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Old 07-02-2004, 06:26 AM   #1
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Topbucks - do you know you are being represented as racist nazis by a sigwhore?

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=320947

Time to take out the trash.
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:29 AM   #2
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Ban the moron, all he does here is post stupid newsthreads anyway.
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:30 AM   #3
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Is that actually his sig or did he hotlink someone who got pissed off and changed the pic?
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:42 AM   #4
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http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=320947

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Yup, ICQ sent, but they are a few hours behind us. What a fucking Retard
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:44 AM   #5
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Well, i dont know him, but seems like he simply copied some news
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:50 AM   #6
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:52 AM   #7
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Well, i dont know him, but seems like he simply copied some news
No, I'm talking about his sig....
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Well, i dont know him, but seems like he simply copied some news
Did you spot the Swastika and the tag line on it ? Hellooooooo ??
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:53 AM   #9
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This is what I'm bitching about... he is using it as a banner for TopBucks in his sig:

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Old 07-02-2004, 06:55 AM   #10
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I didn´t know that a sig could be uglier than mine!!!
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I didn´t know that a sig could be uglier than mine!!!

At least you made a sig .... mine is all text..
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:58 AM   #12
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Using a sig like his isn't exactly the best way to become popular. Just stirring up shit I would assume..

Looks like it's working
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Old 07-02-2004, 06:59 AM   #13
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Did you spot the Swastika and the tag line on it ? Hellooooooo ??
In his sig i see a "Red x" and then a link to a herbal affiliate program. This "red x" leads to Top Bucks, but i cannot see what it is.
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Did you spot the Swastika and the tag line on it ? Hellooooooo ??
duh, wonder what was going on
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Whoa! That swazzi was totally not there last night....
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Sorry- I was thinking of a different thread- guess it was there the whole time.
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At least you made a sig .... mine is all text..

true =)
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:21 AM   #19
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he'll be gone soon enough, fucking rascist, you probably don't even know what Hitler did in the 2nd worldwar
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:23 AM   #20
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:31 AM   #21
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he'll be gone soon enough, fucking rascist, you probably don't even know what Hitler did in the 2nd worldwar
a lot of people don't believe what Hitler did and a whole bunch don't have enough grey matter 2 see it was evil at work.
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:33 AM   #22
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This is what I'm bitching about... he is using it as a banner for TopBucks in his sig:

the things you miss when you have sigs disabled.....
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:40 AM   #23
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I DID NOT DO THIS.

Someone obviously has a problem with me,,,right Battuss???
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I think it is changed now. I hope somebody made a screenshot
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Someone obviously has a problem with me,,,right Battuss???
why should it be him, everybody thinks your a fucking idiot
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Thanks JFK and the rest of you who contacted us this morning to make us aware of this situation. Obviously, TopBucks does not condone racism, fascism, nazism, or any other "isms" that demostrate a similar depth of ignorance and hatred. We did not purchase Jedimaster's sig, but this is of concern to us, nonetheless.

Jedimaster - I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt here, since you say that you did not do this, but I need to be convinced; can you explain to me how it did occur, if in fact you are not responsible for it? You can reach me via email at [email protected]

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Old 07-02-2004, 09:54 AM   #29
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It was there earlier. saw it with my own 2 beaty little rat eyes. hehe.
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Hmm, if it needs to be dealt with they will deal with it, Topbucks are good people.
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Thanks JFK and the rest of you who contacted us this morning to make us aware of this situation. Obviously, TopBucks does not condone racism, fascism, nazism, or any other "isms" that demostrate a similar depth of ignorance and hatred. We did not purchase Jedimaster's sig, but this is of concern to us, nonetheless.

