Well Palestinians leave in the Israeli state and have equal rights as Jews or even more.... Regarding the settlemeant the Israeli government want to remove them at all and separate from the authority. :winkwink:

Can't we all just get along? :glugglug

Turn the switch on ... please ...

So, to follow YOUR point , you would find normal if 37% only of americans lived in the US, or 37% of Canadians in Canada, or 37% of British...

So, why 63% of the Jews not living in Israrl, mainly after you saying how great it is... and wanting a country for so long?

i love when the kids bring up POST count

notice noone did but him, but hey I come here to pick on guys with small post counts.

HAHAHAH

hate filled?

nah, disgust for the human race cannot be mistaken for hate

Sad when ya look and see the low level of comment and quibbling over "statistics" :winkwink:

It's not really a "point" if there is 1 or 10 million - the principle is the same.

I can assume that this part of the calculation is correct but the budget can not be real.

No, the Israeli government isn't going to remove them all, we both know it and the wall is an excuse to keep expanding and taking more and more of Palestinian territory.

Are you for real? 60 years ago the place was a fucking barren waste land! If you were dropped into Tel-Aviv, you couldn't tell it apart from any other major urban city across the world...

I can even believe I have to say this...I was not comparing Israel to the US, the GDP of the US is 3 times higher then then the next highest in the world....

But, all things considered, the progress Israel has made in terms of economic development is nothing short of amazing...if you have any understanding and knowledge of economics, as a study, you would not dare dispute that.

Israel has one of the most advanaced high-tech sectors in the world....the country if a little over 60 years old! Before you respond to this, take a few minutes to read this, then re-read it and actually consider how amazing it is that people turned a desert into an industrial powerhouse in 60 years.

well the rest was not born there im sure that if you will analyze the number of the Jews that were born in Israel and decide to leave it for other country you will find the numbers that are smellier to reality.

incorrect.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/11062.pdf

"US has annually given 3 billion to Israel" since 1985.

in addition to the 3, israel gets 1 billion "through philanthropy, and another 1 billion in Israel bonds"
read the first paragraph!

"Israel is not economically self-sufficient and relies on foreign assistance and money to maintain."

you think I make this shit up?????

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/11062.pdf

its all there if you willing to read

How old are you...

Visit this site. Here is the official budget of Israel for the year 2000:

http://www.mof.gov.il/bud00e_fr.htm

And if FletchXXX figures are not true, were are yours?

I ALWAYS use facts to back my shit up, ;) you know that.

its here

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/11062.pdf

.gov fuckers

Amazing...

http://www.restore.co.il/images2003/ramat-gan.jpg
Its not telaviv but an israeli city (ramatgan)

Re-read what??? Your post !!!!

Go read what Israel gets in help, the re-read your post.

You called me a newbie! How is that not making reference to post count! I was responding to you calling me a newbie! Or, am I to assume that you were refering to something OTHER then my post count....

If you are so disgusted with the human race, leave us! Simple as that...shit or get off the pot buddy!

That wall is fucking useless! the sucide bombers will find a way to get in! Meanwhile it keeps all the harmless Palestinians out!:2 cents:

Yes you are wrong. If the majority of Muslims don't believe that they should kill polytheists and atheists then they are not Muslim. It is a requirement of being a Muslim to believe in the Qu'ran absolutely. ANd like I said, it is a book of the ultimate laws for manking for ALL TIME (not just when Muhammad was alive). About 300 million out of 1.2 billion "Muslims" are actually Muslim. The rest are known as "munafiq", or hypocrites, and are on Osama's hitlist just the same as you and me. When Muslims aren't fighting the infidel they are fighting each other - "I'm more of a Muslim than you", Sunni vs Shia vs Ahmadiya vs etc.

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So I'm guessing the fact that he says he's there to accomplish biblical prophecies is just a joke?

Hardly a joke. He just says whatever he has to at the time to retain his power and support. He is a politician, and not a particularly honest one.

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For some reason you sound like one of those crazy white Christian militas in the south of the US.

Well that's just your fucked-up perception. Change it.

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It's not a defensive war.

