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Tanker · 03-23-2001, 09:37 PM

I am looking for the best email collection sponser any suggestions pros and cons

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Rose · 03-23-2001, 09:43 PM

For me it's gammacash http://cgi.gammae.com/go.cgi?68675+gammacash

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rhizome · 03-23-2001, 09:53 PM

I think teen-mail is by far and away the best at $1/e-mail plus CE is making adjustments so you also get paid for upsales.

stangster · 03-24-2001, 03:53 AM

Go with teen-mail Tank. Has the highest confirmed/unique conversion of the 4 programs I use. Maxcash has one but it's not per email, but thru the sales you get from the spam..I mean..opt-in.

And to top it all of, you get a buck per confirmation. A win-win.

Techie Media · 03-24-2001, 12:02 PM

Would you all like to see an email program that paid you per unique click???

Like a blind click program, and if the surfer gives his email, he would recieve a free pass to a decent paysite?

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Susan · 03-24-2001, 12:52 PM

Can someone tell me what happens after a visitor enters their E-mail address. Do they get bombed with junk every day. With all the talk about spam on the net its hard to imagine anyone using these, do you get good results ?

I have never looked at this mail stuff but often thought about setting up a mail program for pay site visitors.

WOW, that teen-mail is a nice looking site !

[This message has been edited by Susan (edited 03-24-2001).]

rhizome · 03-24-2001, 01:27 PM

Lightning, that sounds like a join4free type program except you pay per unique click.

Techie Media · 03-24-2001, 07:35 PM

Rhizome, yes thats exactly right. Do you think it would be something webmasters would be interested in. Also the progran would not become just another program that every surfer has seen before. The entire affiliate progran would be kept relatively small. We were thinking by applicastion and/or invitation only?? Any and all thoughts would be appreciated.

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rhizome · 03-24-2001, 08:11 PM

Lightning, this is way I see the whole blind link game. The ONLY time it is beneficial to the webmaster to get paid for blind links is if the webmaster can not convert this traffic into sign-ups. Now who wants traffic that can not convert be converted by the average webmaster? Only those people that do know how to convert this traffic. The only blind link programs left that do not require you to maintain conversions are not programs like topcash where the traffic is sent to the same front end that sign-up traffic is sent to. Rather, they are programs that constantly change their pages around in order to somehow find a way to profit off the shit traffic being sent them.

Now, if what you propose is basically a join4free site type site, then you're going to have to figure an amount to pay per click so that it is still profitable to you. In other words, if you figure you make 4 cents average off of each visitor that visits your front end, then you can pay out let's say 3 cents/click. So I would have to send you about 33 visitors to make a buck. But if this traffic converts at 1:33, then what's the difference between getting paid 3 cents/click and $1/join. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you can come up with a site that pays out more than any other 4free program, then it makes no difference whether I receive this by a per click basis or a per join basis. And if you can't design a program that has a higher return per visitor than another 4free program, then I can't see any way that I could make more money with your program than I would with the other 4free program assuming that you both give the same cut of profits to the webmaster.

But there a lot of people out there who do send quality traffic to blind programs and you could supplement the poor converting accounts with these but in the end wverything would till probably balance out since fraud is more rampant in click programs.

To me, a blind link program just makes no sense if the traffic is being sent to a single site. It all works out the same in the end. If you were going to broker this traffic though and you have secret formulas to making money off of crap traffic that the average webmaster does not know, then I could see it being unique and serving some purpose.

I'd be interested though in knowing why you feel a blind program could in the end be more beneficial financially to webmasters than just paying per e-mail address.

Techie Media · 03-24-2001, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by rhizome:

I'd be interested though in knowing why you feel a blind program could in the end be more beneficial financially to webmasters than just paying per e-mail address.

Thanks for this detailed response. I,m just trying to collect some opinions. I'm not sure if in fact it is better then a per email or not. I was just looking for some opinions. I really appriciate your time and your response. Thanks so much

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Tanker · 03-26-2001, 06:10 PM

thanks for the info

HQ · 03-26-2001, 06:34 PM

stangster, you've testing 4 programs and teen-mail came out on top? was ezgreen one of those you tested?

