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Old 07-11-2004, 04:03 AM   #1
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in simulated combat su-35 ratio against US fighter jets were:

F-15C 0.8 : 1
F/A-18 0.4 : 1
F/A-18C 0.3 : 1
F-16C 0.3 : 1


for every su-35 shot down there were 3 f-16s down, 2 F-18..
US airforce rocks....

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Nice, Sukhoi knows how to make a flying machine.

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Sweet! But what is that? A sales vid for developing countries?
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Sweet! But what is that? A sales vid for developing countries?
yes, like Luftwaffe that has Migs and Sus...
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Hey...we know the Su's kick ass. We have the Discovery Channel.
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comes down to pilot training
that guy sure has no clue what to do whit the thing...
you're pathetic..
have excuse for everything.
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China buys most of Russias planes and weapons. Russia reinvest most of the money back into R&D of these planes. China spends many billions a year on weapons from Russia.
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in simulated combat su-35 ratio against US fighter jets were:

F-15C 0.8 : 1
F/A-18 0.4 : 1
F/A-18C 0.3 : 1
F-16C 0.3 : 1


for every su-35 shot down there were 3 f-16s down, 2 F-18..
US airforce rocks....
This assumes that Russia can put it's planes in the sky. If their Air Force is anything like their Navy it's doubtful that they can put their planes up in the air. Their Navy is pretty much sitting in mothballs, isn't it?
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This assumes that Russia can put it's planes in the sky. If their Air Force is anything like their Navy it's doubtful that they can put their planes up in the air. Their Navy is pretty much sitting in mothballs, isn't it?
Russia is the second biggest military spender in the world after USA. Not to mention that a US dollar goes much further in Russia. These are old stats BTW. Putin has increase military spending much more. I am sure they can put a few planes in the sky if they had to.

Updated March 19, 2003

United States 399.1
Russia* 65.0
China* 47.0
Japan 42.6
United Kingdom 38.4
France 29.5
Germany 24.9
Saudi Arabia 21.3
Italy 19.4
India 15.6

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This assumes that Russia can put it's planes in the sky. If their Air Force is anything like their Navy it's doubtful that they can put their planes up in the air. Their Navy is pretty much sitting in mothballs, isn't it?
wow.. aren't you the expert...
why don't you use "it all comes to pilot training" thing that the othe kid is using?

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very capable airplane. I didn't know it had scalable jets like the F-22.

Just the paint is hideous.
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wow.. aren't you the expert...
why don't you use "it all comes to pilot training" thing that the othe kid is using?
your funny, I forgot the planes fly themselves.
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very capable airplane. I didn't know it had scalable jets like the F-22.

Just the paint is hideous.
Yeah would be sexy if they made it all black
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Well lets just be glad we can see this thing on radar..

Really as i watched it I though great.. I see no attempt at stealth, look they are still developing classic airframes to boot.

Great news... sell them to china also.
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Mig I-2000 ( Tactical Stealth Fighter )

Wonder when this will come out

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China buys most of Russias planes and weapons. Russia reinvest most of the money back into R&D of these planes. China spends many billions a year on weapons from Russia.
Already predicting the 3rd war scenario... China against the USA...
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Russia is the second biggest military spender in the world after USA. Not to mention that a US dollar goes much further in Russia. These are old stats BTW. Putin has increase military spending much more. I am sure they can put a few planes in the sky if they had to.

Updated March 19, 2003

United States 399.1
Russia* 65.0
China* 47.0
Japan 42.6
United Kingdom 38.4
France 29.5
Germany 24.9
Saudi Arabia 21.3
Italy 19.4
India 15.6

http://www.cdi.org/budget/2004/world...y-spending.cfm
This info is from the open sources... Only during this year Putin has increased the military budget on who knows %... Let's see what will happen in the next 4-5 years... Drunk Eltzin-Clinton "friendship" times were passed.
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Already predicting the 3rd war scenario... China against the USA...
We're already in the 4th World War right now:
WW1 1914-1918 (We won)
WW2 1939-1945 (We won)
WW3 (Cold War) c.1945-c.1991 (we won)
WW4 (Civilisation vs fundamentalist Islam) 1979-20?? (We will win if the whackjob socialists in our own countries don't get their way)
WW5 (China vs Democracies), if it happens, will run most likely concurrently to WW4, unless WW4 is over by then.
IMO, there will not be a war against China. The Chinese will most probably rise up and take democracy from their Communist rulers of their own accord.
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Already predicting the 3rd war scenario... China against the USA...
Nope there that won't happen.
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IMO, there will not be a war against China. The Chinese will most probably rise up and take democracy from their Communist rulers of their own accord. [/B]
High chance of this.. problem is what do those leaders do when it's about to end?. let's just hope all the missile crews also rebel.
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China is not ready for Democracy, the population is too great. 4 Billion people with too much freedom will go nuts, crime will skyrocket.

