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Old 07-12-2004, 08:54 AM   #1
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Shaquille O'Neal in a Miami Heat uniform

" MIAMI (AP) -- Expect to see Shaquille O'Neal in a Miami Heat uniform next season. Miami is expected to send a package that includes Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, one other player -- perhaps Caron Butler -- and a first-round draft choice to Los Angeles in exchange for the 7-foot-1, 340-pound O'Neal, who demanded a trade shortly after the Lakers lost the NBA Finals to Detroit." -- si.com

Laker's will never be the same without the Big fellow
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Old 07-12-2004, 08:55 AM   #2
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i wish they would send kobe packin
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Old 07-12-2004, 08:55 AM   #3
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Old 07-12-2004, 08:56 AM   #4
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Kobe will leave as well, the old folks like the Malone and Payton are retiring and the coash is gone, so LA will sucks next year.
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Old 07-12-2004, 08:57 AM   #5
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gonna suck real bad for the lakers if kobe gets convicted....

i don't think they give community service for rape.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:00 AM   #6
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Eddie Jones and Shaq reunited in the starting lineup of Heat is another coaching opportunity for Pat Riley.

Been an LA fanatic since the Kobe era, but damn, things is going the exit way for the Laker's franchise, neither can Kobe save this one.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:06 AM   #7
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They should trade Kobe. He's a great player but A) he's tearing the team apart. B) He can't win without shaq.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:23 AM   #8
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Kobe will leave as well, the old folks like the Malone and Payton are retiring and the coash is gone, so LA will sucks next year.
true, even if you have a championship coach like Rudy, you still have to make solid star players
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:43 AM   #9
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The heat are the Lakers of the east coast now....

3 former lakers that I know off the top of my head.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:58 AM   #10
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Shaq is the real deal !

I think he will stick to his word and leave after
Phil Jackson being replaced. Miami seems to be a
logical City for him to go to ....after being in Orlando
already.

Apperently Shaq is pissed off that Kobe is getting his way
now that the season is done. Kobe wanted Phil out and
he's gone , Shaq was tight with Jackson too.

Funny thing is that Kobe is entertaining an offer from
the Clippers , and he said that he really likes their team
makeup with some of the best young players on the roster.

So if Shaq leaves.... the Lakers better open the Vault and kiss
Kobe's ass to get him to stay. If not then that will go down in
history with Lakers losing 2 of the most dominating players
in history in one offseason.


I don't think they will lose both Kobe and Shaq.
I think Kobe will stay and play with some great young players
in exchange for the Big Diesel.

It will finally be his team ! one way or the other
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Old 07-12-2004, 10:00 AM   #11
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Fuck Kobe...


idiot can do shit if he doesnt have Shaq there with him.


hehe, this should be interseting
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Old 07-12-2004, 10:54 AM   #12
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Shaq is the real deal !

I think he will stick to his word and leave after
Phil Jackson being replaced. Miami seems to be a
logical City for him to go to ....after being in Orlando
already.

Apperently Shaq is pissed off that Kobe is getting his way
now that the season is done. Kobe wanted Phil out and
he's gone , Shaq was tight with Jackson too.

Funny thing is that Kobe is entertaining an offer from
the Clippers , and he said that he really likes their team
makeup with some of the best young players on the roster.

So if Shaq leaves.... the Lakers better open the Vault and kiss
Kobe's ass to get him to stay. If not then that will go down in
history with Lakers losing 2 of the most dominating players
in history in one offseason.


I don't think they will lose both Kobe and Shaq.
I think Kobe will stay and play with some great young players
in exchange for the Big Diesel.

It will finally be his team ! one way or the other
this only shows how Phil is a very powerful and inspiring coach to his players. kinda recall what happened in his last days with the Bulls after winning 6 rings, Jordan saying he won't comeback if Jackson can't coach the team.
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Old 07-12-2004, 10:59 AM   #13
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FUCK!!!!!

No doubt it will take the Lakers some time to rebuild after losing Shaq. But at least he's not going somewhere like the Spurs or Rockets where he could really prevent us from going to the finals. Meeting him in the finals would be interesting, but he's got to take them there for that to happen.

I think Kobe will stay, he's just showing the Lakers how much other teams are willing to pay for him so he can get the most out of Jerry Buss. Lamar Odom will be a very nice addition, but Brian Grant won't cut it as center. The Lakers need a big strong center again.

