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AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:28 PM

I got this email today from lotzadollars.com with the FROM header saying "CCBILL affiliates". I never joined their program, but I do have an account with CC Bill. CC Bill must be selling webmaster email addresses. Anyone else get this email from lotzadollars?

David! · 07-10-2004, 03:29 PM

It's their newsletter, I get it all the time.

BVF · 07-10-2004, 03:29 PM

I don't know

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:32 PM

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It's their newsletter, I get it all the time.

Whose newsletter? I've never gotten a newsletter from CC Bill and I joined over a year ago.

SteveLightspeed · 07-10-2004, 03:35 PM

Lol, how can you prove that?

Don't you think CCBILL would be much less motivated to sell email addresses than a small sponsor program who has access to the same info? Could you imagine the damage CCbills reputation would suffer? Do you really think they'd be willing to risk that for the small money that they would make from selling lists? We're talking CCBILL here, not IBILL!

If someone "sold" it --- look at the most likely suspects before you instantly blame CCbill!

Steve Lightspeed

Quickdraw · 07-10-2004, 03:39 PM

They have been either selling or losing their database for some time now.
Next time you buy something through ccbill use an original mail address specifically for that purchase.
I have done it 3-4 times and within 2-3 months the emails are getting spammed.
It was originally brought to my attention by a customer that did just the above, so I tried..

ccbill has never ever returned emails questioning this.

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:39 PM

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Lol, how can you prove that? Don't you think CCBILL would be much less motivated to sell email addresses than a small sponsor program who has access to the same info? Could you imagine the damage CCbills reputation would suffer? Do you really think they'd be willing to risk that for the small money that they would make from selling lists? We're talking CCBILL here, not IBILL! If someone "sold" it --- look at the most likely suspects before you instantly blame CCbill!

Well, CC Bill was in the header. How more "likely" can that be for ya? -lol.

I haven't put the blame on anyone yet. I forwarded the email to CC Bill just a second ago to get some answers.

primazo · 07-10-2004, 03:41 PM

You're right.
Just got the same mail from this Lotzadollars.com as a CCBill afilliate and i did'nt ever sign up with these guys.

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:42 PM

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You're right. Just got the same mail from this Lotzadollars.com as a CCBill afilliate and i did'nt ever sign up with these guys.

I've never even heard of them before this email. Who are they?

diesel · 07-10-2004, 03:44 PM

LOL .. You never knew it ?
Its on their website offered for sale and the list updated daily ..

SteveLightspeed · 07-10-2004, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by CollegeSucks
Well, CC Bill was in the header. How more "likely" can that be for ya? -lol.

I haven't put the blame on anyone yet. I forwarded the email to CC Bill just a second ago.

Damn, that's about as stupid as saving the murder weapon as a souvenir!

Good luck solving your mystery Scooby-Doo....
"And he would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!"

Steve Lightspeed

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by diz
LOL .. You never knew it ?
Its on their website offered for sale and the list updated daily ..

Where?

sixxxth_sense · 07-10-2004, 03:47 PM

I would fucking 2! Its business guys grow up!

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 03:49 PM

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I would fucking 2! Its business guys grow up!

Huh?

diesel · 07-10-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by CollegeSucks
Where?

It was a joke

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by diz
It was a joke

Sorry, I'm too literal at times.

dougeetx · 07-10-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by CollegeSucks
I've never even heard of them before this email. Who are they?

Lotzadollars are the same people that run lotzatraffic and have the toplists of lotzainterracial, etc.

Pornopat · 07-10-2004, 05:09 PM

I received one.
Did you see the funny thing at the bottom?

"To be unsubscribed from the CCBILL affiliates mailing list, simply click on the link below:"

followed by....absolutely nothing!

serious · 07-10-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Pornopat
I received one.
Did you see the funny thing at the bottom?

"To be unsubscribed from the CCBILL affiliates mailing list, simply click on the link below:"

followed by....absolutely nothing!

I got this email as well, to an email I made up for my ccbill account only.

theres a link below that but its colored the same as the green background.

