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shermo 07-14-2004 05:40 PM

What does the brain need to function? Glucose.

What do muscles need in order to stay strong and healthy? Glucose.

What is in a carb? Glucose.

If people are losing weight, they need to look no further than their muscles. Muscles weigh more than fat, and once those atrophe, the pounds just fly off!

Maybe carbs do put weight on, but fatty foods cause heart attacks....Don't they Mr. Atkins! He sure didn't have a healthy heart, but at least he was a twig. :1orglaugh

Jaden 07-14-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
but that's a problem with the people not the diet.

Atkins pushes a lifestyle change...there are numerous books and cookbooks to take you through all steps clear to the life time maintenance plan.

Exactly :) No where have I read or heard about how you are supposed to stuff yourself silly ONLY on fatty cheeseburgers, or steak or bacon, or that it is a quick fix for anything. In fact just the opposite is true, but people will only see and get from it what they want to.

Ironhorse 07-14-2004 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx
whats wrong with just eating smaller portions and a healthier selection of foods? along with a bit of exercise???

besides have you ever been around a person on Atkins? they have the most horrid breath!!!

Your post is in conflict, your first line is exactly what Atkins is about, unfortunately most dieters think there is some magic cure out there, and all these haters probably have no idea what Atkins is all about: daily exercise, eat less, eat healthy, less sugar, less breads, it's not a magic diet it's just a healthier way to live.

CDSmith 07-14-2004 05:58 PM

Eat a balanced diet.
Include all food groups, not just some.
Variety of veggies
Whole grains
Fruit, fruit juice from concentrate
Lean meats
EXERCISE regularly

And to hell with atkins.


End of story.

4Pics 07-14-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Eat a balanced diet.
Include all food groups, not just some.
Variety of veggies
Whole grains
Fruit, fruit juice from concentrate
Lean meats
EXERCISE regularly

And to hell with atkins.


End of story.

great plan, but most wont eat right or exercise.

boobmaster 07-14-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Eat a balanced diet.
Include all food groups, not just some.
Variety of veggies
Whole grains
Fruit, fruit juice from concentrate
Lean meats
EXERCISE regularly

And to hell with atkins.


End of story.

That about sums it up!

boobmaster 07-14-2004 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
great plan, but most wont eat right or exercise.
which is why most stay fat!

Ironhorse 07-14-2004 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
That about sums it up!
Well, despite that simple theory, US still has a major obesity problem.

CDSmith 07-14-2004 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
great plan, but most wont eat right or exercise.
Most don't want the lifestyle change that comes with the fatkins diet either. The plan I layed out is the one that has been touted by food experts and health care officials for centuries, it has stood the test of time since humans walked the Earth. Period.

All the atkins diet and other fads like it do is appeal to overweight people who are unwilling to exercise. These diets claim that diet, not exercise, is the answer, when that couldn't be farther from the truth.

The sad fact for overweight people is this: You need to exercise. Coupled with a SENSIBLE FUCKING DIET, it is the ultimate weight loss plan.

Aerobic exercise is great, but even a few long walks per week, maybe throw in the odd bike ride..... how about a walk to the store instead of driving?..... that's enough exercise to make a difference in one's life. It doesn't have to be a 5 mile run every morning.

Nanda 07-14-2004 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
If you exercise intensly and watch what you eat in terms of quantity you will lose weight and stay slim.
Exactly!:thumbsup

pure energy 07-14-2004 06:16 PM

hey if those fucked up people will learn then costemics and slimming industry will lose their business

boobmaster 07-14-2004 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
Well, despite that simple theory, US still has a major obesity problem.
That's because most people in the US are waiting for a magic potion.

pornJester 07-14-2004 06:25 PM

Fuck atkins, this is what you need - http://www.mypetfat.com

SureFire 07-14-2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Eat a balanced diet.
Include all food groups, not just some.
Variety of veggies
Whole grains
Fruit, fruit juice from concentrate
Lean meats
EXERCISE regularly

And to hell with atkins.


