end of Niche Pay Sites ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Just J · 07-10-2004, 06:37 AM

I see that programs close their niche pay sites and open only reality.

Every month I see less new niche pay sites ?

Is this end of pay niche sites ?

Jakke PNG · 07-10-2004, 06:45 AM

Dirty F · 07-10-2004, 07:03 AM

Uhm ok

Just J · 07-10-2004, 07:06 AM

sooooo many opinions ;) heh

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 07:08 AM

Manowar · 07-10-2004, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
No

Exactly.

Vitasoy · 07-10-2004, 07:14 AM

No, but it's the attack of the reality sites!

Just J · 07-10-2004, 07:14 AM

that`s right Vitasoy!!

Dirty F · 07-10-2004, 07:16 AM

Also of every 10 sites that are claimed to be a reality site only 1 might actually be a reality site. People seem to confuse a simple hardcore shoot with reality content. All these content providers just use the word because its popular right now and it seems to work. Just say it enough and people will believe it.

Jakke PNG · 07-10-2004, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Also of every 10 sites that are claimed to be a reality site only 1 might actually be a reality site. People seem to confuse a simple hardcore shoot with reality content. All these content providers just use the word because its popular right now and it seems to work. Just say it enough and people will believe it.

Yeah,
when a site has screencapsin the tour from all of their videos inside.. it's not a reality site

Most people to whom I've talked to seem to consider these as reality sites.. regardless of the actual content.

Phoenix · 07-10-2004, 07:38 AM

nope..our niche sites are kicking ass , and will continue to do so.

We are of course going to enter the reality ring, but id never give up those niche sales, they are just too sweet.

BVF · 07-10-2004, 07:54 AM

I'm one of the only ones with a "niche reality" site

Snake Doctor · 07-10-2004, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Just J

Is this end of pay niche sites ?

No its just the end of niche paysites with no content in them.

A few years ago every major program started rolling out all these "niche sites" which were basically niche tours that went to the same members area as all their other sites.

Obviously the retention on them sucked, but you could make money on them with the right combination of pre-checked cross sells and upsells in the members areas, plus now you had an email address to spam the hell out of.

With Visa's new 1% rules and the "sexually explicit brown wrapper" can-spam rules that business model is dead, and people are closing sites that don't have the content inside to retain members.

Adultnet · 07-10-2004, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Vitasoy
No, but it's the attack of the reality sites!

yes it looks so... hope it wont over flood the market

Just J · 07-10-2004, 09:31 AM

hey, thanks, your opinions about future of niche pay sites are great,

niche sites have to be niche sites not only the name

i think exclusive niche content is the key

NoCarrier · 07-10-2004, 09:36 AM

Yup, leave the porn business now before it's too late.

wyldblyss · 07-10-2004, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Just J
hey, thanks, your opinions about future of niche pay sites are great,

niche sites have to be niche sites not only the name

i think exclusive niche content is the key

I think they need to be a combination of both. Exclusive costs big bucks and your average surfer wants a ton of content. So the exclusive makes your site unique but it is the non-exclusive that fills the site up enough where they believe they are getting their monies worth.

Just J · 07-10-2004, 09:43 AM

good point wyldblyss

Sarah_Jayne · 07-10-2004, 09:51 AM

no...maybe for big programs but those of us that know the niches very well will benefit from that.

emthree · 07-10-2004, 11:17 AM

niche this niche that
there's allways a new niche in the hat

body · 07-10-2004, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Also of every 10 sites that are claimed to be a reality site only 1 might actually be a reality site. People seem to confuse a simple hardcore shoot with reality content. All these content providers just use the word because its popular right now and it seems to work. Just say it enough and people will believe it.

true

ZanyCash Larry · 07-10-2004, 11:19 AM

Niche reality

Niche sites will always do well.

Jill_J · 07-10-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by ZanyCash Larry
Niche sites will always do well.

agree

HarlotCash Dyker · 07-10-2004, 11:55 AM

Niche dying? Like fuck - Niche is where the big cash is...

We are launching a balloon fetish reality site today - No kidding.

blazin · 07-10-2004, 01:14 PM

Its all niche reality now it seems..

I ain't complaining tho'... sales are rocking

SykkBoy · 07-10-2004, 03:15 PM

It's because most of the morons opening niche sites don't know or understand the niche...

DWB · 07-10-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
It's because most of the morons opening niche sites don't know or understand the niche...

Amen. Like when they say a scene is a "creampie" and the guy pulls out and blows on her pussy, not in it.

alan-l · 07-10-2004, 03:36 PM

Niche dying? Are you serious? Not only that you can combine niche and reality, but this is the best time to have your own paysites, exclusive content is dirt cheap, non exclusive is a little expensive when compared to exclusive, but still good price, design is 1/4 of what it was 2-3 years ago... even paying VISA fees there was no time like this, specially for niche sites, people is killing to discover new niches to make paysites!