You are joking right? Are you saying that it wasn't the Arabs who invaded Israel but that Israel invaded them in 1948, 1967 and 1974?

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It's a non-democratic Jewish state. They're called a Jewish state because it's a state that won't let non-Jews have a majority of the vote.

You're an idiot. I've told you twice already that it's a parliamentary democracy. Go look here in the CIA factbook and scroll down to the type of Government. The reason that the Arabs (Muslims) could not be given more than 50% of the vote is that they would vote NOT to have a parliament, which would be pretty fucking undemocratic I would say. There is no democracy in Islam, only rule by the Caliph (Islamic Dictator). That is why a balance must be maintained so that Israel does not become an Islamic dictatorship.

There is support but the numbers at this site can't be correct.

yeah of course they cant.

this is exactly why you cant have a conversation with the highschool boys on this board.

I hate when summer is here, boards are filled with these kids who wont even believe a fucking stat from a gov site.

if anything THEY GET MORE THAN THE GOV IS TELLING US.

some of you are totally clueless.

anyway, there is no need to post facts when you kids cant even accept them.

run along kid,

You clearly lack analytical skills...do you bother reading your posts? Which of my own (easy) questions could I not find an answer to?

ok right... true

anyways, just keep sending America footage, we LOVE watching people die.
we live for the news!!!
MORE DEATH

MORE DEAD KIDS

ENTERTAIN US DAMNIT!!!!

Almost all Jews lived outside of Israel (seeing as Israel didn't exist). Most of those (who weren't murdered by Hitler) are settled where they are. Is there a law stating that you have to live in Israel if you are a Jew? Lol.
Maybe all Jews will go and live in Israel and maybe they won't, but there's nmo reason why they should at present. There are hundreds of thousands of British Jews who stay in this country because............. they are British. Jewish doesn't mean Israeli. Turn the fuckin switch on dude.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Excuse me, I have to pee ...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


PS: before I am back, maybe you could find the " true" numbers ... unless you claim that such aid doesn't exist... lol

You seem more like a paranoïd guy to me. The majority of Christians don't do exactly what the bible says either, you can call them not true Christians and call the Muslims not true Muslims, the fact remains that most of them are people just like you and me who aren't terribly excited about killing infidels. You on the other hand seem quite excited to kill them.

Why exactly would he say such a thing to retain his power?

It was Israel that took Palestinian's land. Whatever they did as a result was in self-defense.

I know what it is. If my country said that non-Christians aren't allowed to get more than 50% of the vote then I wouldn't call my country a democracy.

BINGO!

that is why this whole fucking " we need a country" is bullshit... That is why there is no such thing as a " Christian State".... Christian live in many countries ( as well as muslims, buddhists, ...). There is no need for a country bases on a religion... That is why this mess exists... because Israel does.

Countries are based on race and ethnies.

ethnics AND common history and allot of other factors , nationalism.

Not only do you get your kicks belittling people who have low post counts, but you also get the same thrill calling people KIDS when you have no idea how old I am....You are probably older then I am but it is clear that you don't operate at an equivelent intelectual level...

Also, Your buddy Directfiesta tell has the audasity (which means 'the nerve', 'chootspa', or 'the balls', if you will) to write how he believes I never went to college...

If you are so smart, Fletch, please tell him that the Catholic church rules the Vatican. He was not even aware that it existed.

I call it like i see it.

i get the "you have a high post count" line daily guy, cry like a kid, i call you one.

whine about my post count like a fucking little clueless idiot kid and i call it.

i post to get a rise out of people and as it seems, I AM DOING GOOD WITH YOU

quote me some more. reply. bump this!

MORE DEAD KIDS POR FAVOR.

You are think you are really smart, huh? Yes, Israel does get more money then the other arab nations from the US.

Israel is not sitting on black gold like all most of the other arab nations. Money is essential for economic development...Israel gets a lot of it from the US, the arab nations get it from oil...

Consider, now, that Israel and the arab nations both have money. Why is it, then, that Israel is THE industrial powerhouse of the area?

Israel certainly does not get more money from the US the the arabs get from oil...Israel is obviously doing something right...