End of story.

And don't forget to drink lots of water!
:)

boobmaster 07-14-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by pornJester
Fuck atkins, this is what you need - http://www.mypetfat.com
It took me a few minutes to realize that they were serious. Hehe! There's a sucker born every minute!

Centurion 07-14-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
It's dying because most of it's followers are dying of heart attacks.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Oh yeah..another statistical fact!

Centurion 07-14-2004 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
in a survey of 500 people it is dying...


500 fucking people jeez

Better yet this "InsightExpress" (who the fuck are they? The next diet gurus?) said that the "fad" (Aikens did die centuries ago!) was dying based on their survey that showed last December 11% of Americans were on a low carb diet. Now only 10% are on a low carb diet. Man..that is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE plunge in dieters ain't it? :1orglaugh

Centurion 07-14-2004 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The induction phase of Aikens does work but people are suppose to move out of that stage after a short time and eat sensibly.

The main problem for all fad diets is that they don't teach you to change your lifestyle. Going ON a diet implies that you will one day go OFF the diet. Once you go OFF the diet, you usually go right back to eating the foods that got you fat in the first place. In order to succeed in the long haul, you need to CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE PERMANENTLY.

People on Aikens either (1) stay on induction for too long a period and ruin their health, or (2) go right back to their old eating habits and gain all the weight back they originally lost.

Earth to BOOBmaster!
1) It's ATKINS..not Aikens!
2) When you go off ANY diet, you'll put on weight! What an idiotic statment to make!
3)Atkins IS about lifestyle change.
4)And NO people don't stay on induction too long or go right back to old eating habits.

Talk to those who are honestly serious about Atkins and you will find people that have been on it for years, and are eating healthy foods as well as excercising.

It's fascinating to me to see so many Atkins "haters" on this board. Not sure why those who don't even have a clue about it are always trying to "poo poo" it.

Centurion 07-14-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
There are doctors debating this day in an day out who know far more than you and I ever will.

I've read the book, I have looked at the studies, have you?

His diet has been proven to lower bad cholesterol, lower blood sugar levels..the list goes on.

Yeah it is a fad right now...but it's also something that has been around for decades and is backed up by science.

Even the American Heart Assocation in their study from about one year ago found that the low carb diet was better for the heart over one year's period of time as opposed to the low fat diet.

Now COMBINE the two and you've got a winning combo! And it IS possible to do that.

Cory W 07-14-2004 07:00 PM

Most people that tell you atkins is bad can normally be found eating Pizza and Coke.

It always amazes me why the "anti-Atkins" crowd seems to take it so personal that other people do it.

Oh wait...No it doesn't. It is like anything, if it requires work, those that do not want to put out the work complain to those that do.

I either play full court basketball or lift weights at lunch followed by sauteed chicken + Vegitables + salad with Ranch.

For dinner, I surf for an hour. I then usually have a sandwich with bread.

Carbs are fine, but not a lot of them. I used to have this guy at my old office condemn me for not getting the rice with my lunch and he was always falling asleep around 3pm.

Here is an idea: do what is right for you and leave everyone alone. I think low carb is fine and I am likely in better shape and health than most people posting against the diet!

Everything is work!

Cory W 07-14-2004 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Even the American Heart Assocation in their study from about one year ago found that the low carb diet was better for the heart over one year's period of time as opposed to the low fat diet.

Now COMBINE the two and you've got a winning combo! And it IS possible to do that.

Oh wait man, wasn't the elemntary school food chain changed?

Damn, if only I could remember what portions were lowered?

Centurion 07-14-2004 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Actually, I have done research. The thing I hate most about the Atkins diet is that most of the weight you lose during induction is lean muscle mass, not fat. When you gain the weight back, you don't gain the muscle, so you end up being FATTER than you were before, in spite of the fact that you weigh the same. Here's an interesting read about Atkins:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/venuto1.htm

Hmm..must be reading upside down or something if you "learned" that "fact". During induction..your body burns CARBS..and thusly the reason the diet works. Once the carbs are burnt up, you then burn up FAT..not muscle!