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X-Web · 03-26-2001, 07:41 PM

dont use ez green (back then i ran a free site and made about 600 bux a month from ez green and never got paid.. (i wasnt cheating or anything.. emailed them tons and they never replied me.. pissed me off.. ill say.. go for cybererotica.com or cencash.com and i remember back then about gammacash i heard they send some of the traffic from people who signed up email program to thier site.. so thats kinda shitty..
i have heard some people got paid by ez green.. but i guess im not lucky one..
good luck

MrBrian · 03-26-2001, 07:51 PM

no offense to anyone, but who gives a shit about ratios? they could be shaving 95%. i bet you'd get damn nice ratios then. lol

HQ · 03-26-2001, 09:29 PM

X-Web, thanks for the heads up. i knew ezgreen pulled some shit like that a while back, but i thought they paid everyone.

the next question, is which one is the most surfer friendly? if one of them has multiple pop-ups and the other doesn't, the choice will be obvious. ez green appears to be very surfer friendly from what i see. are they all like that?

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ace0r · 03-26-2001, 11:00 PM

i dont know why everyones shitting on ezgreen.. theyve been paying me for 2 years now, never a problem

HQ · 03-26-2001, 11:03 PM

ace0r, a few of my buddies didn't get paid. and the sent out an email saying that if you continue to use our program and don't bad mouth us then we might pay you back in small monthly installments over the next year. not sure if that's 100% accurate, but it was something very similar.

i think they posted the email somewhere on GFY... it was quite bad.

but i know that they actually DID pay back some of the webmasters after a few months.

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Susan · 03-27-2001, 07:30 AM

Well as I got no reply to my simple question :-

Signed up for teen-mail and got a friend to give it a test. He got a very nice pink html page returned asking to confirm the request by clicking a link. It all looks really nice so far and I have placed it on some gallery pages.

03-23-2001, 09:37 PM	#1
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	Whats the best Email collection Sponser I am looking for the best email collection sponser any suggestions pros and cons Tanker

03-23-2001, 09:43 PM	#2
Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ON,Canada Posts: 1,456	For me it's gammacash http://cgi.gammae.com/go.cgi?68675+gammacash ------------------ Submit your free sites for free traffic

03-23-2001, 09:53 PM	#3
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	I think teen-mail is by far and away the best at $1/e-mail plus CE is making adjustments so you also get paid for upsales.

03-24-2001, 03:53 AM	#4
stangster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,126	Go with teen-mail Tank. Has the highest confirmed/unique conversion of the 4 programs I use. Maxcash has one but it's not per email, but thru the sales you get from the spam..I mean..opt-in. And to top it all of, you get a buck per confirmation. A win-win.

03-24-2001, 12:02 PM	#5
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Would you all like to see an email program that paid you per unique click??? Like a blind click program, and if the surfer gives his email, he would recieve a free pass to a decent paysite? ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting [This message has been edited by Lightning (edited 03-24-2001).]

03-24-2001, 12:52 PM	#6
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Can someone tell me what happens after a visitor enters their E-mail address. Do they get bombed with junk every day. With all the talk about spam on the net its hard to imagine anyone using these, do you get good results ? I have never looked at this mail stuff but often thought about setting up a mail program for pay site visitors. WOW, that teen-mail is a nice looking site ! [This message has been edited by Susan (edited 03-24-2001).]

03-24-2001, 01:27 PM	#7
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	Lightning, that sounds like a join4free type program except you pay per unique click.

