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Sexy,

F-22 and U-35 are different in class.
If F-22 ever comes to life,SU-35 is not in the game. F-22 is 5th generation fighter jet. But it's already inferior.

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my MIG???? 18 and life.. lay off that paint.

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BigFish

How are any of you in the position to say who would win? Pretty bold statements on a subjective question. The SU-35 nor the Raptor have ever been in combat missions. LOL. Have any of you every flown a jet before? Do any of you work in avionics? Are any of you flight engineers? Or do you just google like the majority of everyone else on here. HAH. GFY, home of experts in every field known to man.


On another note, a story about an F-14 encounter which happened about 20 years ago. Imagine what the U.S. is capable of now:

On January 15th, 1986, Khadafi challenges the US Naval forces by sending two MiG-23 Floggers to test the American military and find out how far they could push the US. The MiG's vectored on two A-6 Intruder's, after which the A-6's turned away, and two F-14 Tomcat's on CAP were sent to meet the MiG's head-on. Previous encounters with the Libyan Air Force resulted with the Libyan aircraft turning tail, and returning back to Libyan airspace. This encounter was not going to end so easily. What is probably the most publicized air-combat sequence took place and lasted over 6 minutes, an eternity to the pilots and RIO's flying the two Tomcat's involved in this battle. The end result was still the same, however. US-4, Libya-0.

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OJ was no guilty.
Bush found WMDs
Bill didn't have sexual relatioship.
JFK was a family man.
Your mom wasn't tranny..

shall I go on?

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and.. oh yes. Jessica Lynch shot 3 Iraqi soldiers bfore going down.. was that what they told you?

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BigFish

"Mom jokes" coming from an expert on air warfare on GFY. *Sigh* Please "go on", im going to grab some dinner. I'll check back when I have time kid.

BlingDaddy

LMAO... that's alot of hate... I prefer the F-15 which is largely American, and powered by dual Pratt & Whitney motors... A kick ass plane.

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Doesn't matter where the Tech comes from

Brief History
White Sands Proving Grounds was established in July 1945. It combined the existing ORDCIT Firing Ranges, the Alamogordo Bombing Range, and large tracts of both private and public lands. Even today, the range is speckled with the abandoned ranch houses and windmills of a bygone era. There are also several old abandoned silver and gold mines near the Gap Site of the Sierra Oscura.
White Sands Proving Grounds was later renamed to White Sands Missile Range, or WSMR (pronounced "Whiz-Mer" by nearby residents). The range occupies a somewhat rectangular strip of land, some 40 miles wide (east-west) and 100 miles long (north-south). It is the largest military installation in the United States. This strip of New Mexico desert has been in use since the 40's to test practically every weapon system in the U.S. military arsenal. Pioneering research in rocket technology shortly after World War II at WSMR helped propel the U.S. into space. Because of this, WSMR is sometimes known as the "Birthplace of the Race to Space".

Birthplace of the Race to Space
In the early part of this century, Robert Goddard began experimentation with liquid fuel rocket engines in New Mexico. Although his work was largely ignored in this country, a group of German space enthuasiasts used his work as a starting point in a quest to build a rocket capable of reaching outer space. The German group included a young scientist, Wernher von Braun, who was later to play a key role in establishing the Space Age.

Prior to World War II, the German group built several small to medium sized liquid fuel rockets. During this development, they developed fundamental guidance and control systems. These guidance and control systems are key elements of rocket technology, and allow missiles and rockets to accurately arrive at their intended targets. This technology would later be refined to form the foundation of guidance systems in the V-2 rocket of World War II and every missile and rocket built in this century.