Global Dialers · 07-10-2004, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
If someone "sold" it --- look at the most likely suspects before you instantly blame CCbill!

if someone sold it th list must have come from ccbill so who else is to blame or did someone hack into the email database

if their database was hacked that then [present even more problems for ccbill than simply saying that they sold the email list or even rented it out

Lange · 07-10-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Quickdraw
They have been either selling or losing their database for some time now.
Next time you buy something through ccbill use an original mail address specifically for that purchase.
I have done it 3-4 times and within 2-3 months the emails are getting spammed.
It was originally brought to my attention by a customer that did just the above, so I tried..

ccbill has never ever returned emails questioning this.

Perhaps the website you signed up to sold or traded their list to another program...Webmasters do trade their lists...

garett · 07-10-2004, 05:24 PM

I'm glad it's not just me. I got the same mail and thought I may have signed up with them and forgotten about it .. lol .. but looking at their websites they've got stuff that I would never promote .. so I was very confused.

This really pisses me off. This is the 3rd spam mail I've gotten this month that point to sponsors as the culprit >=|

Pornopat · 07-10-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by serious
I got this email as well, to an email I made up for my ccbill account only.

theres a link below that but its colored the same as the green background.

woow you are right...
you can only see it though if you select it...

some silly tricks!

bigdog · 07-10-2004, 05:34 PM

I got the same email, i was going to make a post about it. I have visited their site but i never signed up for their program

Pipecrew · 07-10-2004, 06:02 PM

I suppose nobody can forge headers, because that is extremely hard? I will send you some emails from the FBI.gov in a sec.

dunefield · 07-10-2004, 06:05 PM

i got some e-mail from lotza dollars about traffic or something... STOP SPAMMING!!!

thatjen · 07-10-2004, 06:08 PM

I got the email too and am not signed up with their program. However I have some listings on the Lotza topsites, so I assumed they just got my email from that database, unless the two sites are not the same company. I don't care because that's just one of about 300 spams I get a day.

I highly doubt CCBill would sell their email database, but it would be simple for an employee working there (or at any place that collects email addresses) to do so. Who knows

candyflip · 07-10-2004, 06:12 PM

I am signed up for their program and didn't get any email

DatingGold · 07-10-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Lol, how can you prove that?

Don't you think CCBILL would be much less motivated to sell email addresses than a small sponsor program who has access to the same info? Could you imagine the damage CCbills reputation would suffer? Do you really think they'd be willing to risk that for the small money that they would make from selling lists? We're talking CCBILL here, not IBILL!

If someone "sold" it --- look at the most likely suspects before you instantly blame CCbill!

Steve Lightspeed

So you really think CCBill processes more than Ibill?

jscott · 07-10-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip
I am signed up for their program and didn't get any email

i'm opposite

i am not signed up with their program and i do get their emails

ldinternet · 07-10-2004, 06:38 PM

When you signup to any webmaster program under CCBill, the program owner can see your email, export the list of webmaster emails, etc. If anything, you've signed up with a CCBill partnership program, and the program owner has sold, traded or given away your address. I doubt that CCBill has anything to do with it.

That said, I got the email... and hit the "Block" button right away.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 06:47 PM

199.236.5.34 where email originates

http://listserver.purewebpower.com/
easyonlinesolutions.com

http://www.lotzadollars.com

http://www.watchourwives.com

Abyss_Vee · 07-10-2004, 06:49 PM

just delete it

Lace · 07-10-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Damn, that's about as stupid as saving the murder weapon as a souvenir!

Good luck solving your mystery Scooby-Doo....
"And he would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!"

Steve Lightspeed

scooby doo rawks.

pornguy · 07-10-2004, 06:54 PM

Hey guys, before you go pointing a finger at ccbill, ( who could crush you in court for slander)

my neighbor got that e-mail and does not even work in the industry. He is in construction. And I am sure that ccbill is NOT doing cards for him...

cherrylula · 07-10-2004, 06:55 PM

If you've ever pushed sweetcamgirl.com that is one of their sites and they might have your email from that.

