The whole point of this movie is to make college kids vote.

Just something to convince them that there's some value in getting that absentee ballot or planning a trip back to the folks' house.

That's the worst possible thing that could happen for the current administration.

Egads! Higher turnout be DAMNED!

And on that note, here are three uncontestable truths:

1) Voting Republican will not overturn Roe v. Wade.

2) Voting Republican will not put prayer in school.

3) Voting Republican will not make gay people disappear.

This is mandatory reading for the churchgoers; please do the world a service and flyer some cars on Sunday.

Of course, if internet porn starts to make me rich, I'll change my name to MrFreeMarket and drop Rand quotes. And the money goes offshore.

I second that.

Can you possibly comprehend what he must have been thinking at the time?

Unless you're him or, of course, Michael Moore, I think not.

He has just been told of a devastating attack of untold and unheard of proportions in this or any lifetime upon the USA. And HE not you or I, is the "Leader of the free world". Whatever decisions he makes will be up for generations or criticism.

Perhaps he was thinking about all the money spent on his visit to Florida to promote literacy. Perhaps he was thinking about not upsetting all of the children in his presence. Remember, this date would have been remembered for the rest of these children's lives regardless of whether or not those attacks had taken place.

I hazard to guess that if he had up and left or been removed by the secret service, the Michael Moore spin would have been as follows:

-The president wasted these poor peoples tax dollars when all he was doing was preserving his OWN safely (he would have been whisked away to a safe place).

After all, the mayor and governor of NY were already dealing with the situation at hand and were on scene. GWB couldn't do anything immediately. You'd thing he'd have been able to spend 20 minutes finishing reading a book and THEN being taken away.

The sad thing about Michael Moore is not matter what GWB did or would have chose to do he was or would have been in the wrong. That's Michael Moore's agenda and his sheep believe every single word of it without looking at it objectively. That speaks for a great lack of intelligence. End of story.

Blah blah blah.

Guns and war are STILL bad.

The most shocking part to me is people pull in alot of this bs as fact.

This isn't about supporting the Bush administration, it's about showing that you can take virtually ANYTHING and spin in the way you want.

Statistics have shown that statistics are practically useless unless you know who's doing the survey itself.

Bush and his administration did alot of things wrong, no question, and Michael Moore has brought some of that to our attention. Some of it we already knew of from RELIABLE news sources.

The point (in my mind anyways) is that what Michael Moore speaks is not the truth. It is a fabrication. If you can sit her and say that GWB fabricated a war, than at least admit that Moore fabricated alot of the "Facts" in his movies.

Intelligent response.
I agree.

I for one really enjoyed that die hard american chick that was so pround to be american and so proud to have her son in the army, 5 weeks later her son got shot and suddenly she wasn't that die hard, proud to be american bitch anymore.

It's very sad that it required her son's life to open her eyes, somehow reminds me of some die hard american keyboard warriors here.

I didn't enjoy it. I thought it was terrible.

But to instantly throw her blame on the very institution that she told her children would help support them and put them through school, was so brutally hypocritical that it made her look like a fool.

I'm sure she was placing some blame on herself, and the guilt she'll live with for the rest of her life will surely drive her to therapy.

Of course, Michael Moore wouldn't show that however, or even ask the question (at least not on film).

Boy the noobs are out tonight.

I think for the most part teens DO NOT trust the government. She just seems like such a puppet who is unable to process any thoughts of her own. But I guess that is what happens when your name becomes a corporation and your PR reps do your thinking for you.


BG

ORWELL ROLLS IN HIS GRAVE!

"A marvel of passionate succinctness...refrains from preaching to the choir"
-- Ronnie Scheib, Variety

ok you have a point in terms o thinking for yourself but you can't deny the fact that reveals some major Dirt on Bush. Wouldn't you agree have you seen the movie ?

Most shocking to me is how superficial it was and didn't dig up and real grit. There are so many larger issue it could have exposed... however as a general primer on the issue it was superb. Especially it's portrayal of the human element.

Yeah I cant deny the fact. I tend to pay attention to news and politics anyway though, and not much of it was news to me personally. I'd made up my mind long long long before this to vote opposite. Way way way before kerry was picked.

And in 3 or 4 years if Kerry proves to be a fuckup, I'll vote him out too. Cuz I dont vote for or against a party, I vote for or against a person.

I find this "left" and "right" shit just a way people can feel like they're in a group. They disregard anything that goes against their idea of their group.

Fact remains, kids are dying everyday in Iraq. As are Iraqies. Where the fuck are the allies? Bush has ruined so much of what the US stands for and I can't believe he still has followers. Yeah I said followers, not supporters :1orglaugh

Kids dying everyday and Bush standing infront of rich motherfuckers making jokes.... come on you people... It's an illusion that bush cares about you. Break free from the "group" and decide for yourself.

Bush is a cocksucker... as is Cheney. I'm all for him going up on War crimes.

Won't happen with his "base" and his "have mores". They feed your brain daily with their TV channels.

How do you pronounce it ? Hi-el hit-ler?
:Graucho :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Hey, relax I'm Michael Moore.

The only shocking part about the movie is that anyone is dumb enough to watch it. Its 90% lies, crap, and distortions.

Don't get me wrong, my vote is for Kerry, but please people, use your brain. If you believe half the shit in that movie, you probably also believe the CIA killed Kennedy and Elvis is alive.

Sheesh. I knew it would play in Europe but I can't believe Americans are dumb enough to believe all this stupid crap, amazing.

An IQ test should be required to vote, IMO. Moore is an idiot, plain and simple. He helps the right because he makes the left look so nutty.

elvis isn't alive

is that what you are saying?

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Support your troops and Democracy, get Bush the fuck outta office!

One thing I don't see from all the people that act like they know everything is a realistic, rational solution to the extremist Muslim problem.

most shocking to me


NO MUSIC

ok .. 2 songs

and michael moore is still trying to sell a soundtrack deal




BIG B

That is something that the WORLD has to figure out, NOT just America. Trying to do it alone is only makeing the problems worse.

While I'm not a supporter of this war, I do see that the Middle East must be dealt with. But the Bush Admin IS NOT trying to fix the problems, they are trying to get rich (And a number of other things).

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "If I trusted my leaders and thought that going to Iraqi would help the oppressed people over there, well I wouldnt be on this message board talking to all of you. But I WILL NOT go fight so a handfull of criminals can get what they want. If i fight it will be, like my Grandfather did in WWII, for American honor and Democracy."

Unfortunatlly Democracy is failing due to a Corporate Media and Government that work together and dont check one a nother.

What shocks me the most is how so many people defend Bush.

another good movie to watch out for is "OUTFOXED", it explains the corruption w/several news networks. And they how they manipulate the masses w/simple suggestions & phrases.