Microsoft Security Patch Updates Today.. Is it making any difference? - GoFuckYourself.com

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:03 PM

There was a shitload of Microsoft Security Patch Updates Today.. But Is it making any difference?

Im not even sure if its stopping the exploits, and its certainly not removing the existing ones already on the affected PCS.

I dont see any signup differences..

Are the new updates even addressing the issue affecting us at hand with stolen signup pages, etc, or were they more just for stoping the popups and spyware-adware ad popups which i really could care less about.

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:04 PM

its a shame most people here have no idea what the fuck im talking about.

Tom_PMs · 07-14-2004, 03:06 PM

Hmm.. well since I've never had a problem before the patches, I guess I could say that they're working beautifully!!!

Similarly, the paperweight I keep on my desk is still working GREAT at keeping me protected from cougar attacks

Tom_PMs · 07-14-2004, 03:08 PM

Well it's a good question, bone.. I'm not sure anyone can answer yet though.

Has anyone looked carefully at the code to see if it is stopping auto-installs or anything?

I've always found that keeping security levels high, and changing the default activeX controller installer settings to PROMPT or NEVER is the best way to go..

pornstar2pac · 07-14-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
There was a shitload of Microsoft Security Patch Updates Today.. But Is it making any difference?

Im not even sure if its stopping the exploits, and its certainly not removing the existing ones already on the affected PCS.

I dont see any signup differences..

Are the new updates even addressing the issue affecting us at hand with stolen signup pages, etc, or were they more just for stoping the popups and spyware-adware ad popups which i really could care less about.

i havn't had my compter freeze up with ICQ on in the last 24 hours, since I downloaded the patches

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
Hmm.. well since I've never had a problem before the patches, I guess I could say that they're working beautifully!!!

Similarly, the paperweight I keep on my desk is still working GREAT at keeping me protected from cougar attacks

You as a surfer wont know if you are affected or infected by what im talking about.
But you as an affilate or paysite owner would.

Its very stealth. Im not talking adware here that popups silly ads.
Im talking about an exploit that enters a surfers registry and instils itself to redirect signup pages or switch refs, cookies, urls to the signup pages not only from the affialtes, or the paysite owners, but the billing companies as well.

You as a surfer wont even know you are infected. The fucking anto-spyware adware systems dont even look for it.

But it was my understanding Microsoft knows of this exploit and was addressing it.

Weather they addressed it with this new shitload of security updates today remains to be seen.

I was just wondering if anyone knew or not if it has been addressed in todays update.

Gottis · 07-14-2004, 03:11 PM

I highly recommend Ad-Aware, keeps your computers clean.

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Trax · 07-14-2004, 03:12 PM

7 new critical updates

unbelieveable

thanks bone for the heads up
installing now

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
I highly recommend Ad-Aware, keeps your computers clean.

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

They have no clue to as to what im talking about.

skillfull · 07-14-2004, 03:18 PM

i know what you are talking about
stuff named theftware...
i dont looked what was in the update microsoft installed, i will ask my coder to take a look

Tom_PMs · 07-14-2004, 03:20 PM

Well, I do earn money as an affiliate, and I'm totally familiar with the join page swaps and cookie theft that has been due to auto-spyware installs.

corvett might be one to ask.. But if he just looks at overall sales he might not notice either.

When I've checked some of the other examples posted on here of swapped codes from my PC, I havent noticed anything unusual from tour splash to processor join page. I'm sure I havent seen em all though, but one thing is for sure, allowing activex auto-installs when you know it's a client-side job is like holding the door wide open..

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by skillfull
i know what you are talking about
stuff named theftware...
i dont looked what was in the update microsoft installed, i will ask my coder to take a look

Yeah please do.

Most creative coders know what im talking about.

I know some of the most crative and crafty programers in the biz and this shit even baffels them.

Scarry shit. And its stealing from us. And there's currently no way to protect ourselves. It really targets all surfers who use Microsoft Explorer.

All the coders I know refuse to even use Microsoft browsers now. They all use Firefox. And this shit scares them enough to switch I think its something we should consider as well.

But the problem is the majority of surfers us Microsoft Browsers. Always will. So its up to microsoft to create a fix and a block for this. ITs really gone on way too long.

I only hope this latest update did the job.

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
Well, I do earn money as an affiliate, and I'm totally familiar with the join page swaps and cookie theft that has been due to auto-spyware installs.

corvett might be one to ask.. But if he just looks at overall sales he might not notice either.

When I've checked some of the other examples posted on here of swapped codes from my PC, I havent noticed anything unusual from tour splash to processor join page. I'm sure I havent seen em all though, but one thing is for sure, allowing activex auto-installs when you know it's a client-side job is like holding the door wide open..

Yeah Corvette and I have been talking a lot lately.
Working with him actively ..