Jedimaster - I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt here, since you say that you did not do this, but I need to be convinced; can you explain to me how it did occur, if in fact you are not responsible for it? You can reach me via email at [email protected]

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Thanks for the post Q ! Top Bucks Does not need to be smeared by bullshit like this !
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racism, fascism, nazism, or any other "isms" that demostrate a similar depth of ignorance and hatred.
If you could explain to us the reasoning behind asserting that nazism and fascism have more to do with ignorance (lack of knowledge) than any other popular or unpopular political and/or ideological platform, that would be swell. For example, you can show us obvious knowledge the nazis and fascists missed out on because they were, as you assert, ignorant. "They were ignorant because they didn't know like I do what innocent and kind little creatures Jewish people are," and so forth. It'll be a bit easier if you shut your mind off to undisputed facts like the technological, creational, and intellectual superiority of the nazis. Thanks in advance.

By the way, I don't support the graphic in its whole in any way, it was an obvious stab at shock-value, or quite possibly an attempt to get JediMaster banned from GFY or booted from the relevant sponsor.
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If you could explain to us the reasoning behind asserting that nazism and fascism have more to do with ignorance (lack of knowledge) than any other popular or unpopular political and/or ideological platform, that would be swell. For example, you can show us obvious knowledge the nazis and fascists missed out on because they were, as you assert, ignorant. "They were ignorant because they didn't know like I do what innocent and kind little creatures Jewish people are," and so forth. It'll be a bit easier if you shut your mind off to undisputed facts like the technological, creational, and intellectual superiority of the nazis. Thanks in advance.

By the way, I don't support the graphic in its whole in any way, it was an obvious stab at shock-value, or quite possibly an attempt to get JediMaster banned from GFY or booted from the relevant sponsor.

Are you saying what I think you are saying?
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Are you saying what I think you are saying?
I'm just interested in facts, that's all. You can say a lot of things about nazis, but you can't automatically label them as dumb brutes just because the current political winds aren't favoring them.

By the way, the American government was quick to employ the nazi scientists when WWII ended. Do you think that was an act of charity?
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If you could explain to us the reasoning behind asserting that nazism and fascism have more to do with ignorance (lack of knowledge) than any other popular or unpopular political and/or ideological platform, that would be swell. For example, you can show us obvious knowledge the nazis and fascists missed out on because they were, as you assert, ignorant. "They were ignorant because they didn't know like I do what innocent and kind little creatures Jewish people are," and so forth. It'll be a bit easier if you shut your mind off to undisputed facts like the technological, creational, and intellectual superiority of the nazis. Thanks in advance.

By the way, I don't support the graphic in its whole in any way, it was an obvious stab at shock-value, or quite possibly an attempt to get JediMaster banned from GFY or booted from the relevant sponsor.

I still think you need serious help in history knowledge. Maybe some visiting of Auschwitz would help.
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I still think you need serious help in history knowledge. Maybe some visiting of Auschwitz would help.
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We are talking about an unfounded assertion of ignorance, not irrelevant emotional dogmas.
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I'm just interested in facts, that's all. You can say a lot of things about nazis, but you can't automatically label them as dumb brutes just because the current political winds aren't favoring them.

By the way, the American government was quick to employ the nazi scientists when WWII ended. Do you think that was an act of charity?
and this is even more bullshit
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If you could explain to us the reasoning behind asserting that nazism and fascism have more to do with ignorance (lack of knowledge) than any other popular or unpopular political and/or ideological platform, that would be swell. For example, you can show us obvious knowledge the nazis and fascists missed out on because they were, as you assert, ignorant. "They were ignorant because they didn't know like I do what innocent and kind little creatures Jewish people are," and so forth. It'll be a bit easier if you shut your mind off to undisputed facts like the technological, creational, and intellectual superiority of the nazis. Thanks in advance.

By the way, I don't support the graphic in its whole in any way, it was an obvious stab at shock-value, or quite possibly an attempt to get JediMaster banned from GFY or booted from the relevant sponsor.
That would be a discussion that would take a great deal of time, and accomplish very little. If I have somehow offended your sensibilities by suggesting that is ignorant to assert that one entire "race" (race being a silly socio-cultural construct to begin with) is superior to another entire "race", then I apologize.