Centurion 07-14-2004 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by WEGCashCory
Oh wait man, wasn't the elemntary school food chain changed?

Damn, if only I could remember what portions were lowered?

Yeah, the old/current food pyramid recommends like 11 servings a day of bread, pasta, etc. All that starchy stuff that tastes great, but sticks to ya like glue!

boobmaster 07-14-2004 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Once the carbs are burnt up, you then burn up FAT..not muscle!
Not true! Your body will burn both. Whenever you limit your calories, you will lose some muscle. Your body will only burn so much fat per day. Believe me, if there was a way around this, some bodybuilding guru would have made millions marketing it by now.

reynold 07-14-2004 07:14 PM

hahaha then fuckin fatkin does not have a business anymore!!! Good for the world!

Centurion 07-14-2004 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Not true! Your body will burn both. Whenever you limit your calories, you will lose some muscle. Your body will only burn so much fat per day. Believe me, if there was a way around this, some bodybuilding guru would have made millions marketing it by now.
I don't have to believe you. I am living that lifestyle and I have what both my general doc & endocrinologist are telling me.
KEEP IT UP! Blood sugar back to normal, weight is comming off and it was FAT, not muscle, blood pressure is 110/70 and cholesterol is back in the normal/good range. I've never been healthier in my life.

Yet you, who has never have been on this diet wants to tell me and my docs that we/us are wrong...interesting.

FlyingIguana 07-14-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I knew it would happen sooner or later. Another diet fad bites the dust. When will Americans learn that to lose weight and keep it off, you need to eat a low fat sensible diet and do cardio on a regular basis?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...carb_survey_dc

the best way to lose fat quickly other than drugs is with a high fat diet(also called carb loading). which is 5 days of under 30g of carbs and then 2 days of pigging out on carbs

Rankings 07-14-2004 08:59 PM

it will never die

tony286 07-14-2004 09:25 PM

People that call Atkins a fad first really dont know what they are talking about. Its been around for over twenty years. Also people that call it the eat bacon and cheeseburgers diet once dont know a thing. My father has had three heart attacks after the last one they gave him a bypass. At 60 he is was starting look like a old man he was doing that low fat bullshit and not getting betterfeeling tired all the time. I told my mother get him to go low carb it will add 20 yrs to his life. He has lost 40 lbs , he now exercises on a daily basis. He no longer needs BP meds. He says he has more energy now then he did 20 yrs ago and he looks 10 yrs younger and he eats more green veggies then he has in yrs.

FlyingIguana 07-14-2004 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
People that call Atkins a fad first really dont know what they are talking about. Its been around for over twenty years. Also people that call it the eat bacon and cheeseburgers diet once dont know a thing. My father has had three heart attacks after the last one they gave him a bypass. At 60 he is was starting look like a old man he was doing that low fat bullshit and not getting betterfeeling tired all the time. I told my mother get him to go low carb it will add 20 yrs to his life. He has lost 40 lbs , he now exercises on a daily basis. He no longer needs BP meds. He says he has more energy now then he did 20 yrs ago and he looks 10 yrs younger and he eats more green veggies then he has in yrs.
imo for long term a balanced diet is best. higher fat/protein *may* cause an increase chance of cancer.

the body needs carbs, just stay away from the shit

Lane 07-14-2004 10:37 PM

i tried going no-carb , it made me feel like shit

i rather feel a little hungry, by eating less than i need. i already lost 23 lbs this way.

SureFire 07-14-2004 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lane
i tried going no-carb , it made me feel like shit

i rather feel a little hungry, by eating less than i need. i already lost 23 lbs this way.