Prior to World War II, the German government was prohibited from building long-distance artillery. Because of these restrictions, the German military establishment was interested in systems capable of delivering ordinance over long distances. Seeing the progress of Wernher von Braun and his group with rocket technology, the German military establishment enlisted von Braun and his group to develop a large rocket system to deliver "payloads" over hundreds of miles. World War II broke out, and von Braun soon found himself running a large development project. Their work produced the V-2 rocket, a system capable of lofting hundreds of pounds of explosives in a ballistic trajectory reaching into space and then landing across the English channel with an accuracy of approximately one mile. The technology developed in this program would fuel the space programs of the United States and the Soviet Union in the late 1950s and early 1960s. It, unfortunately, would also be used by these two superpowers to design rockets capable of delivering nuclear death anywhere on the planet and play a part in the Cold War.

Across a cold ocean to the Warm New Mexico Desert
Fearing capture by advancing Soviet troops, key members of the German V-2 rocket design team defected to the United States near the end of World War II. Leading this group of defecting scientists was Dr. Wernher von Braun who is widely known as "the father of the V-2". Along with this group of talented scientists, the United States also captured a couple of dozen intact V-2 rockets, which were crated and shipped back to the United States before the advancing Soviet army captured and occupied the German rocket development center. The Soviets would enlist the remaining engineers and scientists to start their own rocket development program.

The group of German scientists defecting to the U.S. and their captured V-2 rockets would form the core of a new rocket design community in the United States. This team would split time between design and research outside of Huntsville, Alabama and testing and evaluation at Whites Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico. The twin engine aircraft used to shuttle Wernher von Braun between Huntsville and White Sands is on display at Missile Park.

In an at best "uneasy" alliance after the war, the German scientists lead by Dr. von Braun and their U.S. colleagues began a series of experiments and test firings of V-2 rockets under the supervision of the U.S. Army at White Sands Proving Grounds in the desert of Southern New Mexico. The knowledge acquired through this program lead directly to the Redstone rocket program, and every other rocket developed in the United States since. Although designed for military purposes, the Redstone rocket propelled the first U.S. astronaut, Alan Shepard, to space. Other significant accomplishments of this team include the design of the Apollo V rocket first stage which helped send U.S. astronauts to the moon.

http://www.vivanewmexico.com/sw.wsmr.html

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BlingDaddy

LMAO.....


Hey MOCKBA..... You're planes sucked.... They were copies to the tee of US fighters... Only... not as good. Kinda like the tanks Iraq "had".


Das Vidanya BIIIIATCH....

Poka!
Bling!

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Nice!

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samuel

beautiful F-22.. in the other hand, you can find impressive migs nowadays... don't under estimate russian air force

Samuel

stembolt

fuk when are the russians
gonna build the "firefox"
now that would be very kool!

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That's awesome pic!

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I?m going to shit myself! Russians the one that copied US planes? Out of all countries that participated in WW2 was #1 at stealing German technology and harboring entire nazi R&D teams? The atomic bomb, rockets.. you name it?
Where did you get the idea that Mig design was stolen?

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VeriSexy

Mig design was not stolen, only thing was they needed a powerful engine and they got that from Rolls Royce

"The introduction of the MiG-15 was a total (nasty) surprise to the NATO air groups, somewhat comparable to the surprise the Allies received when the Japanese A6M Zero-Sen made its appearance a few years before, during WWII. The Mig-15 was developed under the utmost security. The Soviet philosophy was; if another country could achieve military superiority, sooner or later it was bound attack Russia, just as the Nazis had on June 22, 1941. Under Stalin, military weapons research had high priority and the secrecy involved was deadly serious. Anyone even suspected of the slightest security violation was tortured and executed. The KGB was listening. Thus, the MiG-15 - arguably the worlds best fighter aircraft at the time - was produced in near total secrecy."

"While the Soviets were having their developmental problems, the British on the other hand seemed to be years ahead of everyone. The Jumo and BMW engines the Russians had captured in Germany were rather primitive when compared to England's Rolls-Royce jet engines in the late part of 1945. And just as it appeared the rest of the world was about to leave the Soviets far behind in the race for a more practical jet engine, fortune truly smiled on the Reds. "

http://www.aviation-history.com/mikoyan/mig15.html

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