BROWSERS: CNN Story On Demand For Alternative Browsers - GoFuckYourself.com

Greg B · 07-03-2004, 09:25 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

Renewed calls for alternative browsers
Friday, July 2, 2004 Posted: 3:52 PM EDT (1952 GMT)

Using Internet Explorer is "like playing the lottery," says Johannes B. Ullrich, chief technology officer of SANS Internet Security Center.

NEW YORK (AP) -- It's been a bad week for many users of Microsoft Corp.'s nearly ubiquitous Internet Explorer browser.

A pair of virus attacks exploiting its vulnerabilities had led security experts to recommend that Web surfers consider such alternatives as Mozilla and Opera.

Until Microsoft made a software update available Friday, continuing to use Internet Explorer was "like playing the lottery," said Johannes B. Ullrich, chief technology officer of the nonprofit SANS Internet Security Center.

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TweetyBird · 07-03-2004, 09:27 AM

interesting

warlock5 · 07-03-2004, 09:27 AM

This is all you need .. been using it for over a year myself.

loverboy · 07-03-2004, 09:29 AM

netscape

More Booze · 07-03-2004, 09:31 AM

nice

tgpmakers · 07-03-2004, 09:32 AM

Explorer is outdated and way behind the rest total lack of security.

Get Linux everyone and use Mozilla !!!

David! · 07-03-2004, 09:32 AM

It's all bullshit !!!
No browser can be safe from losers who write viruses and trojans.
The only time I've got fucked with trojans is when I used Firefox or Netscape.
The only reason I use Netscape or Firefox is because they have the tabs..

The Bootyologist · 07-03-2004, 09:37 AM

interesting indeed

wyldblyss · 07-03-2004, 09:48 AM

I can't believe how people think IE is a piece of crap because of the exploits. Every browser has security issues. The difference is that no one uses the other browsers so idiots can't be bothered exploiting them. If everyone switches to another browser (not like that would ever happen)..you would end up having the same problems.

David! · 07-03-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
I can't believe how people think IE is a piece of crap because of the exploits. Every browser has security issues. The difference is that no one uses the other browsers so idiots can't be bothered exploiting them. If everyone switches to another browser (not like that would ever happen)..you would end up having the same problems.

I absolutely conccur and more

Vitasoy · 07-03-2004, 09:54 AM

Hey, at least they were honest

riosluts · 07-03-2004, 10:03 AM

haha i am not surprised an article like that came out. There is just enough of this viruses and spywares

doornx · 07-03-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
I can't believe how people think IE is a piece of crap because of the exploits. Every browser has security issues. The difference is that no one uses the other browsers so idiots can't be bothered exploiting them. If everyone switches to another browser (not like that would ever happen)..you would end up having the same problems.

very true indeed

Rochard · 07-03-2004, 10:28 AM

If Firefox was to become the standard browser most commonly used they would start pumping out virus after virus to target Firefox. It wouldn't solve anything, just change the target of the people who write the viruses.

nofx · 07-03-2004, 10:32 AM

www.opera.com

Libertine · 07-03-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
I can't believe how people think IE is a piece of crap because of the exploits. Every browser has security issues. The difference is that no one uses the other browsers so idiots can't be bothered exploiting them. If everyone switches to another browser (not like that would ever happen)..you would end up having the same problems.

Wrong. Very wrong even.

One of the main problems of IE is allowing ActiveX controls. ActiveX controls are a major security risk. Mozilla does not allow ActiveX controls, and thus the single biggest cause of exploits is gone.

Aside from that, Mozilla is open source... meaning a large community tries to exploit it before it is officially released and searches for flaws, and those exploits and flaws are fixed before you ever get to use it. So, there's less chance of large mistakes in versions that get released.

EviLGuY · 07-03-2004, 10:39 AM

I've been saying it for months.. anyone that still uses IE for their main browser really needs to at least download Firefox or Mozilla and try it for a few days.

optional · 07-03-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Wrong. Very wrong even.

One of the main problems of IE is allowing ActiveX controls. ActiveX controls are a major security risk. Mozilla does not allow ActiveX controls, and thus the single biggest cause of exploits is gone.

Aside from that, Mozilla is open source... meaning a large community tries to exploit it before it is officially released and searches for flaws, and those exploits and flaws are fixed before you ever get to use it. So, there's less chance of large mistakes in versions that get released.

I have active X turned off in IE... and I like choices.

I tried firefox because so many people have mentioned it recently but apart from the bookmark and tabbed browser features.. I found it very poor.

It's not compatible with many scripted sites and is way too sensitive to poorly coded sites so I have to keep using IE for some stuff even if I do use Firefox.. But worst of all, it renders HTML pages differnt to IE.. much more differnt to IE than netscape 6 did... and anyone who is in business cant afford to view the web differntly to the way 90% of your customers do.. and I dont mean just your sites... you need to see all the web the same way your customers do.

By the time this browser works properly IE will have a tabbed browsing version that is better anyway is my bet.