But we are all in the grip of Microsoft fixing this.

crockett · 07-14-2004, 03:32 PM

I've posted this before, I do service calls for a few big ISP's from time to time.. I'd say 70% of the calls are related to people with spyware. It's insane how bad this shit has gotten. I've seen computers that could barley run with all the ad aware and I've also seen some of the affiliate ID swaps.. in fact smoky posted one a few days ago..

I can say one thing for sure. The program owners may not see a big difference in sign ups right away. However the affiliates are seeing it, when they stop sending hits to programs because their codes are jacked..The programs will start taking notice. Because the hi jacker's aren't sending shit for traffic they are stealing it.

The program owners really need to start keep track of who is sending them traffic and where it's coming from.

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
I've posted this before, I do service calls for a few big ISP's from time to time.. I'd say 70% of the calls are related to people with spyware. It's insane how bad this shit has gotten. I've seen computers that could barley run with all the ad aware and I've also seen some of the affiliate ID swaps.. in fact smoky posted one a few days ago..

I can say one thing for sure. The program owners may not see a big difference in sign ups right away. However the affiliates are seeing it, when they stop sending hits to programs because their codes are jacked..The programs will start taking notice. Because the hi jacker's aren't sending shit for traffic they are stealing it.

The program owners really need to start keep track of who is sending them traffic and where it's coming from.

Exactly.

But id say over 70% of the program owners have no fucking clue as to what we are talking about. And you think the billing companies are gunna inform em? And do you think they will listen to the affiliates?

Again we are all in the fate of Microsoft.
Microsoft is God.

crockett · 07-14-2004, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Exactly.

But id say over 70% of the program owners have no fucking clue as to what we are talking about. And you think the billing companies are gunna inform em? And do you think they will listen to the affiliates?

Again we are all in the fate of Microsoft.
Microsoft is God.

yea the really sad part is Homeland security issued an announcement last week telling people not to use Internet Explorer, to download a 3rd party browser . Because of all the security issue's of IE.

I'm guessing that's the real reason for all these recent patches.

boneprone · 07-14-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
yea the really sad part is Homeland security issued an announcement last week telling people not to use Internet Explorer, to download a 3rd party browser . Because of all the security issue's of IE.

I'm guessing that's the real reason for all these recent patches.

exactly.

And with that said I think the patches are more for the adware and spyware installs. To make the surfers PCs run smoother and without the popups and shit.. Which really I could care less about.

But I doubt the issue that affects us with the signup hijacking was as much a priority to Microsoft to address.

Lycanthrope · 07-14-2004, 10:17 PM

I'm not sure if the updates fixed it, but for fun I installed the SP2 beta... and it does stop it. Also stops all pop-ups, pop-unders... hell, flash ads, dialer / toobar prompts... it stops almost all sales efforts sans direct linking.

Things will being changing soon... granted, not every surfer at home is going to install it or have a near up to date system, but it could take big chunks out of everyones money.

As a surfer, SP2 is great, as a webbie... shit fuck hell, time to redo some things.

TheJimmy · 07-14-2004, 10:22 PM

I know what you're talking about and as usual the best way to hunt down and find this shit is 'follow the money'...however that is more of a task than can be imagined unless you're a secret agent mannnnnn

tony286 · 07-14-2004, 10:22 PM

Firefox rules, the number of people that will download it will not be as high as you think. My wife is helping a member now who was having problems with window media 9 . The reason was he was he is still on windows 98 first edition which doesnt support windows media 9 . We have a ton of members like this.

hydro · 07-14-2004, 10:42 PM

Pick updates to install

There are no critical updates available at this time.

However, Windows Update has found other updates for your computer. To browse through these updates and select the ones you want to install, click a category title in the list.

I guess you were talking about the updates that were released last night. No the updates didnt fix anything. Here on my pc i have 4 remote root exploits for ie explorer. They allow people to run exe files on your computer with you just loading the page. I have another exploit that will allow a person to import favorites and change your home page. And those are just the ones that have been made public on a few security sites. Microsoft really needs to get it together, hopefully these exploits dont fall into the hands of kids like mediatickets and the other spyware companies that just love to fuck peoples computers up.

Shoplifter · 07-14-2004, 10:42 PM

I'm finding that some streaming wmv videos are not working after these patches.

Lycanthrope · 07-14-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by hydro
Pick updates to install

There are no critical updates available at this time.

However, Windows Update has found other updates for your computer. To browse through these updates and select the ones you want to install, click a category title in the list.

I guess you were talking about the updates that were released last night. No the updates didnt fix anything. Here on my pc i have 4 remote root exploits for ie explorer. They allow people to run exe files on your computer with you just loading the page. I have another exploit that will allow a person to import favorites and change your home page. And those are just the ones that have been made public on a few security sites. Microsoft really needs to get it together, hopefully these exploits dont fall into the hands of kids like mediatickets and the other spyware companies that just love to fuck peoples computers up.