Plus communism is slowly fading away and capitalism is taking over. Allot of state owned companies are competing with private owned companies. There is a new problem now, there is a huge gap between the rich and the poor. With communism, everyone is equal and everything is controlled by government. This is no longer China.

Communism vs Democracy


Communism is an original system of society, quite different from Democracy in many ways. While total democracy is not widely spread, many forms of it are prosperous throughout the world today.

One of the first and major differences between a Communist and Democratic government is their contrary economic systems. In a communist government, the community owns the major resources and means of production. The goal of such a system is to prevent any one person or group of people from becoming radically rich, while others are extremely poor. The system attempts to eliminate lower class by balancing the wealth between rich and poor, therefore giving everyone equal pay and ownership. Unfortunately, this results in an increased lower class. However, in a Democracy, free enterprising is permitted, and smiled upon. ? Here, free enterprising helps the economy to flourish. People can organize their own businesses and receive their own profits if it succeeds, or debts if it fails. In this system, the harder a person works, the more money they receive, allowing them to ?make ends meet.? The downside to democracy is that people can get a high paying job through education, but may work just as hard at a lower paying job and receive less money. As Winston Churchill once said, "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." Generally, Democracy?s seem be more successful economically.

In a democracy, money is the most dominant incentive. On the contrary, in a communist government, a person can work a million times harder than the person sitting next to him, and receive equal pay. This results in no incentive on the part of the worker whatsoever. When there is nothing to achieve by working harder, people become slothful, which does little good for a country?s economy. In most attempts, past and present, communism has failed economically, whereas democracies have a commendable success rate.

Communism is most widely taken up by Third World countries striving for national independence and sudden social change (Russia, Cuba, and Northern Korea). Forms of democracy however, are usually exercised by countries, which have a long-range goal to succeed, or improve economically (Britain, U.S.A.). Most widely first heard of through Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx?s Communist Manifesto, communism hasn?t been around nearly as long as democracy, which is first known to have existed in the city-states of ancient Greece and Rome.

In theory, everyone is equal in a communist government, however this is not true in many aspects. When only one person controls a communist government, it?s not far off from totalitarianism, as that one voice is the only one that really matters. In a democracy, however, every citizen has an equal say in government. Suffrage rights apply to men and women alike, regardless of race, past education, heritage, etc. Even in ancient Greece and Rome, every citizen could vote individually at an assembly, with a vote from a farmer counting as much as a vote from an artist.

As you can see, Communist and Democratic forms of government are very contrary to each other. As they both have benefits and disadvantages, people continuously argue over the superior choice, despite history.

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you have to admit they did come out with a fine example of a machine with that jet. I don't think it could compete with the F-22 but would be a nice match.
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Well lets just be glad we can see this thing on radar..

Really as i watched it I though great.. I see no attempt at stealth, look they are still developing classic airframes to boot.

Great news... sell them to china also.
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We're already in the 4th World War right now:
WW1 1914-1918 (We won)
WW2 1939-1945 (We won)
WW3 (Cold War) c.1945-c.1991 (we won)
WW4 (Civilisation vs fundamentalist Islam) 1979-20?? (We will win if the whackjob socialists in our own countries don't get their way)
WW5 (China vs Democracies), if it happens, will run most likely concurrently to WW4, unless WW4 is over by then.
IMO, there will not be a war against China. The Chinese will most probably rise up and take democracy from their Communist rulers of their own accord.
funny, but US didn't joing the "party" until 1944 in WW2.. yet "you" won.. typical american political viagara.
Cold war.. how did you win? I believe both countries came to conclusion that whole thing was useless. If it was to start right now there still won't be any winners. Russia can nook the shit out of US.. same goes for United States...
you're pathetic .... sorry...
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That plane is a beauty. I always wanted to be a fighter jet pilot, wonder what happened to that dream.
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funny, but US didn't joing the "party" until 1944 in WW2.. yet "you" won.. typical american political viagara.
Cold war.. how did you win? I believe both countries came to conclusion that whole thing was useless. If it was to start right now there still won't be any winners. Russia can nook the shit out of US.. same goes for United States...
you're pathetic .... sorry...
Yup, Stalin sacrificed millions to fight Germany and both sides were pretty hurt pretty bad. America came in and finished the job.

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