Her site was not a part of the program in the past but I think they've used her webmaster list to send out newsletters.

It makes sense that she would keep their webmasters up to date like that imo.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 06:58 PM

it wasn't ccbill, that would so stupid of them 2 sell emails it ain't funny.

JasonB · 07-10-2004, 07:01 PM

I got the same email.

I'm guessing it's some other program that I signed up for & now they're starting a new program

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 07:11 PM

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who could crush you in court for slander

I'll be waiting. I have no problem with filing a counter suit.

Donny · 07-10-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
So you really think CCBill processes more than Ibill?

Absolutely.

punker barbie · 07-10-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
just delete it

EXACTLY!

i dont beleive CCBill is selling webmaster e-mail address. Just delete it and move on. Dont act like its your first time getting bullshit e-mails.

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 07:33 PM

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EXACTLY! i dont beleive CCBill is selling webmaster e-mail address. Just delete it and move on. Dont act like its your first time getting bullshit e-mails.

I get them all the time, but this one said it was from "CCBILL affiliates". First time I got one with that.

Donny · 07-10-2004, 07:33 PM

As another person in this thread explained, it was most likely another program that you DID sign up for that sold their list. Duh.

punker barbie · 07-10-2004, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by CollegeSucks
I get them all the time, but this one said it was from "CCBILL affiliates". First time I got one with that.

am i missing something? do you mean to tell me that you got a e-mail that said in the subject line "CCBill Affiliates"? So what? People can SPOOF anything.....

punker barbie · 07-10-2004, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
As another person in this thread explained, it was most likely another program that you DID sign up for that sold their list. Duh.

Agreed!

AdPatron · 07-10-2004, 07:50 PM

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As another person in this thread explained, it was most likely another program that you DID sign up for that sold their list. Duh.

That is why I posted here to find out. I'm not a newbie -lol. Even a noob can forge headers.

Brad Mitchell · 07-11-2004, 02:20 PM

They're on our network, not as a direct hosting customer but as a customer of another hosting company that we provide bandwidth to. I too got the email along with other friends of mine and I don't *think* any of us are current affiliates or participating in the toplists, etc.

Rest assured, we will get to the bottom of these mailings. That being said, there's no need to lodge a SpamCop complaint or anything else similar as we're already responding to those. We don't allow unsolicited email from our network, everybody knows that.

Sincerely,

Brad

Bigjohn · 07-11-2004, 04:28 PM

The lottza guys run toplists and tgps. Ever submit a gallery via RS or AS? If so, that's where they got it.

beemk · 07-11-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by primazo
You're right.
Just got the same mail from this Lotzadollars.com as a CCBill afilliate and i did'nt ever sign up with these guys.

AdPatron · 07-12-2004, 01:52 AM

ANyone else?

07-10-2004, 03:28 PM	#1
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	CC Bill is selling webmaster email addresses I got this email today from lotzadollars.com with the FROM header saying "CCBILL affiliates". I never joined their program, but I do have an account with CC Bill. CC Bill must be selling webmaster email addresses. Anyone else get this email from lotzadollars?

07-10-2004, 03:29 PM	#2
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07-10-2004, 03:35 PM	#5
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Lol, how can you prove that? Don't you think CCBILL would be much less motivated to sell email addresses than a small sponsor program who has access to the same info? Could you imagine the damage CCbills reputation would suffer? Do you really think they'd be willing to risk that for the small money that they would make from selling lists? We're talking CCBILL here, not IBILL! If someone "sold" it --- look at the most likely suspects before you instantly blame CCbill! Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

07-10-2004, 05:09 PM	#18
Pornopat AdultTubeSubmits.com Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 10,598	I received one. Did you see the funny thing at the bottom? "To be unsubscribed from the CCBILL affiliates mailing list, simply click on the link below:" followed by....absolutely nothing! __________________ https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

07-10-2004, 03:39 PM	#6
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	They have been either selling or losing their database for some time now. Next time you buy something through ccbill use an original mail address specifically for that purchase. I have done it 3-4 times and within 2-3 months the emails are getting spammed. It was originally brought to my attention by a customer that did just the above, so I tried.. ccbill has never ever returned emails questioning this.