HarlotCash Dyker · 07-10-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
It's because most of the morons opening niche sites don't know or understand the niche...

Disagree:
Most people starting a niche site nowadays have a damn site more insite into the niche than you think - They simply do not have the cash nor the marketing expertese to back it up

detoxed · 07-10-2004, 04:02 PM

Yes, within 1 year no niche sites will exist

FlyingIguana · 07-10-2004, 04:05 PM

we need niche reality sites

and naked female sports leagues

Mutt · 07-10-2004, 04:08 PM

those niche sites you see dying are dying for exactly the reason Lenny gave you. If you want to do a tranny site, midget site, goth, housewives, whatever - you better have some great content that is exactly what that niche surfer has in his head he wants or he's gone - the only conversions and retention you'll have is the 10% who joined the site and forgot to cancel.

angelsofporn · 07-10-2004, 04:42 PM

everyone is getting into the paysite game now..and now is the hardest time to get into it..to make any money at all you have to spend a minimum of 40k on content to start a paysite that will hold members for more than 2 days.and the competition is just getting feircer

zentz · 07-10-2004, 06:38 PM

bigdog · 07-10-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
everyone is getting into the paysite game now..and now is the hardest time to get into it..to make any money at all you have to spend a minimum of 40k on content to start a paysite that will hold members for more than 2 days.and the competition is just getting feircer

10 scenes at 2k each is only 20k .I have seen a lot of sites only start out with 10 scenes, some even less.

Morgan · 07-10-2004, 07:33 PM

reality or not. if its exclusive and the girls are hot (or guys in some cases) and the quality is good... you're golden.

Personally, I dont dig the reality thing.. i would rather just cut the bs.

slavdogg · 07-10-2004, 08:16 PM

where there is some truth to that

as of late there is a serious lack of good niche sites in good PPS programs. Ever since ARS when down.

alan-l · 07-10-2004, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
everyone is getting into the paysite game now..and now is the hardest time to get into it..to make any money at all you have to spend a minimum of 40k on content to start a paysite that will hold members for more than 2 days.and the competition is just getting feircer

07-10-2004, 06:37 AM	#1
Just J Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 209	end of Niche Pay Sites ? I see that programs close their niche pay sites and open only reality. Every month I see less new niche pay sites ? Is this end of pay niche sites ?

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Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	nope..our niche sites are kicking ass , and will continue to do so. We are of course going to enter the reality ring, but id never give up those niche sales, they are just too sweet. __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Uhm ok

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Just J Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 209	sooooo many opinions ;) heh

07-10-2004, 07:16 AM	#9
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Also of every 10 sites that are claimed to be a reality site only 1 might actually be a reality site. People seem to confuse a simple hardcore shoot with reality content. All these content providers just use the word because its popular right now and it seems to work. Just say it enough and people will believe it.

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07-10-2004, 09:31 AM	#15
Just J Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 209	hey, thanks, your opinions about future of niche pay sites are great, niche sites have to be niche sites not only the name i think exclusive niche content is the key

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NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Yup, leave the porn business now before it's too late. __________________

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Just J Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 209	good point wyldblyss

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	no...maybe for big programs but those of us that know the niches very well will benefit from that.

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HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Niche dying? Like fuck - Niche is where the big cash is... We are launching a balloon fetish reality site today - No kidding. __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

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blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	Its all niche reality now it seems.. I ain't complaining tho'... sales are rocking __________________ I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	It's because most of the morons opening niche sites don't know or understand the niche... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	Niche dying? Are you serious? Not only that you can combine niche and reality, but this is the best time to have your own paysites, exclusive content is dirt cheap, non exclusive is a little expensive when compared to exclusive, but still good price, design is 1/4 of what it was 2-3 years ago... even paying VISA fees there was no time like this, specially for niche sites, people is killing to discover new niches to make paysites!

07-10-2004, 04:02 PM	#30
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Yes, within 1 year no niche sites will exist

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	we need niche reality sites and naked female sports leagues

07-10-2004, 04:08 PM	#32
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	those niche sites you see dying are dying for exactly the reason Lenny gave you. If you want to do a tranny site, midget site, goth, housewives, whatever - you better have some great content that is exactly what that niche surfer has in his head he wants or he's gone - the only conversions and retention you'll have is the 10% who joined the site and forgot to cancel.

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angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	everyone is getting into the paysite game now..and now is the hardest time to get into it..to make any money at all you have to spend a minimum of 40k on content to start a paysite that will hold members for more than 2 days.and the competition is just getting feircer

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Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	reality or not. if its exclusive and the girls are hot (or guys in some cases) and the quality is good... you're golden. Personally, I dont dig the reality thing.. i would rather just cut the bs. __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com

07-10-2004, 08:16 PM	#37
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	where there is some truth to that as of late there is a serious lack of good niche sites in good PPS programs. Ever since ARS when down.