I'd get rid of Rick Fox, keep Fisher, get rid of Payton, keep Malone for another year. Rest Malone towards the end of the season so he's fresh for the playoffs.

Anyway you look at it, it's going to be very tough to get past the first round of the playoffs next year for the Lakers. Now all Rudy has to do is teach Kobe how to play team ball. IF Kobe can play as a team, they'll go past 2 rounds next year.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:01 AM   #14
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Basketball is pretty boring IMO. The only game to watch is the one when the Lakers are eliminated.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:16 AM   #15
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idiot can do shit if he doesnt have Shaq there with him.
you forget that Shaq never got a ring until Kobe was able to blossom into one of the best players in the league.

Shaq can do all he wants... what's he gonna do in the 4th quarter (where it matters) when they start fouling him?

shaq lookin for Eddie jones for help? ahahah... Eddie has the biggest disappearing act in the playoffs... his nick should be: "the invisible man" .. cuz he's nowhere to be found come playoff time.

Dewayne wade has some talent.. but he's still a few years away... by that time.. shaq will be even more fat n useless.

the man wants 30mil/yr ... too fat n doesnt play defense anymore ... trade him... i just wish the Lakeshow would get a decent big in return
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:49 AM   #16
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Now I can finally stop hating on Shaq. Seems like a nice guy but I hate everything Lakers.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:58 AM   #17
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room to improve the team. bah who needs him
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The heat are gonna be better than the lakers next season
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Old 07-12-2004, 12:25 PM   #19
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Hmmmm

I posted this shit like 4 days ago..

And you all will see how Dwayne becomes one of the best players in the game thanks to Shaq being here..

The heat wont need eddie jones at the end they got dwayne!

Shaq makes everyone around him better.. u will see how kobe will falter.. he will suck ass this yr.. =)
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Old 07-12-2004, 01:05 PM   #20
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The heat are gonna be better than the lakers next season
that's one thing for sure
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That sucks! he should have stayed in LA!
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Shaq is fucking on he way out. Kobe will win without Shaq, and will stay with the lakers. Fuck the heat
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Shaq is fucking on he way out. Kobe will win without Shaq, and will stay with the lakers. Fuck the heat
this past season lakers were a ~.510 when shaq was out and kobe was in.

they were something like .720 when kobe was out and shaq was in.

I'd stick with Shaq.
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kobe is going to jail, where he belongs. We're more then happy to have Shaq in Miami.
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That sucks! he should have stayed in LA!
About time that Shaq revel to basketball community that he can win a championship minus Kobe. Shaq was able to realize that winning a ring, you have to learn by the rules, team effort and able to follow your coach's decision... this is how Kobe failed the test.

Lakers got their 3 rings from the Triangle offense which both Kobe and Payton failed to take advantage this time.
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They should trade Kobe. He's a great player but A) he's tearing the team apart. B) He can't win without shaq.
True dat! Kobe's a player but he doesn't inspire a team, like, say, a Michael Jordan. I'm tired of KB and his ego, regardless of the fact that he has an awesome touch.
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True dat! Kobe's a player but he doesn't inspire a team, like, say, a Michael Jordan. I'm tired of KB and his ego, regardless of the fact that he has an awesome touch.
he needs to prove himself next season. now that Shaq is out of his back, he has to show that he can win championship buy his own sweat. Kobe's needs more coaching before you can pair him with the greats like Jordan.
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this past season lakers were a ~.510 when shaq was out and kobe was in.

they were something like .720 when kobe was out and shaq was in.

I'd stick with Shaq.
those numbers a skewed... the team was built all around and to compliment shaq... so when he's not there.. of course the numbers will hurt.

build a team around kobe... and it'll be the same way.
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this is why NBA is exiting every opening season, you will never know will dress up for you fav team

Kobe is history and will his fate at LA is yet to be decided
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Shaq is going to come down here with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove IMO. And if he does come to play in shape and ready to go, the rest of the NBA better watch out.
Dwayne Wade has to be smiling his ass off. One or two more complimentary players--and lots of guys are looking at Miami now--and the Heat will be the beast of the East.
Remember, Detroit didn't exactly stop Shaq in the Finals. Hoggish, selfish, arrogant Kobe did by hoisting up stupid ass shots all the time.
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true, even if you have a championship coach like Rudy, you still have to make solid star players
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