07-10-2004, 03:41 PM	#8
primazo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 17	You're right. Just got the same mail from this Lotzadollars.com as a CCBill afilliate and i did'nt ever sign up with these guys.

07-10-2004, 03:44 PM	#10
diesel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,097	LOL .. You never knew it ? Its on their website offered for sale and the list updated daily ..

07-10-2004, 03:47 PM	#13
sixxxth_sense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,430	I would fucking 2! Its business guys grow up!

07-10-2004, 05:24 PM	#22
garett Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 683	I'm glad it's not just me. I got the same mail and thought I may have signed up with them and forgotten about it .. lol .. but looking at their websites they've got stuff that I would never promote .. so I was very confused. This really pisses me off. This is the 3rd spam mail I've gotten this month that point to sponsors as the culprit >=\| __________________

07-10-2004, 05:34 PM	#24
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	I got the same email, i was going to make a post about it. I have visited their site but i never signed up for their program

07-10-2004, 06:02 PM	#25
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	I suppose nobody can forge headers, because that is extremely hard? I will send you some emails from the FBI.gov in a sec.

07-10-2004, 06:05 PM	#26
dunefield www.barely18movies.com Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,920	i got some e-mail from lotza dollars about traffic or something... STOP SPAMMING!!! __________________

07-10-2004, 06:08 PM	#27
thatjen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 290	I got the email too and am not signed up with their program. However I have some listings on the Lotza topsites, so I assumed they just got my email from that database, unless the two sites are not the same company. I don't care because that's just one of about 300 spams I get a day. I highly doubt CCBill would sell their email database, but it would be simple for an employee working there (or at any place that collects email addresses) to do so. Who knows

07-10-2004, 06:12 PM	#28
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	I am signed up for their program and didn't get any email __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

07-10-2004, 06:38 PM	#31
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	When you signup to any webmaster program under CCBill, the program owner can see your email, export the list of webmaster emails, etc. If anything, you've signed up with a CCBill partnership program, and the program owner has sold, traded or given away your address. I doubt that CCBill has anything to do with it. That said, I got the email... and hit the "Block" button right away.

07-10-2004, 06:47 PM	#32
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	199.236.5.34 where email originates http://listserver.purewebpower.com/ easyonlinesolutions.com http://www.lotzadollars.com http://www.watchourwives.com __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

07-10-2004, 06:49 PM	#33
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07-10-2004, 06:54 PM	#35
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07-10-2004, 06:55 PM	#36
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	If you've ever pushed sweetcamgirl.com that is one of their sites and they might have your email from that. Her site was not a part of the program in the past but I think they've used her webmaster list to send out newsletters. It makes sense that she would keep their webmasters up to date like that imo.

07-10-2004, 06:58 PM	#37
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07-10-2004, 07:01 PM	#38
JasonB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,183	I got the same email. I'm guessing it's some other program that I signed up for & now they're starting a new program

07-10-2004, 07:33 PM	#43
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	As another person in this thread explained, it was most likely another program that you DID sign up for that sold their list. Duh.

07-11-2004, 02:20 PM	#47
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	They're on our network, not as a direct hosting customer but as a customer of another hosting company that we provide bandwidth to. I too got the email along with other friends of mine and I don't think any of us are current affiliates or participating in the toplists, etc. Rest assured, we will get to the bottom of these mailings. That being said, there's no need to lodge a SpamCop complaint or anything else similar as we're already responding to those. We don't allow unsolicited email from our network, everybody knows that. Sincerely, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

07-11-2004, 04:28 PM	#48
Bigjohn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Deep inside my mind Posts: 1,118	The lottza guys run toplists and tgps. Ever submit a gallery via RS or AS? If so, that's where they got it.

07-12-2004, 01:52 AM	#50
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	ANyone else?