As far as the "undisputed" intellectual superiority of the Nazis goes, I think you might find some military historians and military strategists that would dispute that point quite vigorously.

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As far as the "undisputed" intellectual superiority of the Nazis goes, I think you might find some military historians and military strategists that would dispute that point quite vigorously.

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Go ahead and enlighten us, friend! The nazis outshined any other group of human beings when it came to developing new technologies and concepts, and don't be afraid, this doesn't conflict with the officially dictated opinion of the nazis as evil. Moral consciousness, however you may define it (or have it defined for you, as the case may be), doesn't have much anything to do with intellectual ability.
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and this is even more bullshit
Explain why, then. Because you are a Jew and you don't like to actually discuss the topic? How marvellous.
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Go ahead and enlighten us, friend! The nazis outshined any other group of human beings when it came to developing new technologies and concepts, and don't be afraid, this doesn't conflict with the officially dictated opinion of the nazis as evil. Moral consciousness, however you may define it (or have it defined for you, as the case may be), doesn't have much anything to do with intellectual ability.
hmm ill concede that the nazis had some superior technology 60 years ago. They didn't use it very wisely though. I don't see you trying to distance the nazis of today from the nazis of the past. Most of your argument still points towards what the nazis were doing 60 years ago.

So all in all....id just like to ask.

what is the point that you are so eloquently trying to make?
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Go ahead and enlighten us, friend! The nazis outshined any other group of human beings when it came to developing new technologies and concepts, and don't be afraid, this doesn't conflict with the officially dictated opinion of the nazis as evil. Moral consciousness, however you may define it (or have it defined for you, as the case may be), doesn't have much anything to do with intellectual ability.
bullshit, most of them arranged with the system because they had no other chance. most of them recognized too late that they were abused by the political system. 90% of the nazi scum were just normal people, also influenced by the polititcal and economical system. most of them were too dumb to understand what was going on. only 10% of the nazi leaders were intelligent enough to influence the population in a way that they were believing to do the right thing. and all this at a time when moral integrity and human rights did not play the role as they do today.

but I'm sure you know all this in all your wisdom about the history of my country.




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Explain why, then. Because you are a Jew and you don't like to actually discuss the topic? How marvellous.
actually i would make a very good arier. no, i'm not a jew. but what role does it play?

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Ban him I say.
For making the point that lack of knowledge and moral/political differences are two entirely different things? Wow. Who are intellectually inferior ignoramuses now, I ask.
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Go ahead and enlighten us, friend! The nazis outshined any other group of human beings when it came to developing new technologies and concepts, and don't be afraid, this doesn't conflict with the officially dictated opinion of the nazis as evil. Moral consciousness, however you may define it (or have it defined for you, as the case may be), doesn't have much anything to do with intellectual ability.
When it comes to measuring intellectual ability, I think it is much more appropriate to do so on an individual basis; there were some very bright people among the Nazis, to be certain, but the underlying Nazi philosophy itself doesn't really embody or represent a very sophisticated or well-informed world view, in my opinion.

As I said previously, this is a discussion that would take a great deal of time, and accomplish little (or nothing). I don't disagree that moral conciousness has little to do with intellectual ability, I just don't concur that the Nazis, taken as a whole, "outshined any other group of human beings" in the fields that you keep citing.

On that point, I think perhaps we just need to agree to disagree.

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Old 07-02-2004, 11:12 AM   #50
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bullshit, most of them arranged with the system because they had no other chance. most of them recognized too late that they were abused by the political system. 90% of the nazi scum were just normal people, also influenced by the polititcal and economical system. most of them were too dumb to understand what was going on. only 10% of the nazi leaders were intelligent enough to influence the population in a way that they were believing to do the right thing. and all this at a time when moral integrity and human rights did not play the role as they do today.

but I'm sure you know all this in all your wisdom about the history of my country.






actually i would make a very good arier. no, i'm not a jew. but what role does it play?
That is all speculation and opinion. The technological legacy of the nazis speak of an entirely different reality.
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