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Old 07-05-2004, 02:28 PM   #51
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How do they kill cows these days? Anyone know? Do they still club calves?
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:30 PM   #52
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Come now. No one here would believe that I'm a vegitarian or that I would give a shit and be offended.
I read it on the Internet, it has to be true
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:32 PM   #53
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you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:34 PM   #54
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Ok, so here is the plan.

We need to raise poodles and super cute kittens for the purpose of slaughter. Then, we kill them in a humane way and proceed to eat them. No one will have a problem with this?
pussy is tasty, I have no problem with that at all
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:36 PM   #55
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When the food chain is optional, it should be based on a loose intelligence hierarchy. It would look something like this:

-humans
-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects.
-fruit and vegetables

obviously I skipped a few species.. but the general idea is you draw a line somewhere on that list and only eat the animals below it. Of course, the actual nutritional value of the animal is important too. You can feed a lot more people by taking 1 cow life than taking 1 dog life. And if you're starving, then you can't afford to make moral choices.
it is my understanding that pigs are a lot smarter than dogs
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:39 PM   #56
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Pigs are smarter than most people think. Almost smart enough to make me feel bad about eating them. But they are not smarter than dogs. (however a lot of PETA-type groups like to suggest that)
ever read Animal Farm?
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:16 PM   #57
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What if you did raise them for slaughter?
Have a look at China, they do slaughter dogs and eat them.

And have another look at history: those people who didn´t think they should slaughter every living thing down weren´t the most stupid.

So everything depends on the development a society got through. Even the Romans kept their folks down with "panem et circenses" - those famous gladiator games.
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:23 PM   #58
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When the food chain is optional, it should be based on a loose intelligence hierarchy. It would look something like this:

-humans
-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects.
-fruit and vegetables

obviously I skipped a few species.. but the general idea is you draw a line somewhere on that list and only eat the animals below it. Of course, the actual nutritional value of the animal is important too. You can feed a lot more people by taking 1 cow life than taking 1 dog life. And if you're starving, then you can't afford to make moral choices.
There seems to be a mistake in that hierarchy. If the average intelligence is the base, it should be this way:

-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects
-fruit and vegetables
-humans
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:31 PM   #59
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If animals could talk, would you still eat them?
It depends what they said to me.
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:42 PM   #61
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Rick,

What about setting up a fake slaughterhouse, just on paper, and try to obtain a license for killing dogs or other "cute" animals ?

That way you would get an official explanation on paper why it is not possible / allowed.

Most answers in this thread are plain ignorant. Pitty.
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:43 PM   #62
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:52 PM   #64
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We aren't?
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:54 PM   #65
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Because cattles taste good.
Maybe domestic animals do to. We haven't had a chance to try!
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:00 PM   #67
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We aren't?
Not from my experience.

But being irrational at times is arguably what makes humans interesting. If our behaviour was always rational and always followed consistent logic then we might be very predictable and boring.
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:09 PM   #69
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You can shoot any animal at anytime but first you need to say thest words very loud so your neighbors can hear you.

Watch out! It's about to attack.

I learned that from South Park
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How much comfort can most cows bring you compared to most dogs?

You can't shoot a cow with a gun and kill it. The way they kill cows is by firing two bolts into the side of their head which as far as I know knocks them out so they don't feel what happens to them next.

If you shoot a dog in the head with a gun you'll likely not kill it.

I guess it comes down to respect really. I don't have a problem with the people that eat dogs or any other animal, so long as they don't feel it.

And I don't put humans any higher than other animals, though we don't eat humans, some people do still though that is because that's how they have found to get a source of meat.

Really you can compare all of this to if you had to eat a person. Would you want them to not suffer? If you would then you're a fucked up person in my opinion.

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Maybe domestic animals do to. We haven't had a chance to try!
I ate them in China. They don't taste that good. I'd rather eat some chicken.
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:35 PM   #72
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Just another one of mankind?s hypocrisies. Like exactly which inches of skin are rude and which aren?t - they are all made of the same stuff!!!
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If you shoot a dog in the head with a gun you'll likely not kill it.
What kind of guns are you thinking of? BB guns?
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No. Have you not ever heard of people surviving headshots?

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When does farming end and animal cruelty begin...

Rick, perhaps this is one of those things like "obscenity".

You'll know it when you see it.
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There seems to be a mistake in that hierarchy. If the average intelligence is the base, it should be this way:

-chimps
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-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects
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When does farming end and animal cruelty begin...

Rick, perhaps this is one of those things like "obscenity".

You'll know it when you see it.

Interesting point. Obscenity is a moral issue defined by what doesn't have ANY redeeming quality what-so-ever. For instance, Consumption Junction is not obscene because we have witty commentary on the site.

Does this mean that you can kill any animal you own as long as you do it humanely? I guess it does, after all you can have a dog put to sleep.

I saw a comedian tell a joke one time that he read it was illegal to have sex with a dead animal. He said, "what would tell the judge? Your honor I thought the cat was alive?"
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