Again, historically, the jews took BACK their land from Israel. This is established fact. Anyone who believes otherwise, choses to remain ingnorant in light of established fact.

Yeah, whatever. Let's just all do that and redraw the borders like they where a thousand years ago. We all want our land back :)

You MUST be well educated! LOL !

Duuuuhhh...me did good in da English


At the end of the day, buddy, I don't harbour any resentment towards ingnorant people. Academically, I have background in Finance and Psychology. I address ignorant people the same way I addressed the mentally Ill - with kindness and compassion. Have a wonderful day buddy...try to be a little more positive and optimistic - they say you will live longer.

in exchange of what Israel gets money from the states? You know oil moves the world, it's not like they do a favor to arab nations.

What I meant here is that Israeli revenue (from the US) does not exceed arab oil revenue.

Mmmm... this says a lot. :winkwink:

Sackfuls of "my dick is bigger" and more than a share of arrogance.... and probably some "self interest"....

BUAHAHAHA

yeah, add BA in Liar too!

lets compare girlfriends too!

please run along kid.

No kidding!!! Listened a lot to Bush idiotonomics lately....

OK. Arabs have oil ( if not taken over by colonozing powers ). Arabs pump and sell oil ... Arabs get money for Oil from US.... Make sense.

Now:

Israel pumps nothing ( no oil), Israel sells nothing but still gets money from US ...

Thayt is what is called " aid", "subsidies" or really " welfare"...

Ouff, he his relieved by that statment...

Read your post: it is full of spelling mistakes, no grammar , no punctuation and most of all makes no sense... If you went to college, it was on a basketball scholarship....

BY the way, the Vatican rules the Catholic church, not the other way around :321GFY

directfiesta:

Yea... it's something like that :winkwink:

It goes... "we are going to give you aid for X million. You are going to give us contracts for weapons to the value of X million."

There has hardly been a cent of difference in years .... This is called "US foreign policy" :)

Fletch, i don't need to come onto a board and lie about accomplishments to people I have never met...I objectively stated my academic background...It is a reflection of your own background and surroundings if you think that I am lying when I tell you that I am well educated.

You may not think I am smart, and that's fine, because educated does not automatically imply smart.

And again, there you go trying to belittle someone by calling them 'kid' - this is reflects weak self esteem...

I know that people put up fronts when they are not speaking face to face with another, but I have a feeling that, in reality, my description and, in effect, my impression of you is not that far off.

I enjoyed our spirited debate, before it turned to mud-slinging. I off to do more important things...see you soon :thumbsup

I'll amend my previous post to read...

"Sackfuls of "my dick is bigger" and more than a share of arrogance.... and probably some "self interest", of dubious credentials on claims of any education."

Mmmm.. Yea, Fletch is probably a "little" bit older than you kid :winkwink:

what i find the funny thing about this entire thread is this:

I never even really initiated a debate with ANYONE.

I posted a bunch of evil bible quotes, and notice AS SOON AS I POSTED Israel aid, they swarm. "oh mr big bad fletch thinks he is big shit with his POST COUNT"

you kids always bring up the same tired shit...

hahaha

marionette, first you must free yourself of those strings.



:1orglaugh

DEBATE??????????????/

get a clue.

i posted bible quotes and links to aid, you went off thinking your dick was bigger than mine

hahaha

i love it when these people argue with themselves then try to look smart.

I went to school for this, and I was in finance, and I can do this.

blah blah blah.

i was in college when you were in highschool, oh wait, you still are!

damn summer vacation!!!!!!!!

:1orglaugh

note the name calling and MUD SLINGING!

initiated by whom??/

you

BUAHAHAH

You again...I am sorry that I did not run spell check before I posted. My grammer is fine...I somehow doubt that you are qualified to judge my writing skills...

It is a matter of opinion, in terms of who runs what...we see here the chicken or egg question...which came first, the chicken or egg? Same dilemna; there is no unequvical response - they both certainly excerpt influence over each other.

more name calling by the choir,.

who was mud slining?

you.

hahahah

marionette

acratophorum:

For fucks sake go a take another Prozac and try to get your head in order....