These exploits are already in their hands... and they are stealing... er replacing ref codes for some big programs

KRL · 07-14-2004, 10:51 PM

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Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-14-2004, 10:55 PM

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SmokeyTheBear · 07-14-2004, 10:59 PM

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KRL · 07-14-2004, 11:01 PM

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TheJimmy · 07-14-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Firefox rules...

as does Mozilla, Netscape and anything non-MS....including your core OSs....

shit if someone hates the thought of installing *nix from scratch there are such wonderful things as Xandros and Linspire that make it alllllll too easy to completely switch over these days...

07-14-2004, 03:03 PM	#1
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Microsoft Security Patch Updates Today.. Is it making any difference? There was a shitload of Microsoft Security Patch Updates Today.. But Is it making any difference? Im not even sure if its stopping the exploits, and its certainly not removing the existing ones already on the affected PCS. I dont see any signup differences.. Are the new updates even addressing the issue affecting us at hand with stolen signup pages, etc, or were they more just for stoping the popups and spyware-adware ad popups which i really could care less about. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

07-14-2004, 03:04 PM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	its a shame most people here have no idea what the fuck im talking about. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

07-14-2004, 03:06 PM	#3
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Hmm.. well since I've never had a problem before the patches, I guess I could say that they're working beautifully!!! Similarly, the paperweight I keep on my desk is still working GREAT at keeping me protected from cougar attacks __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

07-14-2004, 03:08 PM	#4
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Well it's a good question, bone.. I'm not sure anyone can answer yet though. Has anyone looked carefully at the code to see if it is stopping auto-installs or anything? I've always found that keeping security levels high, and changing the default activeX controller installer settings to PROMPT or NEVER is the best way to go.. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

07-14-2004, 03:18 PM	#10
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Gottis Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: VIP NO ID Posts: 1,746	I highly recommend Ad-Aware, keeps your computers clean. http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

07-14-2004, 03:12 PM	#8
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	7 new critical updates unbelieveable thanks bone for the heads up installing now

07-14-2004, 03:20 PM	#11
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Well, I do earn money as an affiliate, and I'm totally familiar with the join page swaps and cookie theft that has been due to auto-spyware installs. corvett might be one to ask.. But if he just looks at overall sales he might not notice either. When I've checked some of the other examples posted on here of swapped codes from my PC, I havent noticed anything unusual from tour splash to processor join page. I'm sure I havent seen em all though, but one thing is for sure, allowing activex auto-installs when you know it's a client-side job is like holding the door wide open.. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

07-14-2004, 03:32 PM	#14
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	I've posted this before, I do service calls for a few big ISP's from time to time.. I'd say 70% of the calls are related to people with spyware. It's insane how bad this shit has gotten. I've seen computers that could barley run with all the ad aware and I've also seen some of the affiliate ID swaps.. in fact smoky posted one a few days ago.. I can say one thing for sure. The program owners may not see a big difference in sign ups right away. However the affiliates are seeing it, when they stop sending hits to programs because their codes are jacked..The programs will start taking notice. Because the hi jacker's aren't sending shit for traffic they are stealing it. The program owners really need to start keep track of who is sending them traffic and where it's coming from. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

07-14-2004, 10:17 PM	#18
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	I'm not sure if the updates fixed it, but for fun I installed the SP2 beta... and it does stop it. Also stops all pop-ups, pop-unders... hell, flash ads, dialer / toobar prompts... it stops almost all sales efforts sans direct linking. Things will being changing soon... granted, not every surfer at home is going to install it or have a near up to date system, but it could take big chunks out of everyones money. As a surfer, SP2 is great, as a webbie... shit fuck hell, time to redo some things. __________________

07-14-2004, 10:22 PM	#19
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	I know what you're talking about and as usual the best way to hunt down and find this shit is 'follow the money'...however that is more of a task than can be imagined unless you're a secret agent mannnnnn __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

07-14-2004, 10:22 PM	#20
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Firefox rules, the number of people that will download it will not be as high as you think. My wife is helping a member now who was having problems with window media 9 . The reason was he was he is still on windows 98 first edition which doesnt support windows media 9 . We have a ton of members like this.

07-14-2004, 10:42 PM	#21
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	Pick updates to install There are no critical updates available at this time. However, Windows Update has found other updates for your computer. To browse through these updates and select the ones you want to install, click a category title in the list. I guess you were talking about the updates that were released last night. No the updates didnt fix anything. Here on my pc i have 4 remote root exploits for ie explorer. They allow people to run exe files on your computer with you just loading the page. I have another exploit that will allow a person to import favorites and change your home page. And those are just the ones that have been made public on a few security sites. Microsoft really needs to get it together, hopefully these exploits dont fall into the hands of kids like mediatickets and the other spyware companies that just love to fuck peoples computers up.

07-14-2004, 10:42 PM	#22
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	I'm finding that some streaming wmv videos are not working after these patches.

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