03-24-2001, 07:35 PM	#8
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Rhizome, yes thats exactly right. Do you think it would be something webmasters would be interested in. Also the progran would not become just another program that every surfer has seen before. The entire affiliate progran would be kept relatively small. We were thinking by applicastion and/or invitation only?? Any and all thoughts would be appreciated. ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting

03-24-2001, 08:11 PM	#9
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	Lightning, this is way I see the whole blind link game. The ONLY time it is beneficial to the webmaster to get paid for blind links is if the webmaster can not convert this traffic into sign-ups. Now who wants traffic that can not convert be converted by the average webmaster? Only those people that do know how to convert this traffic. The only blind link programs left that do not require you to maintain conversions are not programs like topcash where the traffic is sent to the same front end that sign-up traffic is sent to. Rather, they are programs that constantly change their pages around in order to somehow find a way to profit off the shit traffic being sent them. Now, if what you propose is basically a join4free site type site, then you're going to have to figure an amount to pay per click so that it is still profitable to you. In other words, if you figure you make 4 cents average off of each visitor that visits your front end, then you can pay out let's say 3 cents/click. So I would have to send you about 33 visitors to make a buck. But if this traffic converts at 1:33, then what's the difference between getting paid 3 cents/click and $1/join. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you can come up with a site that pays out more than any other 4free program, then it makes no difference whether I receive this by a per click basis or a per join basis. And if you can't design a program that has a higher return per visitor than another 4free program, then I can't see any way that I could make more money with your program than I would with the other 4free program assuming that you both give the same cut of profits to the webmaster. But there a lot of people out there who do send quality traffic to blind programs and you could supplement the poor converting accounts with these but in the end wverything would till probably balance out since fraud is more rampant in click programs. To me, a blind link program just makes no sense if the traffic is being sent to a single site. It all works out the same in the end. If you were going to broker this traffic though and you have secret formulas to making money off of crap traffic that the average webmaster does not know, then I could see it being unique and serving some purpose. I'd be interested though in knowing why you feel a blind program could in the end be more beneficial financially to webmasters than just paying per e-mail address.

03-26-2001, 06:10 PM	#11
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	thanks for the info

03-26-2001, 06:34 PM	#12
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	stangster, you've testing 4 programs and teen-mail came out on top? was ezgreen one of those you tested? ------------------ HQ HQ's Daily Nude http://www.hqdailynude.com/ Traffic Trade? http://www.hqdailynude.com/webmasters.html

03-26-2001, 07:41 PM	#13
X-Web Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Langley, BC, Canada Posts: 357	dont use ez green (back then i ran a free site and made about 600 bux a month from ez green and never got paid.. (i wasnt cheating or anything.. emailed them tons and they never replied me.. pissed me off.. ill say.. go for cybererotica.com or cencash.com and i remember back then about gammacash i heard they send some of the traffic from people who signed up email program to thier site.. so thats kinda shitty.. i have heard some people got paid by ez green.. but i guess im not lucky one.. good luck

03-26-2001, 07:51 PM	#14
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	no offense to anyone, but who gives a shit about ratios? they could be shaving 95%. i bet you'd get damn nice ratios then. lol

03-26-2001, 09:29 PM	#15
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	X-Web, thanks for the heads up. i knew ezgreen pulled some shit like that a while back, but i thought they paid everyone. the next question, is which one is the most surfer friendly? if one of them has multiple pop-ups and the other doesn't, the choice will be obvious. ez green appears to be very surfer friendly from what i see. are they all like that? ------------------ HQ HQ's Daily Nude http://www.hqdailynude.com/ Traffic Trade? http://www.hqdailynude.com/webmasters.html

03-26-2001, 11:00 PM	#16
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	i dont know why everyones shitting on ezgreen.. theyve been paying me for 2 years now, never a problem

03-26-2001, 11:03 PM	#17
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	ace0r, a few of my buddies didn't get paid. and the sent out an email saying that if you continue to use our program and don't bad mouth us then we might pay you back in small monthly installments over the next year. not sure if that's 100% accurate, but it was something very similar. i think they posted the email somewhere on GFY... it was quite bad. but i know that they actually DID pay back some of the webmasters after a few months. ------------------ HQ HQ's Daily Nude http://www.hqdailynude.com/ Traffic Trade? http://www.hqdailynude.com/webmasters.html

03-27-2001, 07:30 AM	#18
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Well as I got no reply to my simple question :- Signed up for teen-mail and got a friend to give it a test. He got a very nice pink html page returned asking to confirm the request by clicking a link. It all looks really nice so far and I have placed it on some gallery pages.