The unspoken truth about the sig whoring business. - GoFuckYourself.com

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-10-2004, 02:04 AM

So, I spoke to this guy the other day (on ICQ). I won't go into details here, let's just name him John.

John has been a sigwhore for almost 3 years and people will recognize him from various nicknames he is using. John post activly at 7 adult message boards and averages 350 posts per day (this is what he told me).

Ok, so far, nothing special. Now buckle up!!

John's business is growing by $2,50 US every day, not that much you may think, but let's do the numbers on this, shall we?

A year has about 360 days, so if John's business is growing by as little as $2,50 US per day, he will pack in an amazing $900 every day by the end of the first year.

However my little ICQ friend has been doing this for almost 3 years now. He now turns over more than $2500 ($3000 on a good day) per day.

He never had a website, he never bought any traffic, he doesn't even know what html is.

John is what you may call a fulltime sigwhore.

Discuss !!!

quiet · 07-10-2004, 02:08 AM

i don't believe any sig whore makes more than a hundred dollars a day. period. they just aren't worth enough for anyone to pay them that much for a mere 350 post/day (from the info you gave). i don't think 3500 posts/day are worth 100 bucks. the bottom line is return. someone might give you a good deal for one month, but if they aren't seeing anything from it, it's over.

you can only run from messageboard to messageboard for so long.

JFK · 07-10-2004, 02:17 AM

50 post per day per board not bad, but does not seem realistic. On some of the smaller boards all you would see is his postings

shaverhunter · 07-10-2004, 02:18 AM

Stupid fucking question.

Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please?

I see it so much but what the fuck is it?

Cheers

$5 submissions · 07-10-2004, 02:22 AM

Quiet's right.

Moreover, why pay big money when you can outsource it for pennies per post?

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Originally posted by quiet
i don't believe any sig whore makes more than a hundred dollars a day. period. they just aren't worth enough for anyone to pay them that much for a mere 350 post/day (from the info you gave). i don't think 3500 posts/day are worth 100 bucks. the bottom line is return. someone might give you a good deal for one month, but if they aren't seeing anything from it, it's over.

you can only run from messageboard to messageboard for so long.

Pornopat · 07-10-2004, 02:23 AM

He can make 2,50 a day but I dont think the 2,50 will grow to like 3000 a day. Did he tell you how? He might have been bullshitting you?

Dildozer · 07-10-2004, 02:28 AM

I don't think people paid for sigs 3 years ago

However it would be in theory possible the man is making the money off referrals alone. After 3 years i bet they would start to stack up, although i highly doubt most sponsors actually pay them for long. Fuckers usually say "that account got term'd and stuff like that"

Still possible

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-10-2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat
He can make 2,50 a day but I dont think the 2,50 will grow to like 3000 a day. Did he tell you how? He might have been bullshitting you?

3 different programs paying for webmaster referals, 2 pay 10%, 1 he got to 20%.

I've seen his stats, he does not sig whore flyby shit, just those 3 programs.

Pornopat · 07-10-2004, 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
3 different programs paying for webmaster referals, 2 pay 10%, 1 he got to 20%.

I've seen his stats, he does not sig whore flyby shit, just those 3 programs.

I would like to see his stats. Referals tend to drop out after time.
So on average its 13%.
3k a day means others are making him 23k a day. Average amount for an affiliate is $15. That means people are making him over 1500 signups a day.
Looks to me like an enormous amount of affilates that signed up through him and did their very best to promote it day in day out...
And...they all succeeded.
I dont mean to be disrespectful but I think John knows his way around photoshop.

QualityMpegs · 07-10-2004, 04:19 AM

so, is this guy posting somewhat quality posts or is he just posting anything and everything that comes to his mind on every single thread?

stocktrader23 · 07-10-2004, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat
I would like to see his stats. Referals tend to drop out after time.
So on average its 13%.
3k a day means others are making him 23k a day. Average amount for an affiliate is $15. That means people are making him over 1500 signups a day.
Looks to me like an enormous amount of affilates that signed up through him and did their very best to promote it day in day out...
And...they all succeeded.
I dont mean to be disrespectful but I think John knows his way around photoshop.

3 years of nothing but webmaster referrals? Highly possible. I made 52k in around a year and a half from 2 active affiliates. Still pushing $400 a week or so from 1 guy. If I did nothing but recruit affiliates I would go into it planning on making thousands per day down the road.

