hope that "mommas boy, daddys trust fund" finances was directed towards me... :)

I just wanna take a sec to thank everyone who's had something encouraging to say. Stuff like that is part of what's going to keep me motivated. To the few who were laughing at 2K... well, congrats... in the event that I do go somewhere, you just lost a possible future partner.

You'll make more money buying my sig for the month.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

When I was 20, my dad has to co-sign on my loans still. When I was 23, my credit was good enough to get a house loan and new car loans on my own. Good luck.

You know, I actually didn't think you were a bad guy.

i mean't "wasn't directed..."

calling people "sir" is my tagline :(

No, not at all man. I am not the typical GFY user, looking to bash others intentionally, in efforts of overcompensating for my own lack of self worth. That statement was a generalization targeted at kids of privelaged families, who never risk a dollar. And when they do, and fail - Daddy lifts them back up, washes away the failure, and allow this cycle to continue. So long post short, not directed at anyone in this thread. Directed at a social class, encompassing our fine society. :winkwink:

good luck bud

wish i had the money, afraid to take a loan, same situation, crappy job, 20, and a poor assed college student

I'm just using up my paychecks right now

Yup, thats the boat I've been in and I'm so, so sick of it. The one thing I truely love doing is art... but what are the chances of making good money painting? The term "starving artist" didn't come without a base in reality. So what could I do? Keep cutting meat for shitty money for the rest of my life? Fuck that. I need a way out, and I decided over a year ago this is what I want to do. Countless amounts of reading later - I'm ready to make a serious start.

So true.
If nothing else, this thread proves that one fact.

keep us posted...i'd love to see your progress.

Thanks man, hit me up on ICQ if ya get the time. 324-549-991

many people started with zero.

That's the whole point of the thread. I'll be going into details about what's going on once things get rolling. Only bad thing is, like I said... I can't apply for the loan until the 25th. So, this will be getting bumped in the coming weeks when things start up.

if you really love doing art

why not give a try for graphics design, save some money and design your own layout

I'm currently in school majoring in graphic design. I could design each page myself, but would they be as good as one done by someone who does adult design for a living? I'd like to say yes. But, more importantly... I think the time I'd have to spend designing the amount of pages I need is worth more than what I'll end up paying. I'm trying to approach this as a business...which I'm finding is a hard thing for a lot of people to do. Running my plans by some of my friends, I got responses like "its just porn". If I was trying to seriously get into another business... wouldn't it be wise to pay someone else to do the most time consuming work for me? Maybe I'm wrong - and I very well may be. But that's just how I'm looking at it.

This is true in many cases, but only people with some money in the bank can roll with such a mind set. In your case you can probably get the outlining work done on your sites, then hire a person to complete it. This way you can save a few bucks.

It takes sweat, tears, headaches and allnighters to get a proper start in the business world. :2 cents:

$2k is enough for a start in this business. Me and my partner started with just a domain and paying like $25-30/month for hosting and it didnt happen ages ago.

agree with what you say..but, in my world of admin...work smarter. automate what you can, DO NOT do each page or pay for each 'page' by hand. Build templates that you can mix and match. The time of static pages is past.....


that being said, good luck to you..

(and you are 100% correct on the attitude and cash bits. watch out for the egos)

Like I said earlier, I'm in this for the long haul, and am starting small. :thumbsup

This isn't a... "watch a new guy make 5 grand in his first month in the biz" thread. I truely hope it didn't come off like that. This is nothing more than an invite to watch what happens when someone starts out.

good luck bug
if u will need good quliaty design for low price to succeed
hit me up in icq
i will be glad to help u

some good advices

additionally, if you plan to do this full-time try to make few non adult sites as well. They can turn better and easier profit than adult at this moment.

Good luck sir!

any advice on what type of non-adult sites?

Halo,

If you are up for possibly working out some hosting trade/partnership hit me up.

I have my own colocated server relatively unused resources and bandwidth. I can be flexible as to what gets installed and configured.

This goes for anyone else too.

