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Old 07-09-2004, 02:43 PM   #1
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Anyone here own datingGold?

Well?
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:44 PM   #2
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yeah, he's cleverly disguised as the guy running around with the nick "datinggold"
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:46 PM   #3
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Spaming gold might be a better name
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That would be me, but I think we spoke just a little bit ago? If not contact me. Icq is best.

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I dont think we spoke but I got two spams from you in the past two days.
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:49 PM   #6
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yeah, he's cleverly disguised as the guy running around with the nick "datinggold"
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:55 PM   #7
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I dont think we spoke but I got two spams from you in the past two days.
They aren't from me for one and two you should send them to [email protected]. Please be sure to forward the message so we can trace it.
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I love how I got the same automated e-mail for every single one of our sites, send a message to abuse only to be called a liar.
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I dont think we spoke but I got two spams from you in the past two days.
Always view the email headers before you acuse someone of spam.
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Whoever is sending them is using your name " Allen". I'l forward them over.
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I love how I got the same automated e-mail for every single one of our sites, send a message to abuse only to be called a liar.
If you are referring to the message I think you are, it's not spam. We pay a philipino about $2 an hour to personally visit your site check it out and contact you. Therefore thats not spam
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Whoever is sending them is using your name " Allen". I'l forward them over.
Please do. If its contacting you about promoting our site its not spam, our guy personally visited your site. Instead of freaking out why don't you just hit the delete button? We only contact each site once.

But yes I will gladly look into and see what message you got.
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If you are referring to the message I think you are, it's not spam. We pay a philipino about $2 an hour to personally visit your site check it out and contact you. Therefore thats not spam
Should I call it unsolicited email?
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If you are referring to the message I think you are, it's not spam. We pay a philipino about $2 an hour to personally visit your site check it out and contact you. Therefore thats not spam

You have no clue of the definition of spam...do you?
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Should I call it unsolicited email?
No it's called a cold call. It's not illegal to contact a site using the contact form or email address on their website. If you don't want to be contacted then don't put a contact method on your site.
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No it's called a cold call. It's not illegal to contact a site using the contact form or email address on their website. If you don't want to be contacted then don't put a contact method on your site.
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You have no clue of the definition of spam...do you?
So contacting someone by using their "contact" button on their site is spam? Maybe you aren't too clear on the definition yourself.

It's common sense if you don't want to be contacted, don't put a contact button on your site.

I get marketing material from people all the time:

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and you know what I do? If Im not interestd I hit the delete button.

Now if they are spamming me viagra or mouse pads thats a different story.
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Old 07-09-2004, 03:07 PM   #19
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If you are referring to the message I think you are, it's not spam. We pay a philipino about $2 an hour to personally visit your site check it out and contact you. Therefore thats not spam

you're overpaying him...try getting his father to work for you, in exchange you let the boy live
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Yes my guy sent you that. Sorry he's just trying to keep his job and recruit some webmasters.

I'll tell him he can't contact other sites anymore because they complain in public on boards, so we have to let him go.

He'll be happy to tell his kids daddy no longer has a job because of you.
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Please do. If its contacting you about promoting our site its not spam, our guy personally visited your site. Instead of freaking out why don't you just hit the delete button? We only contact each site once.

But yes I will gladly look into and see what message you got.
By the way I was not freaking out. And I was contacted twice.in two days.
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yeah, he's cleverly disguised as the guy running around with the nick "datinggold"
LOL
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By the way I was not freaking out. And I was contacted twice.in two days.
yeah you weren't the other guy was.

Have you tried to reply to the email for a response? Or do you just go to the boards immediately?
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forward it 2

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Yes, because of you and your poor business practices.
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So contacting someone by using their "contact" button on their site is spam? Maybe you aren't too clear on the definition yourself.

It's common sense if you don't want to be contacted, don't put a contact button on your site.

I get marketing material from people all the time:

Webair
Playboy
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Content Providers

and you know what I do? If Im not interestd I hit the delete button.

Now if they are spamming me viagra or mouse pads thats a different story.
Definition of spam :
unwanted or junk e-mail

Mark the word unwanted.
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Mark the word unwanted.
Refer to CAN-SPAM laws please. Until you ask to be removed, people can email you until they die if they want.
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Refer to CAN-SPAM laws please. Until you ask to be removed, people can email you until they die if they want.
Refer 2 my post above big boy
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Let Them decide if it's spam or not.
LOL there we go!
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yeah you weren't the other guy was.

Have you tried to reply to the email for a response? Or do you just go to the boards immediately?
First off my email is not on my sites , if you find it I will apoligise.
Secondly , the first one I blew off , the second one pissed me off a little.

I never talked with you and you don't see my programs in your mailbox. Its a comon curtisy not to bomb fellow webmasters with
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First off my email is not on my sites , if you find it I will apoligise.
Secondly , the first one I blew off , the second one pissed me off a little.