Think about what he said. $2.50 per day. $25 signup x 10% = $2.50. If he adds just 1 sale in his downline per day he is right on track.

the_wizz · 07-10-2004, 04:28 AM

Yea, it sounds possible. The right programs, the right boards and good posts would do it.

Not some of the crap that some turn out, but good legitimate posts on well traveled boards..... If he can make a living at it, I say more power to him. He's found a way to do something so few have...

shaverhunter · 07-10-2004, 08:35 AM

Trying again

Stupid fucking question.

Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please?

I see it so much but what the fuck is it?

Cheers

The Bootyologist · 07-10-2004, 08:39 AM

I think I am going to give up the whoring business for sig whoring business

The Bootyologist · 07-10-2004, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by shaverhunter
Trying again

Stupid fucking question.

Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please?

I see it so much but what the fuck is it?

Cheers

sig = pic/banner/button/whatever you put in your proficle signature that displays at the bottom of all your posts ( mine has a pic of me as you can see below)

sig whoring is making money to post whichin turn shows your sig

tony286 · 07-10-2004, 08:43 AM

If all you did for a full time job was post on asst boards. In a 8 hr day you could post
480 x , now on one board that would be hard but if you posted on 8 to 10 boards a day it wouldnt be.

Joesho · 07-10-2004, 08:46 AM

Sig whore, Stomach whore, business whore, what is the difference? we are all whores to some degree or another...

sid375 · 07-10-2004, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
3 different programs paying for webmaster referals, 2 pay 10%, 1 he got to 20%.

I've seen his stats, he does not sig whore flyby shit, just those 3 programs.

can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

and you clearly stated this person has no sites and no traffic , thus you are a / making this up b / someone fooled you

case closed

Joesho · 07-10-2004, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

and you clearly stated this person has no sites and no traffic , thus you are a / making this up b / someone fooled you

case closed

Boy I wish I was as smart as you...

sid375 · 07-10-2004, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Bootyologist
sig = pic/banner/button/whatever you put in your proficle signature that displays at the bottom of all your posts ( mine has a pic of me as you can see below)

sig whoring is making money to post whichin turn shows your sig

LOL a pic of you ? ? ? that is BISHOP DON
"JUAN" MAGIC from the 50 cent video P.I.M.P.

MichaelP · 07-10-2004, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Pornopat
I dont mean to be disrespectful but I think John knows his way around photoshop.

I had a friend once who was always showing some other friends' stats... I had once to ask him when would I see our Stats like that ???

If I'd be making 1-3k a day, I'd never show my stats to anyone...

Minte · 07-10-2004, 08:55 AM

That sounds like something he read in the AMWAY manual..

MichaelP · 07-10-2004, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

Is that true ???

I have lot of webmasters traffic and I send some of it to sponsors pgm, but I don't have any surfer traffic (lack of time) to send to tehir surfers sites...

So does that mean that I am sending webmasters to them for nothing ???

Sounds a bit unethical to me

Manowar · 07-10-2004, 09:01 AM

Bullshit.

jawanda · 07-10-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

and you clearly stated this person has no sites and no traffic , thus you are a / making this up b / someone fooled you

case closed

dumbass

sid375 · 07-10-2004, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by jawanda

dumbass

which one do you know who does this ?

Vitasoy · 07-10-2004, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by qwebecexpo

I had a friend once who was always showing some other friends' stats... I had once to ask him when would I see our Stats like that ???

If I'd be making 1-3k a day, I'd never show my stats to anyone...

Agreed, I would keep it a secret. like the old saying goes... "lose lips, sink ships"

Jonathan Quarkschowski · 07-10-2004, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

and you clearly stated this person has no sites and no traffic , thus you are a / making this up b / someone fooled you

case closed

Somehow I know that you'll never get out of that trailer park you are living in, why is that?

dropped9 · 07-10-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
I don't think people paid for sigs 3 years ago

No they got paid to post.. Didnt matter what sig was there...

Dagwolf · 07-10-2004, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Quarkschowski
Somehow I know that you'll never get out of that trailer park you are living in, why is that?

Got something against trailer parks?

Kidding.. I live in one and it really bites.

07-10-2004, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
which one do you know who does this ?