ICQ me at 257500889
AIM me at EnigmaTek

Mike

Congrats on getting the loan, most people your age probably don't have the credit to get a loan for 300 bux.

what's your email? i prefer not share info on a board full of made millionaires :)

One word of advice - promote what YOU like. Promote the stuff that turns you on, you will do a better job at it.

I wish you all the luck. I'm in the same boat. Except I'm a little bit lazy. I took out a loan for 2500, to promote my mainstream site, and have profited pretty well. However, I have put most of my profit into my adult sites, and I guess they suck, cause they are money pits. But, I have learned A LOT in the past year and have turned a pretty nice profit, and I would be happy to repay the favors that so many of the cooler webmasters have given me.

If you need anything, hit me up on ICQ 195479304 or aim bcooter151

i looj forward to seeing what happens. i suggest you go to a casino and put the whole lot on red.

I'll be bookmarking this thread, good luck.

I started with 0. Now I make so much I can't tell my friends about it anymore. I just keep telling them the amount I was making 2 years ago and they all go (whoa, nice!). If they only knew how much things changed.

dude, internet is still at its early stage. there's a ton of money to be made still. just be in the game.

Good luck man.... my advice, spend wisely.

You don't need $2000 to get started in this business...

Start with a cheap host and work your way up. For good cheap hosting check out the deals over at http://www.250host.com ... http://www.amateurhosting.com is also a good cheap host to start out with while your bandwidth is relatively low.

Need content? You can always use free sponsor content... check out AdultLounge ... they've got tons of free content for you to promote AdultLounge with, and the conversions are great!

Or if you want to buy content check out http://www.worldwidecontent.com


AVS & Free Sites are still a great way to promote programs without using a shitload of bandwidth (TGP). And you'll notice alot higher conversions too... I'd give them a shot first, and maybe try some PPC SE's.

webmaster at (god i hate spam) halo18.com

wow this is gonna be an great contest

What contest?

Good luck bro.

No need to try to grow too fast.
I see this happen too often.

Grow slow. Stable. Dont rush it. Dont stress for funds to do this ot that. Just grow grow grow and re-invest, reinvest reinvest.

Being you are in school puts you at an advantage. You can grow it slow and stable and go to school at the same time.

I was in Grad School in 1997 when I started as well. I would skip class and do work in the library or Computer labs in college. By buds would laugh..

Even when I graduated I got a real job and did my Porn stuff on the side. Grew it more and more and more, and Re-invested almost all the money it made. SHit was spendy back then. Everything from content to bandwith to programing. Now days that shit is all cheap and growth can happen overnight what once would take weeks if not months.

Nevertheless take your time. And remember dont grow to fast.
Take your time and establish that base. And Re-Invest that money you make from it, dont spend it. Evolve with the industry, and dont let it chew you up. By reinvesting your money into your shit it helps you adapt to the environment and evolve with the industry. You see too many companies or webmasters who make the cash then they spend it or blow it. Then they just wash away becasue of thier inabilty to adapt and evolve.

Get a stable base and grow and contiue to always grow and evolve is the best weapon you can have. Its a weapon that is purely just a frame of mind. Yet so many webmasters lack it.

This advice goes to any niche of the industry. I have not idea what you are doing specfically, but I assure you this will apply to what ever you intend to do.

Good luck and stick with it. I rememeber my old poor college days like they were yesterday. It was an exciting time.

Oh yeah...
Another piece of advice.

OUTSOURCE...


Never hire a American Programer. Designers are ok, but programers outsource.

They are cheaper, more creative and dedicated. They are just as sharp and will save you a bundle. And they seem to stick around to the end. Dont believe the BS that Euro, Former Soviet Nation, and Turkish people cant be trusted. They can. And the dollar goes a long way with them. One thing they are not afriad to do is work.

your typical American programer is spoiled.

How do you find good foreign programers?

Network. Network Network.

Thats one of the biggest tools you can have. Your networking ability. Get to know people. Not fucking around on GFY.. ITs networking yeah, but have a more serious means of networking as well. Your sucess in the biz will be as good as your social network not just your technical network.

Looks like some solid advice Boneprone. Thanks and Keep us posted Halo18