I never talked with you and you don't see my programs in your mailbox. Its a comon curtisy not to bomb fellow webmasters with
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PatrickKing

I'm not joking refer 2 my post above if you didn't opt-in.

it's 15 K per email if they decide 2 go after him, every email just forward it.
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First off my email is not on my sites , if you find it I will apoligise.
Secondly , the first one I blew off , the second one pissed me off a little.

I never talked with you and you don't see my programs in your mailbox. Its a comon curtisy not to bomb fellow webmasters with
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Especially when you get an automated e-mail to every site in your program (more than once) instead of a friendly e-mail to the program owner... go figure.
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Refer to CAN-SPAM laws please. Until you ask to be removed, people can email you until they die if they want.
You are an IDIOT. That mail above does NOT comply to the can spam laws, rules and regulations. You are a spammer plain and simple, and jimmyf posted the best solution on how to deal with you.
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the electronic mail address of the recipient was obtained using an automated means from an Internet website or proprietary online service operated by another person, and such website or online service included, at the time the address was obtained, a notice stating that the operator of such website or online service will not give, sell, or otherwise transfer addresses maintained by such website or online service to any other party for the purposes of initiating, or enabling others to initiate, electronic mail messages;


You got the address by browsing a site operated by ANOTHER person...

I'm not a lawyer....But am I right here?
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Old 07-09-2004, 03:25 PM   #36
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First off my email is not on my sites , if you find it I will apoligise.
Secondly , the first one I blew off , the second one pissed me off a little.

I never talked with you and you don't see my programs in your mailbox. Its a comon curtisy not to bomb fellow webmasters with
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He visits sites and emails them so he must have visited to of your sites a couple times. I will see if he can recall where on your site he got it.
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I'm not joking refer 2 my post above if you didn't opt-in.

it's 15 K per email if they decide 2 go after him, every email just forward it.
This realy isint my style at all. Even 15k would'nt tempt me if it was an honest mistake.
And I would'nt want to bust someones gig unless they were an unsufferable asshole.
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the electronic mail address of the recipient was obtained using an automated means from an Internet website or proprietary online service operated by another person, and such website or online service included, at the time the address was obtained, a notice stating that the operator of such website or online service will not give, sell, or otherwise transfer addresses maintained by such website or online service to any other party for the purposes of initiating, or enabling others to initiate, electronic mail messages;


You got the address by browsing a site operated by ANOTHER person...

I'm not a lawyer....But am I right here?
"was obtained using an automated means"

It wasnt automated he visited the site. You read that way wrong.

They are talking about then people harvest hotmail emails or harvest emails from the internet.
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This realy isint my style at all. Even 15k would'nt tempt me if it was an honest mistake.
And I would'nt want to bust someones gig unless they were an unsufferable asshole.
I will tell him to make sure he no longer contacts "[email protected]" even if its on a site he visits.

Thanks
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I just spend 4 hours going to contact pages, and hitting up the listed email address with a business offer.

Why would you bitch about getting 2 emails? Forget where the delete key is?
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First off my email is not on my sites , if you find it I will apoligise.
Secondly , the first one I blew off , the second one pissed me off a little.

I never talked with you and you don't see my programs in your mailbox. Its a comon curtisy not to bomb fellow webmasters with
solicitations , unless they are part of your program already.


now stop bitching and whining
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I will tell him to make sure he no longer contacts "[email protected]" even if its on a site he visits.

Thanks
How classy from you to list his email here....

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You are an IDIOT. That mail above does NOT comply to the can spam laws, rules and regulations. You are a spammer plain and simple, and jimmyf posted the best solution on how to deal with you.
Ok so if I go to your website and click your contact button and say:

" Hi SpeakEasy, I like your site want to try ours?"

you think thats spam? If so I'll be sure to never do business with you. Hell I better not even post on GFY cause that might be construed as spam by you.
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How classy from you to list his email here....

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He fucking listed it himself above. I told him to forward me the email. Jesus.
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I just spend 4 hours going to contact pages, and hitting up the listed email address with a business offer.

Why would you bitch about getting 2 emails? Forget where the delete key is?
If it was a business associate that I have delt with
I would not be bitching.
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I had 2 take my email address off all my sites and pages because of harvesting, put a yahoo ones on and now I couldn't tell you if a surfer send me a email I ain't going 2 scan through 100's upon 100's of spam's. I have go to yahoo 2 sometimes 3 times a day and empty the junk folder.
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now stop bitching and whining
No shit. People have too much time.
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Thats not my email.
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I just spend 4 hours going to contact pages, and hitting up the listed email address with a business offer.

Why would you bitch about getting 2 emails? Forget where the delete key is?
No Brad. That would be a $30k fine. Also your sig is spam too, so I want money for that please
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