Almost all of them. It would be easier to list the ones that force you to send sales yourself, like silvercash, eroticacash, perfectgonzo, etc.

kak_azn · 07-10-2004, 04:35 PM

One word "referals"

SureFire · 07-10-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
can you spell bullshit ? there is not ONE program paying for referrals if you are not sending traffic to that program yourself , not ONE !

and you clearly stated this person has no sites and no traffic , thus you are a / making this up b / someone fooled you

case closed

case open

I can name one (or many)

Alex · 07-10-2004, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid375
LOL a pic of you ? ? ? that is BISHOP DON
"JUAN" MAGIC from the 50 cent video P.I.M.P.

HAHAHA, diss.

Babagirls · 07-10-2004, 06:00 PM

see sig

Doctor Dre · 07-10-2004, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
I don't think people paid for sigs 3 years ago

However it would be in theory possible the man is making the money off referrals alone. After 3 years i bet they would start to stack up, although i highly doubt most sponsors actually pay them for long. Fuckers usually say "that account got term'd and stuff like that"

Still possible

He is not talking abuot sig selling ... he is talking about referals . Just look at andre ... he said one guy makes him 128 $ in a single day from referal ...

Doctor Dre · 07-10-2004, 06:01 PM

And most programs dont pay shit when you dont promote them

Fizzgig · 07-10-2004, 06:29 PM

I believe it.

Not everyone can do it, though. But it is very believable to me.

If you did a lot of research, played your cards right and spent a good many hours a day working, in 2 years you could probably buy a home and nice car without ever learning html or graphics or even owning anything yourself business related at all.
People only say it's bullshit because they think it's so "easy" and they should be making that money too if it were that easy, well to all of you, that way of thinking is in itself bullshit because nearly everything looks easy to everyone if they're watching someone who is an expert at it. (Doesn't mean it really is).

zentz · 07-10-2004, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shaverhunter
Stupid fucking question.

Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please?

I see it so much but what the fuck is it?

Cheers

it is you in next few days/months

Tuga · 07-10-2004, 07:11 PM

I would kill myself after 2 weeks trying to pull that stunt. I dont care how much I could make 3 years from now.

stevecore · 07-10-2004, 07:23 PM

dude you really need to learn where a comma and a period go.

ImLost · 07-10-2004, 07:35 PM

i dont believe it, worse thins about these threads is they never say how or who.

doornx · 07-10-2004, 07:47 PM

i don't buy it..he doesn't run any sites but still draws in tons of affiliates

Referrals might be good when a new program starts..but using the same programs for 3 years won't draw many new affiliates imo

cambaby · 07-10-2004, 07:55 PM

I call bullshit, plus its another post for my sig thx John.

Dagwolf · 07-10-2004, 07:59 PM

There are always new affiliates, and the safety of an established program is attractive to new webmasters. They can be fairly sure of

1) Quality sites (the old program wouldn't be around without them)
2) Reliable payouts (in most cases)

3) Good webmaster support and resources, like ARS has...

4) Some assurance that the company will still exist on payday.

Like Traffic Cash Gold

Dagwolf · 07-10-2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Referrals might be good when a new program starts..but using the same programs for 3 years won't draw many new affiliates imo

My previous post was in reply to this.. unable to edit due to GFY database error.

KRL · 07-10-2004, 08:33 PM

If you happen to catch some large site players that sign up for deals in your sig you can make $$$ for a long long time. Pretty amazing way to make money with zero work.

ShellyCrash · 07-10-2004, 08:34 PM

We pay up to 10% on webmaster referrals- and if you're in the business of running sites that generate webmaster traffic, it's cake to get the 10%. To get paid by us you only need to have an affiliate account- we pay affiliates who send us strictly webmaster referrals. Sid, I'm going to be going out in a bit so I won't be avail to ICQ- but you can email me and I'll get back to you. or you can IM me when I'm online.

wyldblyss · 07-10-2004, 08:37 PM

Well I know of a couple of people that make damn good money from referrals. The majority don't, but there are always exceptions to the rule. Some people just have a way of drawing people in.

keyboard warrior · 07-10-2004, 11:02 PM

sig sales are nothing but fake ass icq mother fuckers saying they sold there sig for 10k when they did a icq deal for 10 cents!

dont trust anything posted here.

