think it should be up to individuals to decide for themselves....

I know call me crazy

Ice · 07-14-2004, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Kassidy
I think unprofessional behaviour is innappropriate in that circumstance regardless of the person's sex. Who wants to do business with some yahoo who's a drunk, coked up loser making an ass of him/herself? Having a few drinks and a little fun is one thing but just because we work in Adult Entertainment doesn't mean we aren't business professionals.

My point exactly.... but there are many pics of men in this industry that are considered "cool"... even with their exploites during conventions that would put females in the tramp catagory

SureFire · 07-14-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Isn't that what this business is built on? Sluts?

And, for the record, I do not mean that in a derogatory manner at all!

Nope... A slut does it for free. A professional knows how to make money in this business.

HS-Trixxxia · 07-14-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by iceicebaby
My point exactly.... but there are many pics of men in this industry that are considered "cool"... even with their exploites during conventions that would put females in the tramp catagory

Considered cool by whom? In this place & business, everyone's an asslicker - if they can get something from you, they'll defend you, pretend to like you, and make you out to be the top-notch person. When something is leaked out about you - they drop you like a hot potato & then 'they always knew there was something about you that wasn't kosher'.

This is 7th grade revisited - been there done that. Everyone wants to be cool & accepted and they follow the crowd.

jennym · 07-14-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by SureFire
Nope... A slut does it for free. A professional knows how to make money in this business.

Well, for the sake of argument, I will use Mary as my example.

Would I hire her as a nanny for my kids....hell no! Do people that WORK with her say that she is good at what she does? YES! That's the bottom line isn't it? I mean, do you really know what your stock broker does in his/her private life? Or your childs teacher? Or your bank manager? Get my point?

Just because some people are OPEN about who they are at ADULT parties does not make them any less business savvy!

reynold · 07-14-2004, 10:10 PM

oh shit...this is some heavy and serious discussion goin on in here

Ciao...you won't see me here again

Ice · 07-14-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by reynold
oh shit...this is some heavy and serious discussion goin on in here

Ciao...you won't see me here again

cool1g · 07-14-2004, 10:19 PM

while i don't remember specific names, i know that those who went to the webmaster event in Santa Monica and the last Internext got called out for doing stupid stuff...and they were all males....

jayeff · 07-14-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Trixxxia
This is 7th grade revisited - been there done that. Everyone wants to be cool & accepted and they follow the crowd.

Someone said "we can all get out of control..."

Maybe so. And if you do so on your own time and in your personal space, no-one need be any the wiser. But male or female, sponsor or affiliate, whatever: getting out of control in a business-related situation is unprofessional.

I would seriously doubt the apparent "business savvy" of anyone who doesn't realize that.

SureFire · 07-14-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Well, for the sake of argument, I will use Mary as my example.

Would I hire her as a nanny for my kids....hell no! Do people that WORK with her say that she is good at what she does? YES! That's the bottom line isn't it? I mean, do you really know what your stock broker does in his/her private life? Or your childs teacher? Or your bank manager? Get my point?

Just because some people are OPEN about who they are at ADULT parties does not make them any less business savvy!

I was talking about conventions and not parties. At a convention, one should represent themselve as a professional even at a sponsor party. JMO

makefuckingmoney · 07-15-2004, 01:20 AM

if you dont send me traffic i would just as soon would poo on you

so im unprofessional and i have to poop.

its great to be your own boss!

embrace it!

kush · 07-15-2004, 01:45 AM

Isn't the only problem with female reps acting like drunk drama queens?

I don't recall male reps showing this kind of behavoir.

07-14-2004, 08:25 PM	#1
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Is there a double standard in the industry? Why does it seem ok for a male webmaster or affiliate rep to get drunk, show skin, suck boobs, fuck anything that shows interest, etc..... and he is considered cool or "the man" but if a female webmaster or affiliate rep does the same she is considered a skank? Does that change your perception of the company if it is a male or female rep you deal with? Not in my eyes... how can a male affiliate rep that gets drunk and fucks anything help me convert better than a female that doesn't? The shows are about having some fun and doing some business. We all spend a lot of time behind a damn screen and need a release. We all can get out of control.... I know I did in Vegas during the Hawg's poker party.... thanks to Lens and Eric bringing me Cognac... I was trashed and make no excuse to anyone, and apologized to those involved for my condition. I have read too many times where a male has gotten out of control and he is considered cool....but if it was a female, she is considered a skank. I know both men and women in this industry that drink and don't drink at all, but what they do at a convention doesn't change what I think about them, I treat them for who they are and what they can do to make me more money. We all have our moments. If they did something I considered unacceptable, I would take it up with them before deciding not to deal/talk/do business with them. The boards are a great place but not for one on one problems IMO. I am not pointing any fingers but just a general perception from the threads I have read. IMO men are bigger sluts than women cause they feel the need to feed the ego and be accepted by their peers. Me ..... I don't care what people think cause I can look in the mirror and be happy with what I see. __________________ icq 1904905

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SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	Double standard? No. Personally I could care less what sex is making a fool of themselves and if I don't know him/her, I form an opinion. A convention is different from parting with friends; strangers are involved and you just might want their business. And, if you act like a slut (male/female) that pretty business card is going nowhere unless it is for cheap content.

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EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	I hate the idea that there is a double standard in this business but I'm sure there is. I never thought different of female webmasters when they get crazy. Its all in good fun

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Kassidy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouverish... ICQ# 111432084 Posts: 1,219	I think unprofessional behaviour is innappropriate in that circumstance regardless of the person's sex. Who wants to do business with some yahoo who's a drunk, coked up loser making an ass of him/herself? Having a few drinks and a little fun is one thing but just because we work in Adult Entertainment doesn't mean we aren't business professionals. __________________ The ORIGINAL micro niche program- All Original and exclusive content. Paying 60% recurring through CCBill, FHG, free content & gallery templates Well researched niches with on-target content. SUBSTANCE SELLS!

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kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Isn't the only problem with female reps acting like drunk drama queens? I don't recall male reps showing this kind of behavoir.