*Edit.. PS.. I am still testing it and using to view this board right now... Try using the message post form here with it and then with IE and then try and tell me how great Firefox is!

KRL · 07-03-2004, 10:47 AM

I've become a total Opera 7.5.1 lover recently and believe me I'm picky as hell when it comes to software applications.

Read this fascinating article about Opera

http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/7/

Get Opera 7.5.1 here:

http://www.opera.com

Greg B · 07-03-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I've become a total Opera 7.5.1 lover recently and believe me I'm picky as hell when it comes to software applications.

Read this fascinating article about Opera

http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/7/

Get Opera 7.5.1 here:

http://www.opera.com

Well you got me sold on that one!

The main thing I don't like about IE is that so many programs won't install properly unless you let them imbed themselves into the browser. Then there's so many things you can't get with your Windows OS without IE. IE has so much unnecessary proprietary shit attached it's like having another OS all into itself.

I remember the good ol' days. A browser was just that, a browser not looking like a console to a Star Trek LCars menu system.

TheEnforcer · 07-03-2004, 12:10 PM

Hmmm.. think I'll try Firefox and see what all the fuss is about.

Napolean · 07-03-2004, 12:54 PM

only problem ive seen with firefox is sometimes it doesnt recognize links... like, their unclickable.

other than that i like it

Gottis · 07-03-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
I've been saying it for months.. anyone that still uses IE for their main browser really needs to at least download Firefox or Mozilla and try it for a few days.

Firefox has its advantages, but when some pages don't render correctly, I'm forced to fire up IE anyway.

While Firefox & Co might be faster than IE, the differance the down the road isn't that obvious as it is in the beginning. My 50 cents.

frankthetank · 07-03-2004, 02:59 PM

So if I use firefox or opera then I would get these fucking trojans, spywares, adware, etc. or are they just less of a threat but still infect every once in a while?

07-03-2004, 09:25 AM	#1
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	BROWSERS: CNN Story On Demand For Alternative Browsers http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/interne....ap/index.html Renewed calls for alternative browsers Friday, July 2, 2004 Posted: 3:52 PM EDT (1952 GMT) Using Internet Explorer is "like playing the lottery," says Johannes B. Ullrich, chief technology officer of SANS Internet Security Center. NEW YORK (AP) -- It's been a bad week for many users of Microsoft Corp.'s nearly ubiquitous Internet Explorer browser. A pair of virus attacks exploiting its vulnerabilities had led security experts to recommend that Web surfers consider such alternatives as Mozilla and Opera. Until Microsoft made a software update available Friday, continuing to use Internet Explorer was "like playing the lottery," said Johannes B. Ullrich, chief technology officer of the nonprofit SANS Internet Security Center. <snip>

07-03-2004, 09:27 AM	#2
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07-03-2004, 09:32 AM	#6
tgpmakers Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 575	Explorer is outdated and way behind the rest total lack of security. Get Linux everyone and use Mozilla !!! __________________ http://www.tgpmakers.com/

07-03-2004, 09:32 AM	#7
David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	It's all bullshit !!! No browser can be safe from losers who write viruses and trojans. The only time I've got fucked with trojans is when I used Firefox or Netscape. The only reason I use Netscape or Firefox is because they have the tabs.. __________________ .

07-03-2004, 09:54 AM	#11
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Hey, at least they were honest __________________ [email protected]

07-03-2004, 09:27 AM	#3
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	This is all you need .. been using it for over a year myself.

07-03-2004, 09:29 AM	#4
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	netscape

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More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	nice

07-03-2004, 09:37 AM	#8
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	interesting indeed

07-03-2004, 09:48 AM	#9
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	I can't believe how people think IE is a piece of crap because of the exploits. Every browser has security issues. The difference is that no one uses the other browsers so idiots can't be bothered exploiting them. If everyone switches to another browser (not like that would ever happen)..you would end up having the same problems.

07-03-2004, 10:03 AM	#12
riosluts Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,250	haha i am not surprised an article like that came out. There is just enough of this viruses and spywares __________________

07-03-2004, 10:28 AM	#14
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,022	If Firefox was to become the standard browser most commonly used they would start pumping out virus after virus to target Firefox. It wouldn't solve anything, just change the target of the people who write the viruses. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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07-03-2004, 10:39 AM	#17
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	I've been saying it for months.. anyone that still uses IE for their main browser really needs to at least download Firefox or Mozilla and try it for a few days.

07-03-2004, 10:47 AM	#19
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I've become a total Opera 7.5.1 lover recently and believe me I'm picky as hell when it comes to software applications. Read this fascinating article about Opera http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/7/ Get Opera 7.5.1 here: http://www.opera.com __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

07-03-2004, 12:10 PM	#21
TheEnforcer Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,855	Hmmm.. think I'll try Firefox and see what all the fuss is about. __________________ Hit me up below for all your advertising needs!

07-03-2004, 12:54 PM	#22
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07-03-2004, 02:59 PM	#24
frankthetank Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 616	So if I use firefox or opera then I would get these fucking trojans, spywares, adware, etc. or are they just less of a threat but still infect every once in a while?