Of course you would feel like shit... everyone does. I think it called carbs withdrawal. The diet works.

btw, congrats for loosing 23 lbs :)

Corona 07-15-2004 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Whenever you limit your calories, you will lose some muscle. Your body will only burn so much fat per day.
Don't know what your agenda is but you are just plain wrong on your facts.

When a person goes on a crash diet they will lose weight by consuming muscle mass because there in not enough sugar to keep the body going.

When a person goes on a low carb diet the body converts stored body fat into sugar which supplies all the energy needed. Hence there is no reason to consume muscle mass.

So you are wrong.

Get the book and learn what you are talking about.

Corona 07-15-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by SureFire
Of course you would feel like shit... everyone does.
Only for about two days in most of the people that I know.

After that I have never felt better.

Centurion 07-15-2004 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by Corona
Don't know what your agenda is but you are just plain wrong on your facts.

When a person goes on a crash diet they will lose weight by consuming muscle mass because there in not enough sugar to keep the body going.

When a person goes on a low carb diet the body converts stored body fat into sugar which supplies all the energy needed. Hence there is no reason to consume muscle mass.

So you are wrong.

Get the book and learn what you are talking about.

:thumbsup

Sarah_Jayne 07-15-2004 07:20 AM

it is possible to limit excess sugar in processed food and limit the amount of bread, pasta, spuds you eat without going full into Atkins. I know that i react badly to all the sugar pumped into jared sauces, etc so I stay away from them. I also know that if I eat pasta (even though I love it) I will get a craving for more and I will also feel like passing out from lack of energy about 20 minutes later.

So, I tried Atkins a few times and I did lose weight but the second time I tried it I was also on metformin and i don't know if they conflicted but if I ate more than a handful of veggies in a day I would throw up. Well, that just isn't right. So, instead it is just about cooking things from scratch rather than using a sauce from a jar. Really, it is usually cheaper anyway, tastes better and takes little time and you know what goes into it. Doing Atkins in the past did help to break me from needing bread at every lunch time, etc but I didn't lke all the fat and puking when I ate veggies.

For some people the drastic method works but there is a middle ground. If you react badly to carbs and the TON of excess sugar in processed foods then just start limiting them and still enjoy the good carbs in veggies and fruit. Sure, it means my weight is coming of alot slower but hopefully it will stay off too.

chodadog 07-15-2004 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by GatorB
It's dying because most of it's followers are dying of heart attacks.
You are so full of shit. I notice people like you never back your shit up. I have seen documentaries about the atkins diet, where some of the biggest doubters actually got off their asses and did their own tests, experiements and researches, and were dumbfounded by the results. Some of these guys are now the biggest advocates of the atkins diet around!

Find me credible evidence that it causes heart attacks, and i'll eat your ass with a spoon.

The diet really does work. Eat until you're satisfied, and not to excess. You feel fuller faster with low carb meals, and that's the trick. Simple as that. You end up consuming less calories because you don't need to eat as much as if you were on a high carb diet.

Numbers are dropping because people want instant results. People don't follow diets correctly, or they expect too much too soon. This is to be expected. I bet the numbers are similar, or even worse for the majority of diets.

chodadog 07-15-2004 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
but I didn't lke all the fat and puking when I ate veggies.
The diet works even better if you cut out most of the fat. The fat basically slows things down. It just adds calories, and also makes you crave more food. That's something they seriously need to revise in the atkins diet, actually. Recent research has shown that the only reason the diet works is the fact that protein is an appetite suppressant. The fat just basically means you don't have to compromise on the taste. But if you're prepared to go without it, then even better.

tony286 07-15-2004 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
imo for long term a balanced diet is best. higher fat/protein *may* cause an increase chance of cancer.

the body needs carbs, just stay away from the shit

you didnt read what I wrote and you dont know what you are talking about.

Sarah_Jayne 07-15-2004 07:43 AM

yeah, so what I just said about cutting out or seriously limiting pasta, bread and spuds (along with sugary processed foods) is pretty much the same thing but it doesn't tip my body into a place where I really was being sick after meals.


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