07-10-2004, 02:04 AM	#1
Jonathan Quarkschowski So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: I made people more money than you could ... Posts: 631	The unspoken truth about the sig whoring business. So, I spoke to this guy the other day (on ICQ). I won't go into details here, let's just name him John. John has been a sigwhore for almost 3 years and people will recognize him from various nicknames he is using. John post activly at 7 adult message boards and averages 350 posts per day (this is what he told me). Ok, so far, nothing special. Now buckle up!! John's business is growing by $2,50 US every day, not that much you may think, but let's do the numbers on this, shall we? A year has about 360 days, so if John's business is growing by as little as $2,50 US per day, he will pack in an amazing $900 every day by the end of the first year. However my little ICQ friend has been doing this for almost 3 years now. He now turns over more than $2500 ($3000 on a good day) per day. He never had a website, he never bought any traffic, he doesn't even know what html is. John is what you may call a fulltime sigwhore. Discuss !!!

07-10-2004, 02:08 AM	#2
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i don't believe any sig whore makes more than a hundred dollars a day. period. they just aren't worth enough for anyone to pay them that much for a mere 350 post/day (from the info you gave). i don't think 3500 posts/day are worth 100 bucks. the bottom line is return. someone might give you a good deal for one month, but if they aren't seeing anything from it, it's over. you can only run from messageboard to messageboard for so long. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP Last edited by quiet; 07-10-2004 at 02:10 AM..

07-10-2004, 02:17 AM	#3
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07-10-2004, 02:23 AM	#6
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07-10-2004, 02:28 AM	#7
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	I don't think people paid for sigs 3 years ago However it would be in theory possible the man is making the money off referrals alone. After 3 years i bet they would start to stack up, although i highly doubt most sponsors actually pay them for long. Fuckers usually say "that account got term'd and stuff like that" Still possible __________________ Spam link here

07-10-2004, 02:18 AM	#4
shaverhunter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 93	Stupid fucking question. Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please? I see it so much but what the fuck is it? Cheers

07-10-2004, 04:19 AM	#10
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07-10-2004, 04:28 AM	#12
the_wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: hmmm..... Posts: 1,633	Yea, it sounds possible. The right programs, the right boards and good posts would do it. Not some of the crap that some turn out, but good legitimate posts on well traveled boards..... If he can make a living at it, I say more power to him. He's found a way to do something so few have... __________________ Promote the Best

07-10-2004, 08:35 AM	#13
shaverhunter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 93	Trying again Stupid fucking question. Whats a "sig" and whats a "sig whore" please? I see it so much but what the fuck is it? Cheers

07-10-2004, 08:39 AM	#14
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	I think I am going to give up the whoring business for sig whoring business

07-10-2004, 08:43 AM	#16
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	If all you did for a full time job was post on asst boards. In a 8 hr day you could post 480 x , now on one board that would be hard but if you posted on 8 to 10 boards a day it wouldnt be.

07-10-2004, 08:46 AM	#17
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07-10-2004, 08:55 AM	#22
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07-10-2004, 09:01 AM	#24
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Bullshit.

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07-10-2004, 06:29 PM	#38
Fizzgig Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In Your Dreams Posts: 9,649	I believe it. Not everyone can do it, though. But it is very believable to me. If you did a lot of research, played your cards right and spent a good many hours a day working, in 2 years you could probably buy a home and nice car without ever learning html or graphics or even owning anything yourself business related at all. People only say it's bullshit because they think it's so "easy" and they should be making that money too if it were that easy, well to all of you, that way of thinking is in itself bullshit because nearly everything looks easy to everyone if they're watching someone who is an expert at it. (Doesn't mean it really is). __________________ ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

07-10-2004, 07:11 PM	#40
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07-10-2004, 07:23 PM	#41
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07-10-2004, 07:47 PM	#43
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07-10-2004, 07:55 PM	#44
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	I call bullshit, plus its another post for my sig thx John.

07-10-2004, 07:59 PM	#45
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	There are always new affiliates, and the safety of an established program is attractive to new webmasters. They can be fairly sure of 1) Quality sites (the old program wouldn't be around without them) 2) Reliable payouts (in most cases) 3) Good webmaster support and resources, like ARS has... 4) Some assurance that the company will still exist on payday. Like Traffic Cash Gold __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

07-10-2004, 08:33 PM	#47
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07-10-2004, 08:34 PM	#48
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07-10-2004, 08:37 PM	#49
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	Well I know of a couple of people that make damn good money from referrals. The majority don't, but there are always exceptions to the rule. Some people just have a way of drawing people in.

07-10-2004, 11:02 PM	#50
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	sig sales are nothing but fake ass icq mother fuckers saying they sold there sig for 10k when they did a icq deal for 10 cents! dont trust anything posted here. __________________ - nothing here -